UK - in or out of the EU? Travel Issues?

[cove]

Re: UK - in or out of the EU?

Will we get another shot at buying the British currency with a 60 something in it? From an Australian point of view that would work a treat for us. Currently it is in that 54 to 55 range and their central bank is defending.
I saw many were trying to get set last week but that may be a little early or perhaps a brilliant move.
Merkel said take your time with getting out of the EU.

 

[RooFlyer]

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Will we get another shot at buying the British currency with a 60 something in it? From an Australian point of view that would work a treat for us. Currently it is in that 54 to 55 range and their central bank is defending.
I saw many were trying to get set last week but that may be a little early or perhaps a brilliant move.
Merkel said take your time with getting out of the EU.

Probably alas no, re the currency.

Merkel has been the most dignified EU leader post the result. Of course you could never say that about the French (from behind a pay wall in The Australian):

Britain and the European Union have not even begun divorce talks yet but were already bickering last night as the political and economic shock waves from the British vote to leave the bloc reverberated around the world.

Senior EU politicians, rattled by a result that few saw coming, told Britain on Saturday to hurry up and trigger the formal exit process — something the UK insists won’t happen for several months.

“There is a certain urgency … so that we don’t have a period of uncertainty, with financial consequences, political consequences,” French Foreign Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault said at a meeting in Berlin of the EU’s six founding nations.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel struck a less urgent tone, saying it “shouldn’t take forever” for Britain to deliver its formal notification of leaving “but I would not fight over a short period of time”.

“There is no need to be particularly nasty in any way in the negotiations. They must be conducted properly,” Ms Merkel said at a news conference in Potsdam, outside Berlin.

Mr Ayrault said it was urgent Prime Minister David Cameron, who on Friday said he would resign by October, clear the way for new leadership to manage the transition out of the union.

“A new prime minister must be designated, that will take a few days,” he told reporters at the crisis talks after Britain’s shock referendum to quit the EU.

Mr Cameron had said his successor should be the one to start the process of withdrawing from the bloc.

 

[Mal]

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Brexit: A Very British Revolution - WSJ

Very good article. One paragraph of note:

Even the debate about immigration had an internationalist flavor to it. Any member of any EU state has had the right to live and work in Britain; any American, Indian or Australian needs to apply through a painstaking process. Mr. Cameron’s goal is to bring net immigration to below 100,000 a year (it was a little over three times that at last count). So the more who arrive from the EU, the more we need to crack down on those from outside the EU. The U.K. government now requires any non-European who wants to settle here to earn an annual salary of at least £35,000 (or about $52,000)—so we would deport, say, a young American flutist but couldn’t exclude a Bulgarian convict who could claim (under EU human-rights rules) that he has family ties in the U.K.

A lot of my vote was determined by how my fellow Australians are treated by the UK now that they can't cap EU immigration...

 

[cove]

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Mal if the pound gets pounded expect more Aussie tourists to come and help save the British economy. We can help a pound or two at a time.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

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Mal if the pound gets pounded expect more Aussie tourists to come and help save the British economy. We can help a pound or two at a time.

Aussie tourists. American tourists love the UK - I can't see that changing.

 

[marki]

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Still can't decide if this is a good thing for us Aussies.

Hey welcome to AFF dorkhun. The question will answer itself overtime for sure. But a cheaper GBP must be better for us. I remember staying at the Marriott near The eye and paying 3 bucks for a pound. Breakfast was 100 AUD

 

[pauly7]

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On the bright side, there'll be plenty of work for lawyers to sort it all out

Well yes, and an opportunity perhaps for the massive surplus of Aussie lawyers at the moment struggling to find work here - ship them over to the old mothership. Don't mind if they don't come back either

 

[Foreigner]

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Aussie tourists. American tourists love the UK - I can't see that changing.

Air fares from the US to Europe generally are being slashed of recent times...Whereas it was around usd1,800 a year ago, now c. usd500 RT.

If travel from UK slows to Australia there may be specials from here to the UK and beyond in Europe, maybe.

 

[DaveB]

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Sitting on the sidelines with no emotional connection other than being a regular tourist, have to say the current fear and panic seems to have largely arisen due to the negative 'avoid armegeddon' of the stay campaign and the equally disturbing racist connotations of the minority far right which the media allowed far too much of the Brexit stage.

Hopefully, the individual political figures involved who currently have their nose out of joint either become more rational or move on falling on their swords.

I feel the lasting effects on the UK will be confined to London's finance sector going through a mini recession and England possibly sooner rather than later having to stop giving each Scot between 2-3000 pounds annual subsidy depending on how you allow for North Sea oil.

I would be extremely surprised if for the UK overall, this ended up being just another Y2K millenium bug beatup. The EU and Swiss relationship over the past 50 or so years seems a good blueprint from which to work on. The Swiss over many years have had to deal with the consequences of referendum results, particularly in regard to being a part of the Schengen area. The Swiss and Norway also have free trade agreements in place since 1973 so would be amazed if british industry missed a blip with this move and quickly becomes a thing of the past.

The EU's structural problems have been sorely exposed since the 2008 global recession and their inability to deal with the refugee crisis, not just recently from the middle east but the ongoing issues associated with their former African colonies. It seems pretty clear to me that the EU has been a slow sinking ship and Brexit is like grabbing a life boat whilst it is available. Unfortunately, the size of the EU makes it impossible to fix it's structural flaws though would not be surprised if they at least use Brexit as a catalyst to at least try.

 

[Foreigner]

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Well yes, and an opportunity perhaps for the massive surplus of Aussie lawyers at the moment struggling to find work here - ship them over to the old mothership. Don't mind if they don't come back either

Those lawyers who find it tough to find positions in the profession are recent graduates mostly. Lawyers with some years of PQE are set and I don't think struggle for jobs. There are exceptions of course.

 

[marki]

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Sitting on the sidelines with no emotional connection other than being a regular tourist, have to say the current fear and panic seems to have largely arisen due to the negative 'avoid armegeddon' of the stay campaign and the equally disturbing racist connotations of the minority far right which the media allowed far too much of the Brexit stage.

Hopefully, the individual political figures involved who currently have their nose out of joint either become more rational or move on falling on their swords.

I feel the lasting effects on the UK will be confined to London's finance sector going through a mini recession and England possibly sooner rather than later having to stop giving each Scot between 2-3000 pounds annual subsidy depending on how you allow for North Sea oil.

I would be extremely surprised if for the UK overall, this ended up being just another Y2K millenium bug beatup. The EU and Swiss relationship over the past 50 or so years seems a good blueprint from which to work on. The Swiss over many years have had to deal with the consequences of referendum results, particularly in regard to being a part of the Schengen area. The Swiss and Norway also have free trade agreements in place since 1973 so would be amazed if british industry missed a blip with this move and in the past.once having a far closer relationship with the EU that once included bilateral agreements in place and .

The EU's structural problems have been sorely exposed since the 2008 global recession and their inability to deal with the refugee crisis, not just recently from the middle east but the ongoing issues associated with their former African colonies. It seems pretty clear to me that the EU has been a slow sinking ship and Brexit is like grabbing a life boat whilst it is available. Unfortunately, the size of the EU makes it impossible to fix it's structural flaws those would not be surprised if they at least used Brexit as a catalyst to at least try.

Good balanced view I like the structural flaws bit.

 

[TonyHancock]

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My fascination with the various politicians speaking out continues, this time it is David Lammy, MP for Tottenham who has caught my attention. He has called for parliament to ignore the vote and....

Our sovereign Parliament needs to now vote on whether we should exit The EU"

This is a highly educated MP.

I do wonder if he would be comfortable with "Our sovereign Parliament" voting on whether he should remain as an MP, it is not like there is any need to consider the voting public is it?

 

[marki]

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My fascination with the various politicians speaking out continues, this time it is David Lammy, MP for Tottenham who has caught my attention. He has called for parliament to ignore the vote and....



This is a highly educated MP.

I do wonder if he would be comfortable with "Our sovereign Parliament" voting on whether he should remain as an MP, it is not like there is any need to consider the voting public is it?

Education don't go hand in hand with democracy ( voting public) He must be hard wired to the EU way of thinking or been watching the the Russian way of doing things.

I could say more but won't for brevity sake's

 

[drron]

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Google and EU wasn't the only thing going viral after Brexit.It turns out brexit was always in the script-
Brexit vote result makes Yes, Minister EU video go viral

 

[Boca68]

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Just reading this article Can Brexit be overturned? What Brits are asking each other

I didn't know that it is not a legally binding vote.

And the reasons for a second poll seem valid, but nigh on impossible to follow through on due to the potential upheavals.

Also read somewhere this morning, apologies now I cannot find it, that another petition is up asking for Sadiq Khan to declare London City an independant state and apply for EU membership....

 

[love_the_life]

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A cousin in the UK posted this on her FB page:

 

[MEL_Traveller]

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And the reasons for a second poll seem valid, but nigh on impossible to follow through on due to the potential upheavals.

Where does it stop? best out of three?

 

[UP4014]

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Just reading this article Can Brexit be overturned? What Brits are asking each other

I didn't know that it is not a legally binding vote.

And the reasons for a second poll seem valid, but nigh on impossible to follow through on due to the potential upheavals.

Also read somewhere this morning, apologies now I cannot find it, that another petition is up asking for Sadiq Khan to declare London City an independant state and apply for EU membership....

What didn't like the outcome so will keep having a vote until we do.

 

[RooFlyer]

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From here:

 

[Simo]

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The entire thing seems like a lot of lose ends to be tidied up before it can actually be official...