A Complete, Updated List of Fifth-Freedom Routes

[SYD]

This page:

https://www.qantas.com/au/en/qantas-experience/network-and-partner-airlines/aircalin.html

See table that shows classic rewards when booked as a QF flight.

Doesn’t seem to explicitly mention CR only available between Oz and NOU? (irrespective of actual code)?

Curious from that table that you don’t earn FF points on an SB code (I had assumed that they were a regular earn partner).

 

[henrus]

Doesn’t seem to explicitly mention CR only available between Oz and NOU? (irrespective of actual code)?

True but the QF agreements only cover flights between Aus and NOU meaning all other SB services aren’t eligible.

Curious from that table that you don’t earn FF points on an SB code (I had assumed that they were a regular earn partner).

That is correct, same applies for Air Tahiti Nui.

 

[SYD]

True but the QF agreements only cover flights between Aus and NOU meaning all other SB services aren’t eligible.

Not disputing, just curious where it’s documented? The AF/KLM arrangements are pretty broad now (eg KL SCL-EZE is readily available), so kind of strange it couldn’t be extended.

 

[AIRwin]

Batik is suspending TPE-KIX:

Batik Air Malaysia Suspends Osaka Service From Dec 2024 — AeroRoutes

Published at 0900GMT 17OCT24 Batik Air Malaysia yesterday (16OCT24) further revised Kuala Lumpur – Taipei Taoyuan – Osaka Kansai route, as the airline closed reservations for all flights on/after 08DEC24. Planned service reductions from 7 to 4 weekly between 27OCT24 and 07DEC24 remain unchanged.

www.aeroroutes.com

 

[AIRwin]

CA = CDG + ALG

CAAC 3Q24 Approved Chinese Carriers Long-Haul Routes — AeroRoutes

Published at 0600GMT 22OCT24 China’s CAAC in the third quarter of 2024 approved various international routes applied by Chinese carriers. Based on published document issued on 17OCT24, the following are notable approved long-haul routes that are not available for reservations. Air China Beij

www.aeroroutes.com

 

[moa999]

BA to introduce a SIN-KUL-SIN tag from April 2025.

What’s On The Horizon For: Malaysia Airports | Aviation Week Network

Exhibiting at Routes World 2024 in Bahrain, Malaysia Airports Holdings Berhad showcased recent successes and core target markets for expansion.

aviationweek.com

 

[SYD]

BA to introduce a SIN-KUL-SIN tag from April 2025.

What’s On The Horizon For: Malaysia Airports | Aviation Week Network

Exhibiting at Routes World 2024 in Bahrain, Malaysia Airports Holdings Berhad showcased recent successes and core target markets for expansion.

aviationweek.com

Presumably in lieu of direct flights that were announced and then canned?

Curious which aircraft will operate given currently the A380 from LHR turns around and the 787 flies thru to SYD. Is there a 3rd (or 4th) LON-SIN BA flight?

 

[moa999]

Current schedule per Google Flights.

BA11 LHR-SIN 1855 - 1555+1 Daily 388
BA15 LHR-SIN 2110 - 1825+1 Daily 77W

BA15 SIN-SYD 2005 - 0655+1 Daily 77W
BA16 SYD-SIN 1620 - 2125 Daily 77W

BA16 SIN-LHR 2305 0525+1 Daily 77W
BA12 SIN-LHR 2315 0540+1 Daily 388

So the 380 sits for 7hrs at SIN, definitely enough for a turn, though you could swap things around.
Nothing yet loaded in BAs booking system for June 2025.

Quite a few QF flights arrive in the 1600-1700 bank, so some possible QF connections if BA pushed the flight a little later or had extended ground time.

 

[moa999]

Possibly article was wrong . Another post on airliners suggests BA may be flying direct.

BA33 LHR-KUL 2110 1700+1
BA34 KUL-LHR 2310 0525+1

 

[Catweazle]

In late 2019 I flew Port Vila to Brisbane on Nauru Airlines albeit on a Air Vanuatu codeshare ticketed by Qantas. Is this route still a thing?

 

[henrus]

In late 2019 I flew Port Vila to Brisbane on Nauru Airlines albeit on an Air Vanuatu codeshare ticketed by Qantas. Is this route still a thing?

Qantas used to codeshare on Air Vanuatu who was wet leasing Nauru aircraft hence why you booked with Qantas and ended up on Nauru airlines.

Air Vanuatu no longer operate international flights but the good news is Qantas now operate their own 737s from Brisbane to Vanuatu and Jetstar A320s from Sydney.

 

[AIRwin]

Not technically fifth freedom but this was included in the original AFF list:

Air Tahiti Nui Cancels Seattle – Paris Service From Jan 2025 — AeroRoutes

Published at 0200GMT 21NOV24 Air Tahiti Nui this week filed service changes for Northern summer 2025 season, as the airline removes planned service resumption on Seattle – Paris Charles de Gaulle sector. Previously scheduled for suspension from 05JAN25 to 01APR25, the airline will not resume thi

www.aeroroutes.com

 

[Catweazle]

Not technically fifth freedom but this was included in the original AFF list:

Air Tahiti Nui Cancels Seattle – Paris Service From Jan 2025 — AeroRoutes

Published at 0200GMT 21NOV24 Air Tahiti Nui this week filed service changes for Northern summer 2025 season, as the airline removes planned service resumption on Seattle – Paris Charles de Gaulle sector. Previously scheduled for suspension from 05JAN25 to 01APR25, the airline will not resume thi

www.aeroroutes.com

A shame, as I would have preferred routing through SEA rather than LAX.