27th February Big Qantas announcement

[amaroo]

The problem now is of course with no spare A388s, any unplanned maintenance due to a failure of another A388 will mean a 744 has to be brought in at short notice.

Plenty of poor sods will now get a terrible F and J seat because some tool in LAX can't do their job correctly....no doubt everyone will blame QF. Just like the pitiful Fairfax organisation. God only knows what BS the ABC has been peddling!

 

[amaroo]

Never going to get one though.

Unfortunately I agree completely.

And people call it a level playing field!

 

[ketsuzei]

Plenty of poor sods will now get a terrible F (...) seat

I hate it when that happens.

 

[xt_20]

What good is QFF when we can't fly QF?
I prefer to use my points for international flying, and I mainly travel from PER to SIN/KUL. Now I can't, so might as well ditch QFF and build up by Krisflyer points.
Will QFF still make money when more and more people leave, because they can't fly QF?

Also I was on 3K 132 PER - SIN yesterday, and by the looks of it around 50% of the people were either travelling to SIN or doing a self transit. Plane was 90% full, though I don't know how they make money when they have people like me paying $135 for that flight, booked only 2 weeks in advance. Loads were about 80-90%. I can't imagine QF can't get enough passengers to fill an A332 Perth to Singapore.

 

[Mr_Orange]

Plenty of poor sods will now get a terrible F

'Terrible'... really??

 

[amaroo]

'Terrible'... really??

Having experienced the difference between an F seat/cabin on an A380 and 747 - terrible is putting it nicely!

 

[Flying mermaid]

'Terrible'... really??

Not sure I would say terrible, but certainly nowhere near as good. I was a little unhappy when I had timed flights to Hong Kong last year around getting A380 both ways to find a last minute substitution of a 747. Food, wine, service was still F standard (although we were given J amenity kits), but you just can't compare seats or screens in the two planes in F - more social though as I moved Mr FM and I over to 3 E and F rather than our original 2A and 3 A. Still what can you do - equipment is never guaranteed.....

 

[petercr]

Having experienced the difference between an F seat/cabin on an A380 and 747 - terrible is putting it nicely!

You should try the difference between whY in an upgraded 3-class 744 (QF15) and a packed to the gills non-refurb'd 4-class 744 (on the LAX-JFK leg of QF107) after the cancellation of the previous day's flight....

 

[Happy Trails]

... God only knows what BS the ABC has been peddling!

Here it is, if you can bear to read it; typical left wing bleeding heart rubbish, riddled with inaccuracies.

Qantas wings clip in on-ground incident at LA airport

Updated 4 hours 8 minutes ago
MAP: United States

Two Qantas aircraft have collided in an incident on the ground at Los Angeles airport.
The airline says the wing tips of an A380 and B747 clipped while being towed out of the hangar.
There were no passengers on board and no injuries have been reported in the collision, which has been reported to the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA).
A full investigation is underway.
In a statement issued by the airline, a Qantas spokesperson said both aircraft had been assessed by engineers resulting in the cancellation of two services.
The affected flights are QF94 (Los Angeles to Melbourne) and QF16 (Los Angeles to Brisbane).
Passengers will be placed on the next available services.

Qantas wings clip in on-ground incident at LA airport - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

 

[Falcs]

It's easy to kick an airline while it's down but perhaps today it should be admitted that QF has survived a decade in which most of the American industry filed for bankruptcy and a few European majors joined them. Meanwhile QF pays interest on time, will continue to employ 27,000 staff and takes us on joyrides locally and overseas which have all been return trips. I feel more than a little sorry for shareholders (as I always do as an ex-stockbroker) but then the federal Government is the organisation that collected the sale proceeds at $2 per share. Next time we're all enjoying drinks in a QF lounge we should think a bit more postive!

You mean the decade when Ansett collapsed and Qantas had a near monopoly for domestic?

 

[NFF]

May be the days of cheap domestic tickets are coming to an end.

 

[JessicaTam]

Here it is, if you can bear to read it; typical left wing bleeding heart rubbish, riddled with inaccuracies.

Qantas wings clip in on-ground incident at LA airport

Updated 4 hours 8 minutes ago
MAP: United States

Two Qantas aircraft have collided in an incident on the ground at Los Angeles airport.
The airline says the wing tips of an A380 and B747 clipped while being towed out of the hangar.
There were no passengers on board and no injuries have been reported in the collision, which has been reported to the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA).
A full investigation is underway.
In a statement issued by the airline, a Qantas spokesperson said both aircraft had been assessed by engineers resulting in the cancellation of two services.
The affected flights are QF94 (Los Angeles to Melbourne) and QF16 (Los Angeles to Brisbane).
Passengers will be placed on the next available services.

Qantas wings clip in on-ground incident at LA airport - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Unless your comment was tongue in cheek, I fail to see the inaccuracies, and hence the reason for any anti-ABC rant.

 

[cove]

While Qantas has copped a bit of bad publicity Virgin announced their worst results ever as well. They are not coping well with the mistakes that they have made either and are quickly losing the emergency money that they raised from their shareholders late last year.
We need money makers to run both Qantas and Virgin to get on board in the next 12 months.

 

[VHOEJ]

Yes Virgin announced terrible results but the main story was still QF - the difference is one carrier has an endless supply of money from its owners to draw on, the other doesnt.

 

[markis10]

While Qantas has copped a bit of bad publicity Virgin announced their worst results ever as well. They are not coping well with the mistakes that they have made either and are quickly losing the emergency money that they raised from their shareholders late last year.
We need money makers to run both Qantas and Virgin to get on board in the next 12 months.

As someone in a business I am a little surprised at the inaccuracies in your rhetoric! Its not the biggest loss by virgin at all, that honor goes to the results announced two years ago. As for quickly losing the emergency money, their cash position saw an improvement from some $580M, to almost $900M, that's five years of buffer at current "quickly losing" rates?

AFAIK A lot of the loss is in fact related to getting their house in order re cash flow and booking the implications of that in terms of the derivatives. It would be surprising to see such one offs pop up on the balance sheet on the near future at similar levels of loss.

Given QF added four seats for every one added by VA, yet managed a revenue increase and greater share of the corporate market, the signs are there of a good future.

Australian Aviation did a "compare the pair" piece that sums up the key points in my view:

That is because for Qantas the biggest challenge is managing decline in its international for business, whereas Virgin’s challenge is managing growth. Virgin’s restructuring costs will fall away and as it continues to grow, scale will drive down its unit costs. For Qantas international the problem is almost exactly the opposite.

No wonder Borghetti could afford to smile when Joyce could only grimace.

http://australianaviation.com.au/20...bservations-on-the-qantas-and-virgin-results/

 

[ajw373]

I imagine someone's dodgy driving hasn't made this week much easier either!

Qantas crash in Los Angeles causes millions of dollars damage

As the aircraft was coming out of a hanger I am waiting for one of the unions to come out and say it is proof that offshore maintenance is dangerous. Never mind of course what would have been taking place would have been line maintenance and cleaning.

 

[BadgerBoi]

Unless your comment was tongue in cheek, I fail to see the inaccuracies, and hence the reason for any anti-ABC rant.

The ABC is in cahoots with the unions and other evil communist organisations. They are plotting to bring the country down, having taken the first-born son from every family to be sacrificed to Lenin. If you're not force-fed opinions by Andrew Bolt and Senator Rupert you are being un-Australian.

I think that's how it works

 

[Chucksta]

The funny thing was... i was going to chase Platinum 1 this year. but now I have to take SQ to Singapore, I will be spending my $$$ chasing PPS instead. Lucky i didnt make any bookings before this announcement... phew!!

 

[markis10]

SMH have a piece basically giving a historical recap of what's happened until this week, the graphic on route changes serves as a good reminder of the thing that has affected most customers:

 

[Lonely Flyer]

Perth has certainly suffered over the years. Too many flights but obviously not enough passengers. Maybe a PER-HKG-NRT could have worked. Also PER-CGK-SIN. Four flghts into 2. Then again may not be enough people wanting to travel in this config.