Upcoming Qantas Frequent Flyer Changes

[Fantic125]

Same for me last year (said September 2011 even though it was mid 2010).

However this year I've already requalifed but it still says Sep 2011..??

O/T but in response; this is mine;


Back on topic, after some consideration of the way the current round of changes affect me as a newly minted WP who travels mainly international in disc Y;

Even though the company I work for has a cheapest fare policy, quite often our travel organiser will obtain a couple of alternative quotes from OW and/or *A, usually due to different departure/arrival times. This also can provide me with some degree of flexibility over which flights I choose.

I only have 35 SC's required to achieve my next loyalty bonus with QF, so providing my next flights (probably either to Jakarta or Mumbai) offer up a QF flight, I will most probably chose QF to obtain the loyalty bonus.

Once that is obtained, I will wait for QF to announce the next round of 'enhancements' and in the meantime mainly steer toward *A flights to maintain my *G status (Asiana Diamond) which is due for review in Feb 2013.

Depending on what is next announced by QF will determine whether I will try and retain WP next qualifying year, or retain SG then apportion my miles to either AA or *A.

That's my feedback on the recent changes.

 

[connieguy]

Just worked out by not getting the 25% points increase for a WP flying -Y and Y and the Loyalty bonus cap loss will reduce my yearly points earn by almost 200,000 points, based on gaining 4,000 QF SCs this year.

Ouch. That hurts.

My pain / loss will however apparently fund the extra 25% QF points that are going to say 8 Golds or to say 16 Silvers. That makes me feel so much better knowing QF has a socialized points distribution system in place to help them in the battle with DJ but at my expense. Anyway is it nice to know who apparently is funding the additional points that are being given away to the Golds and Silvers.

Do I think they may say thanks Mate or buy me a drink? Not likely. So far all the vocal Golds here say is, Cop it sweet mate. Take one for the team (their team of ONE of course).

 

[zeiron]

Just worked out by not getting the 25% points increase for a WP flying -Y and Y and the Loyalty bonus cap loss will reduce my yearly points earn by almost 200,000 points, based on gaining 4,000 QF SCs this year.

Ouch. That hurts.

My pain / loss will however apparently fund the extra 25% QF points that are going to say 8 Golds or to say 16 Silvers. That makes me feel so much better knowing QF has a socialized points distribution system in place to help them in the battle with DJ but at my expense. Anyway is it nice to know who apparently is funding the additional points that are being given away to the Golds and Silvers.

Do I think they may say thanks Mate or buy me a drink? Not likely. So far all the vocal Golds here say is, Cop it sweet mate. Take one for the team (their team of ONE of course).

WHY do you do this to yourself??

Qantas have decided (quite illogically i might add) that WP will not get a 25% increase, therefore your 200,000 point "loss" is merely theoretical. How and why this "hurts" you, I cannot fathom.
You have no loss of points, you were simply not granted them (in QF's somewhat diminished wisdom). By default, your theoretical "loss" will not fund any PS or SG as you have NO LOSS! You are not funding "anything" and your assumption that you are somehow being robbed to fund the lowly minions beneath you is simply WRONG!
What is it about this that you find so difficult to comprehend??
"Your" points are not being given away to anyone. PS and SG earn their points in accordance with the QF FF T&C's as do you and seeing as though you were not granted the additional 25%, YOU WILL NOT EARN IT!!!!!!
Why you think I or any other SG or PS owes you a thing is beyond me.
I cannot understand how a mature professional adult can be of such unsound mind over what amounts to such a trivial matter in the greater scheme of things. Your attitude and behaviour toward these changes is illogically puerile at best and simply asinine at worst! You really ought to be ashamed of yourself!

MODERATORS PLEASE PUT AN END TO THIS SHAMEFUL CONDUCT!!!
(and is there a way to block this particular post as my tolerance of these selfish WP's has been exhausted)

 

[futaris]

Just worked out by not getting the 25% points increase for a WP flying -Y and Y and the Loyalty bonus cap loss will reduce my yearly points earn by almost 200,000 points, based on gaining 4,000 QF SCs this year.

Why do you think WP deserves a 25% increase in points? Just because the SG and PS got the increase, doesn't mean that the WP members should get an increase.

Try complaining to QANTAS rather than repeating the same argument here...

Or should the NBs also get a 25% increase?

 

[OverrideServlet]

Uggh. Everyone gets it. WPs are unhappy (yes that includes me).

Can we talk about something meaningful now?

Like...

What type of improvements to upgrades do you think Red Roo is referring to. What would you like to see?

 

[TonyHancock]

Oh dear!

Moving on I'm still interested to here the view from WP's on any potential changes to upgrades.

A positive change - say three international upgrades per membership year confirmed at booking, would certainly make me happy.

 

[YQY]

O/T but in response; this is mine;
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OT - I have the same assessment date as yours - but you have been assessed - i don't feel special

 

[TonyHancock]

OT - I have the same assesment date as yours - but you have been assesed - i don't feel special

Also off topic, but I feel even less special!




What happened to my additional platinum privileges.

:shock::-|

 

[connieguy]

I cannot understand how a mature professional adult can be of such unsound mind over what amounts to such a trivial matter in the greater scheme of things.

200,000 points (probably twice what you as a Gold will earn per year) is not a trivial matter nor is where QF diverted those points from. Those points will however fund the 25% additional points bonus that say 8 Golds will get for doing nothing more than spending a hell of a lot less on tickets and flying a hell of a lot less in airline seats that I will do in earning 4,000 SCs.

As for the Greater Scheme of things, I don't give a rats A*S. I'm not a socialists nor will I indirectly fund / assist QF in their battle with DJ. It is MY money and I will spend it with the carrier that I believe has the best benefit scheme to match my flying style and budget.

Currently that is not QF.

 

[11sjw]

First post in this thread!!!!!

The idea of confirmed upgrades would be a big winner for Qantas in it's dealings with WP's. Not sure how many would work but the 2-5 a year mark (mixture of Intl and Domestic) would be a big incentive to go 2 x SG.

Personally whilst my family are holed up in Honolulu next Aug I'll, most likely, Yupp run across the states and back to facilitate WP. If anything else it will produce 35 months of free Q Club membership (anniversary is 31 July).

serfty, markis and co I'll be hounding you guys for tips come booking time!!! :mrgreen::mrgreen:

 

[Archphoto]

Regarding the upgrades RedRoo mentioned, perhaps one free one per quarter would be a nice touch for WP?

And maybe, just maybe, an upgrade on a points request - (3 years as a WP and not one upgrade request on points granted.)

 

[TonyHancock]

Hrm, I'm not that optimistic.

Maybe they just plan on having confirmed points upgrades at time of request for WPs (i.e. no lottery)?

I'm actually less optimistic than you! I just wasn't very clear!!! (No change there!)

I meant three points upgrade requests per year at the time of booking. I can't see QF giving unlimited confirmed points upgrades. (To be honest I'm not sure it would make sense for them commercially, I could see a drop in J bookings if they did that.)

If I could have three confirmed points upgrades per year I would be pretty happy. (I should clarify - At time of booking)

 

[OverrideServlet]

I meant three points upgrade requests per year at the time of booking.

Ahh, I just deleted my post because I realised I misunderstood you.

Carry on.

 

[Leumas]

I think people that work for QFF, QF, Carlsons and even DJ should own up and provide the transparency members deserve.

Just saying.

 

[zeiron]

200,000 points (probably twice what you as a Gold will earn per year) is not a trivial matter nor is where QF diverted those points from. Those points will however fund the 25% additional points bonus that say 8 Golds will get for doing nothing more than spending a hell of a lot less on tickets and flying a hell of a lot less in airline seats that I will do in earning 4,000 SCs.

As for the Greater Scheme of things, I don't give a rats A*S. I'm not a socialists nor will I indirectly fund / assist QF in their battle with DJ. It is MY money and I will spend it with the carrier that I believe has the best benefit scheme to match my flying style and budget.

Currently that is not QF.

Its only trivial insofar as you CANNOT EARN THEM!! What part of WP's were not granted the 25% increase do you not understand????? We get you are unhappy about this but please for the love of god.... just quit it!

As for spending your money, you are free to spend it wherever you choose. it is quite evident you are not a socialist, as you portray yourself to be somewhat elitist. QF is not asking you to fund their battle with DJ, they will do that themselves. If enough people are of the same mind as yourself and decide to jump ship, QF may listen and alter things down the rd. if you are impatient and cant wait, so be it.
But in all honesty, if you are arguing over the fact that SG and PS got a 25% increase and you as a WP didnt, and that appears to be the case, then I really really REALLY have nothing further to say.....

 

[OverrideServlet]

We get you are unhappy about this but please for the love of god.... just quit it!

You too. Can we please move on?

 

[connieguy]

What type of improvements to upgrades do you think Red Roo is referring to. What would you like to see?

I expect QF would go for WP1 Enhancements like:

1) WP1s required to earn 3,600 WP1 SCs by sitting in QF metal J or F seats over say a max of 3 years.

2) Retain WP1 with 1,200 WP1 SCs per year once clause 1 achieved.

3) Excess WP1 SCs, over 1,200 WP1 SCs per year, to go into a WP1 SC reserve pool that can be called down if the WP1 SCs earn falls short in any year.

4) Partner WP1 included.

5) CL access.

6) Special dinners, visits, events, etc to enhance WP1 networking.

7) Air magazine.

8) Curb side to Lounge to flight to lounge to curb WP1 personal assistant for both Domestic and International flights.

9) Arrivals Lounge access where possible including CL, F, J and QP lounges.

10) Personal 24/7 one call and no button pushing WP1 desk access.

11) Dedicated WP1 phone and airport assistant. One person. One voice. One responsibility for a Platinum ONE member.

 

[TonyHancock]

Ahh, I just deleted my post because I realised I misunderstood you.

Carry on.

Removal of the points upgrade lottery, if only for a limited number of times, would be a good move I think.

 

[LiamR]

As I said earlier.

I am a WP. I didn't get many new things yet out of these latest round of enhancements. Do I care? No.

Do I care that Gold/Silver got something that I didn't? No.

QF's status bonus is very generous as it is. I am not the type of person that sits there nagging that everybody else got something, and I didn't.

There is enough differences for me, between Gold and Platinum to make flying the extra miles worth it.

Can we maybe move on now?

 

[zeiron]

what about
1. reintroducing the old upgrade credits?
2. confirming upgrades as opposed to the current lottery?
3. removing the red e deal upgrade restriction?
4. offering system wide upgrades as per AA?

or heres a thought...

how about just being a little more generous with ODU at the gate on off peak flights when the J cabin is empty. Itd cost them nothing but would go someway to restoring the goodwill that WP's have shown with their loyalty?