Will you still earn/retain Velocity status beyond 2025?

What impact will the Velocity changes have on your status beyond 2025?


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Of course, that's what it's all about. But how will it actually fly, given that most business flyers use Qantas?
I fly for business and was P1 with Qantas, purely from domestic flying. I had to change because they became too unreliable. I see the Virgin changes favouring the lower price fares. 15 SC's is the current earning on a single leg. Most single legs are > $180. Chuck in family pooling and there will be small gains made.
At the other end, business class flights, especially multi-leg, will earn significantly less. Personally, I think it will reduce my spend with Virgin. Currently, I aim to get to 1800 SC's in an earning year as this allows me companion Platinum (1000 SC's over retention). This means if a Flex fare is $400 and Business is $600, I'll often pay the extra $200 for a more comfortable seat and more than double the SC's. With SC earning based on $'s, I'll take the cheaper fare and try for points upgrade. Basically, I fly enough that I'll get the 800 needed to retain and I won't be forking out an extra $12,000 so that my daughter can keep Platinum.
 
A real shame there was not a 5th option in red - I'd have ticked that -

  • I'll likely upgrade to a higher status tier
  • I'll likely keep the same status tier that I currently have
  • I'll likely downgrade to a lower status tier
  • I don't fly Virgin Australia enough to earn status anyway
  • Far too much change, too fast. A DUMB move - I'll now fly where I choose, going forward.
If Virgin thinks my partner and I will donate 10k a year spend EACH, to sit in an exit row seat that can be bought for $15 cash by anyone with a credit card, they have rocks in their heads!

All this year they've had Qantas totally on the back foot, now they have blown their advantage big time with this badly conceived Brain Fart package, of barely thought through changes. This was the year to change NOTHING major, and attract some disenchanted Qantas flyers. Best of both worlds. :D

They are a slightly upmarket LCC, with no lounges even for folks flying Virgin to the Pacific or Asia etc, (or even in Hobart!) pretending they are the market leader. WRONG.

And they are an LCC planning a market float - and when revenues fall off the cliff during 2025, that will not look too hot for prospective investors, compared to the great 2024 figures. QANTAS announced a DSC offer within days of this Brain Fart, as I predicted, and will be courting Virgin elites aggressively, I'd suggest.

We can now book LITE fares if we prefer, as SC are near meaningless, and pay $15 to sit in an exit row, or can redeem points, which means Virgin gets zero bucks from us.

The 'Forever Gold' conditions are WAY too onerous and were very poorly thought out. FIVE emails to Plat line on this are unanswered (so much for that alleged PLAT benefit contact point) - have zero idea of my alleged SC total over 11 years, that need a Math Professor to wrestle with, to add only DCS or TSC totals, that Virgin appear incapable of doing. Any airline with BRAINS would have had that data showing on EVERY account right now, and BEFORE the announcement was made.

Been a Virgin PLAT for over 10 years and THAT was the savvy model to award 'FOREVER' Status with - as Air France and real airlines have discovered, as THEY are smart. Ten years constant top elite and you are in - job done. It is only mid tier GOLD, on essentially a LCC for goodness sakes, with few overseas partners. :(

United have FOUR lifetime tiers - STARTING at Gold. These are the BIG BOYS -- and a partner, and Virgin clearly have not learned from their long experience with such plans or even studied them.

We are both Virgin Platinums already to 2026, and hence soft land to Gold until 2027 .... so all a loss to Virgin.

If we want to fly to Europe we'll now have OUR choice of carriers - based on price and other factors. If we want to grab an intro Biz Class fare deal on Turkish Airlines etc, we now CAN, and credit the miles to United. Or use other carriers that allowed miles to be credited somewhere useful. Qatar is now driving this Virgin bus, and with HEAVILY reduced SC earns even on Biz Class fares to Europe, there is no point.

As the Seekers song said - 'The Carnival Is Over'.

We have Lifetime United Gold (hence Star Alliance Lifetime) that gives us full Virgin Lounge access, (even on LITE fares!) Priority Boarding, Priority check-in, and extra bags etc. And have Amex Platinum card for even more lounge access. Handing Virgin $20,000 minimum to receive no extra benefits, except to book an exit row for 'free' and save $15, has no appeal at all to us, at least.

And we will not be alone in that. ❗

This below is Matt's helpful table of $$ pain, that I still feel MASSES of Virgin flyers are unaware of - Most here probably are, but outside here - near zero idea this is the new deal I'd bet - and when THEY stop flying as much, or change to Qantas, the bottom line will get kicked hard -


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Could be wrong, but I'm thinking to retain gold, I need 400 SCs, 200 by me flying directly. Multiply that by 12, and I can retain gold for $2400. I can get 120 SCs from flybys, and the rest by family pooling SCs. What have I missed?
 
Could be wrong, but I'm thinking to retain gold, I need 400 SCs, 200 by me flying directly. Multiply that by 12, and I can retain gold for $2400. I can get 120 SCs from flybys, and the rest by family pooling to be SCs. What have I missed.
Yep, under the new earn rate, you would need to earn half your required status credits yourself, just on flights with VA, that is, flights you have personally flown. The rest can be by other means.
Just keep in mind, you only earn 1 status credit per $12 on VA, for Choice fares and above, once the changes kick in.
So $2400 by yourself for 200 plus another 200 by other means (Coles and flights with pooling) - for Gold retention.
 
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