2016 US Presidential Election and Fallout

[dajop]

Oh dear.POTUS is always in the middle.

I didn't think POTUS being in the middle was the problem (after all that's just what most on the left side of politics would prefer ) just the way he got to the middle.

 

[burmans]

Have to observe all this scrutiny ("curtsy", shoving, fat jokes etc) probably just re-inforces the view that media are out to get him ... so probably helps his cause rather than harms it.

The actions of the media are nothing new and not really about Trump, despite this "they are out to get him" view.

The media are always looking for a story and quite happy to criticise anyone on the slightest pretext. Donald Trumps real problem her is that he just can't help giving the media so many opportunities to show him up, they'd quite happily do it to anyone but the Donald provides rich fodder, they are hardly going to ignore this.

 

[get me outta here]

Interesting piece on CNN. Apparently, 'Sean Spicer is a very devout Catholic and it would have been the highlight of his life to be at the meeting with the Pope. Various hangers on who were not Catholics were there, but Trump did not allow Spicer in'.

I found that quite sad.

 

[get me outta here]

On the US TV here they showed the unceremonious push he gave. Didn't they show it on TV in Aus, or are these photos deliberately missing the point?

Sorry CE that has always happened in these sort of meetings.here's a few previous Nato meetings-

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Oh dear.POTUS is always in the middle.

 

[drron]

On the US TV here they showed the unceremonious push he gave. Didn't they show it on TV in Aus, or are these photos deliberately missing the point?

I've watched the video several times and quite frankly I didn't see a "shove".he reached out from behind,put it on the shoulder and certainly moved the shoulder a small distance back but saying shove or pushing the fellow out of the way is really overdoing it.

 

[get me outta here]

Describe it as you wish with semantics. Others described it as a not-so-diplomatic maneuver. Perhaps that is acceptable.

 

[drron]

I didn't think POTUS being in the middle was the problem (after all that's just what most on the left side of politics would prefer ) just the way he got to the middle.

You are taking this out of context.I originally quoted an article where Mr.Spicer had said that the arrangements had been predetermined.Then there was a post saying that Spicer was not known for being truthful.So my post was pointing out that at these meetings(and the photos were of previous NATO meetings) that the order for the photo ops was predetermined with POTUS always in the middle.So Spicer was indeed telling the truth.So POTUS in the middle was indeed the issue.

 

[serfty]

Heard what I thought was a interesting and slightly non committal comment about POTUS last night from a relatively conservative gentleman.

To paraphrase, "Trump? Nup!But I do like it that he's made a lot of people I don't care for very uncomfortable".

 

[whatmeworry]

Trump Son in Law now under investigation for ties to Russia.

Jared Kushner and Russia’s ambassador to Washington discussed the possibility of setting up a secret and secure communications channel between Trump’s transition team and the Kremlin, using Russian diplomatic facilities in an apparent move to shield their pre-inauguration discussions from monitoring, according to U.S. officials briefed on intelligence reports.
Ambassador Sergey Kislyak reported to his superiors in Moscow that Kushner, son-in-law and confidant to then-President-elect Trump, made the proposal during a meeting on Dec. 1 or 2 at Trump Tower, according to intercepts of Russian communications that were reviewed by U.S. officials. Kislyak said Kushner suggested using Russian diplomatic facilities in the United States for the communications.
The meeting also was attended by Michael Flynn, Trump’s first national security adviser.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...a_story.html?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.0dbbc8980392

 

[Moody]

Sorry CE that has always happened in these sort of meetings.here's a few previous Nato meetings-
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Oh dear.POTUS is always in the middle.

Oh Dear .... so you forgot to include the videos of Obama rudely shoving aside the other world leaders. Please recitify this quickly - else you will look very, very foolish.

 

[Moody]

I've watched the video several times and quite frankly I didn't see a "shove".he reached out from behind,put it on the shoulder and certainly moved the shoulder a small distance back but saying shove or pushing the fellow out of the way is really overdoing it.

Astronomers are getting good at finding planets even from light years away. Don't give up the dream, drron.

 

[Quickstatus]

Just updating the list of actors whom HRC has blamed for her electoral loss:

Russian hackers and Putin
FBI and Jim Comey and his letter late october
Trump
Obama
Misogyny of suburban white women
Fake news on facebook and other social media sites, Wikileaks. New York Times
Netflix
Voters who didnt turn out or were too dumb to vote correctly
Her party (DNC) for its poor performance and lack of money
and now Macedonia.....

 

[JessicaTam]

Just updating the list of actors whom HRC has blamed for her electoral loss:

Russian hackers and Putin
FBI and Jim Comey and his letter late october
Trump
Obama
Misogyny of suburban white women
Fake news on facebook and other social media sites, Wikileaks. New York Times
Netflix
Voters who didnt turn out or were too dumb to vote correctly
Her party (DNC) for its poor performance and lack of money
and now Macedonia.....

I suspect if Trump had lost there would be a similar list by now. It is a rare thing these days for a politician of any persuasion to take responsibility for their own failings.

 

[whatmeworry]

Are the Trumps stealing from Cancer Kids.

[video=youtube;ouwhzTwu2RE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouwhzTwu2RE[/video]

 

[Hvr]

Am currently watching Comey testifying to the Senate committee. He took lots of contemporaneous notes about his meetings with President Trump that he has submitted.

This will get very interesting.

 

[whatmeworry]

Trump under investigation for money laundering in Russia.

[video=youtube;5jJ8wt6nokY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jJ8wt6nokY[/video]

 

[Denali]

Its like death by a thousand paper cuts with his person. When, when is what I keep asking every day.

 

[Moindardt]

It's amazing how I can hardly find any of those outraged posts about the shooter in Washington. If it was a Trump supporter it would still be front page on every paper. It couldn't be the left turning a blind eye or being hypocritical. Lucky we have none of them here.

 

[whatmeworry]

It's amazing how I can hardly find any of those outraged posts about the shooter in Washington. If it was a Trump supporter it would still be front page on every paper. It couldn't be the left turning a blind eye or being hypocritical. Lucky we have none of them here.

You do realise Trump has on multiple occasions encouraged violence at his rallies which has helped further divide USA.

[video=youtube;qfz8KXVOpWY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfz8KXVOpWY[/video]

 

[drron]

You do realise Trump has on multiple occasions encouraged violence at his rallies which has helped further divide USA.

[video=youtube;qfz8KXVOpWY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfz8KXVOpWY[/video]

You do realise that most of the violence at Trump rallies was organised by groups with links to the DNC-
https://d1sb17b1leotpq.cloudfront.n...gn-and-dnc-incite-violence-trump-rallies.html