US election 2020

[TheRealTMA]

Exactly the same as the left wing equivalent?

No, not at all. Read Q stuff at your peril. It’s well known that they are malware infection sites. But by all means, carry on.

 

[Steady]

No, not at all. Read Q stuff at your peril. It’s well known that they are malware infection sites. But by all means, carry on.

I didn’t realise you were referring to one particular site, I read it as a general opinion. I take your word regarding the Q site, not somewhere I have or would visit.

happy to join everyone else and carry on

My post was another pot kettle comment. In my opinion both extreme sides are as bad as each other

 

[NoName]

In my opinion both extreme sides are as bad as each other

So true. Unfortunately though it’s the extremes that are the ones who get the attention and are painted by the other side as being the normal. I guess the 95% of people who are just regular Joes are not interesting or newsworthy.

 

[dajop]

So true. Unfortunately though it’s the extremes that are the ones who get the attention and are painted by the other side as being the normal. I guess the 95% of people who are just regular Joes are not interesting or newsworthy.

I’ve mentioned before, but it’s the extremes that get people off their backsides and out to vote (either through affinity with their preferred extreme or through complete fear of the picture being painted by the other extreme), unlike Australia where compulsory ballot paper collection drags more extreme elements back towards the centre.

 

[p--and--t]

He shoots himself in the foot everyday, but millions will vote for him

 

[TheRealTMA]

I didn’t realise you were referring to one particular site, I read it as a general opinion. I take your word regarding the Q site, not somewhere I have or would visit.

happy to join everyone else and carry on

My post was another pot kettle comment. In my opinion both extreme sides are as bad as each other

However, Q is not a side but insanity.

 

[p--and--t]

Sad and disturbing at the same time.

 

[Steady]

However, Q is not a side but insanity.

Yes, much safer. But beware of right wing propaganda sites. Apart from being brain malware, they are often filled with computer malware.

By naming it as right wing you are saying it’s a side, I just took your word for it and wish to point out The extremes of both sides are as bad as each other, one is no worse than the other - unless your an extremist

 

[RooFlyer]

He shoots himself in the foot everyday, but millions will vote for him

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I’m not disagreeing with you, but one of those quotes was from Trump directly, the other was a third party report “fitsnews”. Wouldn’t get up in court

 

[TheRealTMA]

By naming it as right wing you are saying it’s a side, I just took your word for it and wish to point out The extremes of both sides are as bad as each other, one is no worse than the other - unless your an extremist

If someone can’t or won’t understand the differences between political opinions and debate and the Q loons, the we should feel for them (the someone, not Q.)

 

[DC3]

Sad and disturbing at the same time ....

... “Do you see a similarity here?” ...

Mentally, probably not much difference at all.

 

[Steady]

If someone can’t or won’t understand the differences between political opinions and debate and the Q loons, the we should feel for them (the someone, not Q.)

Thanks, it’s nice that someone feels for me

I feel for those who think only they and their opinion is right, and anyone who has a different opinion is wrong and a hater - a very cleaver way of Bigots claiming bigotry Pot kettle anyone?

 

[TheRealTMA]

I’m not disagreeing with you, but one of those quotes was from Trump directly, the other was a third party report “fitsnews”. Wouldn’t get up in court

maybe, but this would.

Yes, Donald Trump did call John McCain a ‘loser’

An article in the Atlantic about President Donald Trump’s private remarks about service members and veterans took social

www.politifact.com

 

[TheRealTMA]

Thanks, it’s nice that someone feels for me

I feel for those who think only they and their opinion is right, and anyone who has a different opinion is wrong and a hater - a very cleaver way of Bigots claiming bigotry Pot kettle anyone?

LOL. It’s important to read what people write carefully. I said “someone” and never said I felt for “you” because I find it difficult to believe you would support views of Q loons.

But I stand to be corrected if you feel the need.

 

[CaptJCool]

By naming it as right wing you are saying it’s a side, I just took your word for it and wish to point out The extremes of both sides are as bad as each other, one is no worse than the other - unless your an extremist

I’m with @Steady on this one

No matter ones personal politics, I think the two salient points are this

1. Compulsory voting means extremists can’t “hijack” the outcome. Voluntary voting does.
2. The more different parties the more extremist success dilutes. FPTP though does mean you can win from 24% plus like Macron as did the PM of fhe Netherlands. Europe is used to coalitions and compromise. Australia has baby steps In That direction. USA has just two major parties so is most ripe for extremist forces moving closer and closer to authoritarian tendencies (eg 12 more years)

The major difference between the two political parties was well described by Herb Evatt in his book on John Holman Premier NSW 1910-20.

That is; the Stance on Private property rights and,
tax your opponents not yourselves ergo enable or fetter personal wealth.

Bear in mind, ALP had a policy probably until 1945 with the UN Declaration of Human Rights of which Evatt was Australia’s representative that banned private property ownership....it doesn’t today....

PS the arguments of 100 years ago are really no different to the arguments of today... slow learners .....

 

[drron]

maybe, but this would.

Yes, Donald Trump did call John McCain a ‘loser’

An article in the Atlantic about President Donald Trump’s private remarks about service members and veterans took social

www.politifact.com

Though that is known to be a bit to the left.
John bolton in his book which is not very complimentary of Trump said he didn't say that despite what the recent Allantic article says.

 

[TheRealTMA]

I’m with @Steady on this one

No matter ones personal politics, I think the two salient points are this

1. Compulsory voting means extremists can’t “hijack” the outcome. Voluntary voting does.
2. The more different parties the more extremist success dilutes. FPTP though does mean you can win from 24% plus like Macron as did the PM of fhe Netherlands. Europe is used to coalitions and compromise. Australia has baby steps In That direction. USA has just two major parties so is most ripe for extremist forces moving closer and closer to authoritarian tendencies (eg 12 more years)

The major difference between the two political parties was well described by Herb Evatt in his book on John Holman Premier NSW 1910-20.

That is; the Stance on Private property rights and,
tax your opponents not yourselves ergo enable or fetter personal wealth.

Bear in mind, ALP had a policy probably until 1945 with the UN Declaration of Human Rights of which Evatt was Australia’s representative that banned private property ownership....it doesn’t today....

huh? What’s all that got to do with the OP opining incorrectly on the issue of an AFF member getting infected with malware when unfortunately following a link to a Q site?

 

[tgh]

huh? What’s all that got to do with…..

Your reputation precedes you…..

 

[Hvr]

1. Compulsory voting means extremists can’t “hijack” the outcome. Voluntary voting does.

The other, often ignored benefit of compulsory voting is that the Electoral Commission must ensure that voting is as easy as possible.

Here is Australia pre-poll voting has taken off and influences campaign timings and advertising dollars. However, most importantly it ensures that people can vote in a timely manner to fulfil their legal duty to vote. Also, when counting votes, every effort is made to ensure that a vote is counted rather than rejected.

Come voting day there are sufficient voting booths that waiting 30 minutes is seen as bad planning. Whereas in the US it is common to deprive areas of a voting booth or not have enough so that it can take many hours before you get the chance to vote.

 

[TheRealTMA]

huh? What’s all that got to do with…..

Your reputation precedes you…..

Has everyone on this forum lost the ability to understand context?

And saying Q sites are right-wing and loonies, if that’s where you are coming from, is obvious and far from controversial, more rather universally accepted.