10 pts / $ for Qantas Vouchers - Back for Xmas 2014

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Time to calm down people :!:

The general experience, if you read back through the forums, is the the only consistent answers you will get are inconsistent. We all get constantly varying answers to some of these questions so it is best to simply accept that and use it to advantage.

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Please point me to a) what I have said in the above that is completely made-up, and b) how I have actually insulted anyone?

You made false assumption earlier about EK F phone booking being waived only because the customer is P1 even though both customer(s) and QF booking agent(s) explained clearly it's not the case. You think you know better then everyone? Fine, but no need for condescending remarks (feeling guilt?!).
I think you were unlucky with your booking, maybe you should HUACA. My gf is WP and wasn't asked to pay any fees when redeeming a voucher over the phone (because it couldn't be done online).
 
You made false assumption earlier about EK F phone booking being waived only because the customer is P1 even though both customer(s) and QF booking agent(s) explained clearly it's not the case.

Please show me the published policy that specifically states that phone booking fees are waived for all members when a booking can not be made online.
 
Please show me the published policy that specifically states that phone booking fees are waived for all members when a booking can not be made online.

Don't try to generalise the subject, we are talking about technical issues when trying to redeem vouchers online. Is there a policy saying members must pay booking fees when a certain Y/J/F service is available but can't be booked online using voucher? We do have very clear information given by QF agents explaining how the system works in this case, which you choose to disregard for some reason.
 
Is there a policy saying members must pay booking fees when a certain Y/J/F service is available but can't be booked online using voucher?

Yes, there is a general written policy that bookings by phone are charged for. There is no published policy that this is waived for all members when a flight (whether paid for by voucher or not) can't be booked online. And there is also a policy that phone booking fees are waived for P1.

I'm not quite sure why you choose to ignore these facts, nor why you feel quite so personally aggrieved by what I have said, but continuing this disagreement seems fairly pointless.

I apologise if anything I have said has upset your quite obviously delicate sensibilities.
 
Thanks for all the advice

Rang up and booked on the phone in a matter of minutes, F on the way over, J on the way back!

No phone assistance fee either

As usual I should have purchased more Xmas vouchers.... :(

Well a few mins after I posted this, I received a $40 SERVICE FEE receipt/email....

Rang up and the first person claimed that it was a phone booking fee, and that is COULD NOT be credited back, regardless of what the previous rep told me and regardless that I had to phone to book the fare as it couldn't be booked online.

She claimed she was going to transfer me back to the original rep, but then simply put be back in the phone queue where it asked for my FF number....

Rang back and the 2nd person said it shouldn't have been charged and filled out a form to get it credit back ASAP

I'll wait and see when/if it refunds to my credit card now...
 
Well a few mins after I posted this, I received a $40 SERVICE FEE receipt/email....

Rang up and the first person claimed that it was a phone booking fee, and that is COULD NOT be credited back, regardless of what the previous rep told me and regardless that I had to phone to book the fare as it couldn't be booked online.

She claimed she was going to transfer me back to the original rep, but then simply put be back in the phone queue where it asked for my FF number....

Rang back and the 2nd person said it shouldn't have been charged and filled out a form to get it credit back ASAP

I'll wait and see when/if it refunds to my credit card now...

And here ^^^ is the beginning of the 'catch' that voucher newbies were wondering about.
 
All I need to do now is add my QFF number to each booking so it shoes in My a bookings and wait for the points to post. Thankfully my first two January travel bookings are already ticketed (one using a 2013 voucher).
 
Is there a place where the purchased vouchers are visible before making actual bkgs?

All I need to do now is add my QFF number to each booking so it shoes in My a bookings and wait for the points to post. Thankfully my first two January travel bookings are already ticketed (one using a 2013 voucher).
 
Yes, using the booking reference in Manage My Booking will bring up the booking - name and voucher value. So long as you close out before selecting flights AND purchasing you won't trigger use of the voucher
 
Please point me to a) what I have said in the above that is completely made-up, and b) how I have actually insulted anyone?

OK I've been away for a day or so and just caught up on this little interchange. I had planned to let it go, but frankly this is too much for me. I'm hot and irritated so fine, I'll answer.

I suspect it was because you're P1, irrespective of what the lovely agent said
You "suspect" and while you didn't insult me, you've basically suggested a QF agent lied to me.
That's insulting the agent, who you don't even know because I've not given any names (thank goodness!)

Even though you're P1 as well - so how would you know?
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So as I say - you're P1, how would you know?

So as you said - twice - what would we know? that's rude and insulting. You really think this is appropriate given the course of the conversation?

Not sure if this is some sort of feeling guilt on both your parts - no need to get your knickers in a twist guys. You're P1, you're special, and QF loves you. Revel in it

This sounds sarcastic to me, and more smacks of more than a touch of envy. Maybe not, but given your previous comments it's not nice.

So if the nice agent on the P1 desk (who is only used to dealing with P1s, and waiving fees for them) tells you on the phone that the fee is being waived because it can't be booked online, rather than simply because you are P1, she is wrong (or at least not adhering to the correct policy).

Inaccurate. There is NO SUCH THING as the P1 "Desk" in Res. There IS the P1 "Special Service Team" iN CBR but they very specifically have said they do not deal with reservations per se, and the few times I've called with an issue that wound up dealing with bookings or res, they've passed me through to res...

... yes the Premium desk, but these folks are not just used to dealing with P1's. Oh but I'm sorry you're not P1 what would you know?! *sigh*

Finally, let's look at policies which you keep talking about.
The P1 policy as posted at: https://www.qantas.com.au/fflyer/dyn/flying/platinum-one-benefits-faqs#travel-benefits
does say "Platinum One members will have selected fees waived to assist with servicing your bookings over the phone. From 7 October 2014, in addition to the Award Assistance Fee waiver, any Booking Fees which would normally apply for new commercial bookings made through the Qantas Contact Centres will also be waived as long as you are travelling in the booking, or you are making the booking for family members on the same flight(s) that you are booked on. There must be at least one Qantas flight number (QF) in each booking. We will also waive any fees associated with arranging a Family Transfer either into or out of your Qantas Frequent Flyer account. Other fees including Change Fees will continue to apply."

Now is a gift voucher booking a new commercial booking? yes and no in my book.. a new commercial booking yes, but technically being paid for by another booking (really that's all these gift vouchers are - bookings with no flights but a ticket value). Honestly when I called res to ask about the EK F thing I specifically asked if this came under this P1 waiver before going ahead and was told that P1 was not relevant ... (as expressed multiple times above). I can only repeat what I've been told by a representative of the company and relay that accurately.

But wait, this gets more fun, on this page https://www.qantas.com.au/fflyer/dyn/program/usingPoints/gift-card-faqs
re GIFT CARDS (not vouchers):
An Award Assistance Fee of 3,500 points or AU$35 applies to orders placed through the Qantas Frequent Flyer Store Contact Centre. However, this fee may be waived for orders for AU$25 Gift Cards if you are unable to process the redemption online.

However for gift VOUCHERS it simply states:
A booking fee applies to redemptions through Qantas Contact Centres.

So it does seem that there's room for agents to use common sense, and this has resulted in mixed experiences by various members and I would argue even the P1 "general waiver" as quoted above may or may not apply given that gift vouchers are treated differently to even gift cards and other general bookings as they have their own set of T&C. I'd almost laugh if a P1 reported being charged.....

However I believe I have answered your question above.

Please perhaps consider your wording in future - remember in an online forum one cannot easily infer sarcasm or humour or inflections and the actual intent can be easily misunderstood. Sometimes what we think is a nothing line can be taken by others in other ways (I've done it myself).

posted in the interests of constructive criticism and not interested in a flame war (despite being overheated and irritated :) )
 
I make the following observations:

You guys should chill out.

This would not be the first time QF had inconsistencies.

This would not be the first time QF staff didn't know their own policies, or made it up on the run, or 'lied' to a customer (perhaps through ignorance rather than anything else).

As indicated upthread, if a booking fee is being imposed on a booking that cannot be made online, you can most likely have it waived. This is not a published policy however, so YMMV. HUACA seems to be the best approach. There are some ACCC issues around them imposing a booking fee for these, which would be interesting to follow up.

And lastly, you guys need to chill out :)
 
Time to calm down people :!:

The general experience, if you read back through the forums, is the the only consistent answers you will get are inconsistent. We all get constantly varying answers to some of these questions so it is best to simply accept that and use it to advantage.

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[mod hat]In post #381 I politely mentioned/asked people to calm down now. Some obviously cannot accept the gentle suggestion so it it is now not simply a suggestion. It is time to go back to the topic. Further posts aimed at individuals are not acceptable and will result in moderation action being taken.[/mod hat]
 
I bought a voucher 26DEC14, made a booking with said voucher on 27DEC14 and have now flown both flights.
Time to now wait and see how long the bonus points take to post.
 
I bought a voucher 26DEC14, made a booking with said voucher on 27DEC14 and have now flown both flights.
Time to now wait and see how long the bonus points take to post.

Well the T&C say it could be up to 8 weeks to post. It seems there was a "run" just before Christmas that credited most vouchers done in November (done=purchased). Seems bookings flown or not don't make a difference - the vouchers are non refundable, so once bought there's no reason for QF to not award the bonus points I think given they don't really care if you book something (and fly) or not.. they'd probably prefer not as it happens. Either way money is in the bank for them. I am a little surprised they haven't run something just after Jan 1 (but maybe this week?) to clear up all these December ones, but it may well be nearer the end of Jan.

You'll get the points :)
 
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Well the T&C say it could be up to 8 weeks to post. It seems there was a "run" just before Christmas that credited most vouchers done in November (done=purchased). Seems bookings flown or not don't make a difference - the vouchers are non refundable, so once bought there's no reason for QF to not award the bonus points I think given they don't really care if you book something (and fly) or not.. they'd probably prefer not as it happens. Either way money is in the bank for them. I am a little surprised they haven't run something just after Jan 1 (but maybe this week?) to clear up all these December ones, but it may well be nearer the end of Jan.

You'll get the points :)

Bookings flown have made a big difference in past years, which is why the experienced posters are exhibiting caution over possible posting of the points.
 
Agree, sometimes it's better to wait until they have posted first, before using vouchers ;)

I had no issues this time around using the vouchers prior to getting the points, and all bonus points came through, so I think that element is fixed.

Residuals however are another story.
 
I purchased vouchers online 20 December , bonuses credited 24 December no problems .
 
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