Vinomofo Wine Deals

[AnonymousCoward]

I don't know if anyone noticed what one of the awards was that this (and some of the other French plonks) proudly display? Here it is "Ronan Sayburn, Decanter - Great Wines Under $15". $15 or eu15, they have the gall to serve it up at $50 when it hits our shores.

EUR15 = $21. Add ~50% tax (Customs Duty, GST and WET, which is payable not just on value of the wine, but transport costs as well). Then add the actual transport costs, and some margin for selling imports that probably don't move as quickly as well known local labels. What do you think would be a normal price that would deliver an importer a decent margin?

 

[prozac]

EUR15 = $21. Add ~50% tax (Customs Duty, GST and WET, which is payable not just on value of the wine, but transport costs as well). Then add the actual transport costs, and some margin for selling imports that probably don't move as quickly as well known local labels. What do you think would be a normal price that would deliver an importer a decent margin?

It was just a turn of phrase. The award was for wine under $15.

 

[AnonymousCoward]

It was just a turn of phrase. The award was for wine under $15.

Sure.

But I'll re-ask my question: what do you think an importer should sell it for, given the costs of importing?

 

[prozac]

Sure.

But I'll re-ask my question: what do you think an importer should sell it for, given the costs of importing?

Which was my point...why would you pay $50 for a wine that sells for under $15 elsewhere when there are genuine $50 wines available locally? Can only lead to disappointment.

 

[carwashhair]

Sure.

But I'll re-ask my question: what do you think an importer should sell it for, given the costs of importing?

I'll bite (and bridge the gap between AC & Prozac) - they should charge about what they charge now. Which is exactly where I agree with Prozac on '$50 wines locally'. I used to love imported wines but the past few years I've seen far more value for the same money coming out of Australian wines, given the competition/market currently. After all those taxes/charges that need to be factored in on imported wine it doesn't leave a lot of the purchase price strictly devoted to the 'juice' in the bottle.

Nowadays I'm generally trying imported wines when they are curated by a particular importer at a wine tasting, or when out at a restaurant with a Sommelier to guide. Otherwise the risk in paying for something I'm less exposed to and experienced in just doesn't pay off compared to local wine. I want to get in on these VM imports, but their description usually has a lot of hot air and hype surrounding that make the job of determining value even harder. Easier just to stay away

 

[Daver6]

You can also be sure that the wine that retails for 15 Euros isn't costing the importer 15 Euros to purchase. Probably closer to the half that.

 

[jrod]

Has anyone encountered "up to $500 value" or got some real beauties in the salvation cases?

 

[Dr Ralph]

Has anyone encountered "up to $500 value" or got some real beauties in the salvation cases?

When they first started these (3 years ago?) I think they were great value. Today I think they are fair value. But could be a good way of getting a mixed case rather than being mostly forced to buy a case of 6 or 12 of the same item.

 

[The Chairman]

Some have been better than others but received 5 Yabby Lake Chardonnay in my last one so pretty happy with that!

 

[poochio]

When they first started these (3 years ago?) I think they were great value. Today I think they are fair value. But could be a good way of getting a mixed case rather than being mostly forced to buy a case of 6 or 12 of the same item.

Salvation Case II wasn't a great one. VM claimed to have made some mistakes, which ended up with 'some' people getting dudded with the cheaper bottles. Mine was full of ordinary bottles and a few decent (not great) ones. To their credit, I did get a $50 refund and could keep the whole case

 

[The Warlock]

Some have been better than others but received 5 Yabby Lake Chardonnay in my last one so pretty happy with that!

You've just got to hope that they haven't been transported all over the country in the searing heat as somebody else's returned order.

 

[AnonymousCoward]

Which was my point...why would you pay $50 for a wine that sells for under $15 elsewhere when there are genuine $50 wines available locally? Can only lead to disappointment.

Sure

But what sort of Gamay, or Champagne, or Chianti, or Barolo are you going to get in Australia for $50?

If you're just looking for value-for-money then something local is always going to be impossible to beat. However if you're looking to sample what the world of wine has to offer, you're going to pay a premium to buy overseas stuff in Australia, given our distance from producers, the taxation regime, and the bias of buyers towards local stuff.

 

[prozac]

...However if you're looking to sample what the world of wine has to offer, you're going to pay a premium to buy overseas stuff in Australia, given our distance from producers, the taxation regime, and the bias of buyers towards local stuff.

Spoiled for choice in past life whenever we docked in a French port and replenished the stores with French muck.

 

[Whining&dining]

Spoiled for choice in past life whenever we docked in a French port and replenished the stores with French muck.

Couldn't agree more Prozac, I got the Spanish reds case from VM a while back and although it was relatively cheap at around $10 a bottle (heavily discounted apparently :shock none were particularly good or even all that quaffable, I could definitely buy something really quite toothsome from one of the many online retailers that was grown and made on our own fair shores than buy any of them again. Shame really as my memory of NL is that the average supermarket trip could conjure up a very acceptable Rioja or similar for basically peanuts! Not so sure about the cheaper French reds, I mostly found them thin, mean and mono dimensional....

 

[prozac]

At Albert Heijn supermarkt you can buy Hardy's shiraz for around eu4, Taylors, Penfolds Rawsons Retreat, Lindemans, Rosemount, Jacobs Creek all for around eu6 etc. All quaffers but cheaper than here in Oz.
French muck is as low as eu2-3. Ok for unsophisticated Dutch palates I suppose.

 

[ManikThor]

Any thoughts on what this is?

Black Market McLaren Vale Shiraz
https://vinomofo.com/wines/red-wine/black-market-deal-shiraz-2015-23800

 

[baiden]

Any thoughts on what this is?

Black Market McLaren Vale Shiraz
https://vinomofo.com/wines/red-wine/black-market-deal-shiraz-2015-23800

Think its been on before ?[h=1]Curtis Family 2015 Cavaliere Shiraz[/h]

 

[redbigot]

Any thoughts on what this is?

Black Market McLaren Vale Shiraz
https://vinomofo.com/wines/red-wine/black-market-deal-shiraz-2015-23800

http://winereviewer.com.au/shiraz/2015-curtis-cavaliere-shiraz

 

[Whining&dining]

At Albert Heijn supermarkt you can buy Hardy's shiraz for around eu4, Taylors, Penfolds Rawsons Retreat, Lindemans, Rosemount, Jacobs Creek all for around eu6 etc. All quaffers but cheaper than here in Oz.
French muck is as low as eu2-3. Ok for unsophisticated Dutch palates I suppose.

Yes I remember seeing Tatachilla Partners for very comparable prices and one that particularly amazed me Browns of Padthaway T-trellis that was meaty and so gutsy that my father-n-law wouldn't drink it because "This wine will give me a headache", all the more for me considering the uber-light French and Chilean wine on offer...

And just to keep the thread on track wonder what this WA Cabernet might be? https://vinomofo.com/wines/red-wine/black-market-deal-cabernet-sauvignon-2011?

 

[kevako]

Has anyone tried the Rock Ferry Estate Pinot Noir 2013 that's currently on offer on VM for $24 vs $60 at the winery, which I couldn't find on their website? Are there better alternatives at that price point?