Woolworths backflips - QF points are coming back

[ozflier]

Masters failed because they didn't a trade section for the tradies like most Bunnings do.

Masters do however offer an easy to get 5% Trade discount .

 

[JessicaTam]

Masters do however offer an easy to get 5% Trade discount .

As do Bunnings. Just need an ABN.

 

[ozflier]

As do Bunnings. Just need an ABN.

I don't agree.
I have an ABN.
Easy to sign up for Masters.
Far more complicated for Bunnings. I tried some 4 months ago and just gave up.

 

[JessicaTam]

I don't agree.
I have an ABN.
Easy to sign up for Masters.
Far more complicated for Bunnings. I tried some 4 months ago and just gave up.

Fair 'nuf. I signed up to Bunnings years ago and it was easy - they must have changed the process.

 

[Moody]

Now spent $3,000+ and have $2.00 on ww pesos.

Not happy Jan (nor Dec, Nov, Oct....) as QFF points are mostly missing as well. All I need now is a spare 6 or 7 hours to spend chasing them up.

This 2-tier system continues to puzzle me. I did a modest shop today - total of $140 "worth" of groceries (value is so subjective). Flash the EDR card and it comes down to $90, thanks to a mobile phone rebate. Pop across to BWS for half a dozen quaffers for the wife and get another $30 off. All up - I "spent" $200 and got $80 back.

I must be an EDR WP!

 

[Moody]

This 2-tier system continues to puzzle me. I did a modest shop today - total of $140 "worth" of groceries (value is so subjective). Flash the EDR card and it comes down to $90, thanks to a mobile phone rebate. Pop across to BWS for half a dozen quaffers for the wife and get another $30 off. All up - I "spent" $200 and got $80 back.

I must be an EDR WP!

Of course if I was a REAL AFFer I would be dirty about the 80 QFF points I lost off my CC spend because of those discounts. I'm sure if you all ask Woolies nicely they will include an option to forego all discounts so you get full QFF CC points. Me - I'd rather have the $80 thanks ....

 

[CaptJCool]

I haven't seen any points notified neither at the checkout screen nor on my dockets.
In any event, the fact u had to spend $31 to get 1 point - wow that's an amazingly horrible earn rate - how much must I spend for that 384,000 F reward ? It's $11,904,000. wow that's a wonderful return on investment for woollies when the average Australian will only net $1,760,000 for 40 years of working. And worse is they get all my data while giving me 1 lousy point.
No wonder people feel ripped off by WW. Addis will roll em over.....
as for Americans Masters, it's like Walmart trying to start stores in Aldis homeland. Gosh the arrogance of them to think they can pay their staff. $4.70 per hour. Well, you say, at least they raises it to $10 per hour recently, right yea only cause it gives them more money to spend in-store. ....while the billionaires compare notes about how many (is it 7-11) houses I own around the world now ?) we had our own episode here with the Rort on Visaholders being threatened with dob-ins by their so called employers because they 'worked too many hours". Until it all blew up and Alan Fels was commissioned to sort it out.
its harder for a rich man to get into heaven than a camel to get thru the eye of a needle...

 

[prozac]

I haven't seen any points notified neither at the checkout ...
No wonder people feel ripped off by WW. Addis will roll em over.....
as for Americans Masters, it's like Walmart trying to start stores in Aldis homeland. Gosh the arrogance of them to think they can pay their staff. $4.70 per hour. Well, you say, at least they raises it to $10 per hour recently, right yea only cause it gives them more money to spend in-store. ....while the billionaires compare notes about how many (is it 7-11) houses I own around the world now ?) we had our own episode here with the Rort on Visaholders being threatened with dob-ins by their so called employers because they 'worked too many hours". Until it all blew up and Alan Fels was commissioned to sort it out.
its harder for a rich man to get into heaven than a camel to get thru the eye of a needle...

What is that all about CaptJCool?

 

[Himeno]

I haven't seen any points notified neither at the checkout screen nor on my dockets.
In any event, the fact u had to spend $31 to get 1 point - wow that's an amazingly horrible earn rate - how much must I spend for that 384,000 F reward ? It's $11,904,000. wow that's a wonderful return on investment for woollies when the average Australian will only net $1,760,000 for 40 years of working. And worse is they get all my data while giving me 1 lousy point.

um... no. It was $30 in a single transaction before points kicked in at $1 per point. In a $60 spend, you'd get 30 points.
If you spent $100, you could get 70 points if it was in 1 transaction, or 40 points if it was in 2 $50 transactions.

It was claimed that the first $30 of spend per transaction was to earn the fuel discount. I'd rather they had given the option for 30 points instead of the fuel discount.

 

[PepsiMax]

Personally looking at it from an outside perspective and comparing WWR to Coles FlyBuys.

WWR is lacking in a lot of value, I cannot gain points when getting fuel from Caltex with the card, however at Shell I get Flybuys (1pt/p$) along with also having the ability to earn the same in coles on my food shopping.

I am not too sure why WW opted to have earning rights on special ticketed items - maybe it was a way to induce manufacturers that we can help promote your product this way, but to be honest it turns me away.

example - small tinned tuna used to be $1, and I would buy around 50 in one go. Now they are $1.50 with .50 of funny money, whats the point of that?

 

[coco50]

I wonder how Masters would have performed if they had given QFF points on purchases; and a few bonus offers?

Bunnings seems to be going OK without any loyalty program attached. I wish they did have one - I would be on the top tier with access to the Bunnings Platinum Lounge!

 

[drron]

Bunnings seems to be going OK without any loyalty program attached. I wish they did have one - I would be on the top tier with access to the Bunnings Platinum Lounge!

You'd have to share it with mrsdrron!

 

[mannej]

WWR is lacking in a lot of value, I cannot gain points when getting fuel from Caltex with the card, however at Shell I get Flybuys (1pt/p$) along with also having the ability to earn the same in coles on my food shopping.

The base rate for Coles Express is 1 flybuy per $2 spent.

 

[PepsiMax]

The base rate for Coles Express is 1 flybuy per $2 spent.

close enough, but still alot better value than purchasing fuel at caltex

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

Moody, to be pedantic, I know I am no expert meself, but EDR as in the previous program does not exist anymore, though that card might still be usable, but the new system/mantra is WWR!
$3,000 worth of groceries for a measly 2 in WWPesos though, streuth!
How much to earn 10 WWPesos (equal to 870 QF FF points) though, $10,000 in groceries, without email bonuses/any bonuses?

 

[andye]

Bunnings seems to be going OK without any loyalty program attached. I wish they did have one - I would be on the top tier with access to the Bunnings Platinum Lounge!

I get Flybuys (as well as Edge supermarket points and EY tier miles) by buying vouchers at Coles. You even get some free points as they cash out change under $10

 

[medhead]

Moody, to be pedantic, I know I am no expert meself, but EDR as in the previous program does not exist anymore, though that card might still be usable, but the new system/mantra is WWR!
$3,000 worth of groceries for a measly 2 in WWPesos though, streuth!
How much to earn 10 WWPesos (equal to 870 QF FF points) though, $10,000 in groceries, without email bonuses/any bonuses?

Or spend $75 and get WWR$25.

If we are being pedantic, it's a VGWC!

example - small tinned tuna used to be $1, and I would buy around 50 in one go. Now they are $1.50 with .50 of funny money, whats the point of that?

So you get WWR$25 for $75 spend and the tuna effectively costs you $1 a piece still. Maybe the point is to increase the cash flow, have the supplier still reimburse Woolies for the $0.50 like they did for a sale price, and then gain from any breakage in unredeemed WWR$.

 

[RAM]

Moody, to be pedantic, I know I am no expert meself, but EDR as in the previous program does not exist anymore, though that card might still be usable, but the new system/mantra is WWR!
$3,000 worth of groceries for a measly 2 in WWPesos though, streuth!
How much to earn 10 WWPesos (equal to 870 QF FF points) though, $10,000 in groceries, without email bonuses/any bonuses?

and what is worse is that spend covered every dept (deli, meat, F&V, dry goods, FMCGs etc).

Would have generated around 2,500 QFF points without any bonuses, coupons or special offers.

So for our family spend - WWR is a dud.
..

 

[Flying Fox]

Bunnings seems to be going OK without any loyalty program attached. I wish they did have one - I would be on the top tier with access to the Bunnings Platinum Lounge!

Ha ha!

Gosh you aim low. I'd want to be a Bunnings CL. But no one is allowed to talk about it.

 

[JohnK]

In any event, the fact u had to spend $31 to get 1 point - wow that's an amazingly horrible earn rate - how much must I spend for that 384,000 F reward ? It's $11,904,000. wow that's a wonderful return on investment for woollies when the average Australian will only net $1,760,000 for 40 years of working. And worse is they get all my data while giving me 1 lousy point.

I'd be more concerned that the CFO of Qantas is earning ~$1,500,000 in one year. That is ludicrous. A couple of hundred thousand and that would be overpaid.

How did we get here?