Abbott in Government

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Re: Oz Federal Election 2013 - Discussion and Comments

Back to basics.The bill is not a Universal health care bill.There will still be millions not covered by insurance.
Pretty sure I didn't call it one. Certainly not intentionally. I may have said it was something like universal healthcare. That's "like" as in "corresponding or agreeing in general or in some noticeable respect", or "bearing resemblance", if you want to focus on irrelevant semantics.

As to my link.Once again you have shown you don't know the full details.Harry Reid is the majority leader in the Senate.The framer of the bill that I was referring to is Sen Max Baucus.He is the one as the article says called the bill a train wreck.Go and google him.
Let me quote the first few sentences from the article you linked to, with some relevant words that you seem to not have read, highlighted.

"Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) says he shares colleagues’ concerns that the Affordable Care Act could become a “train wreck” if it’s not implemented properly."

"Reid warned that people will not be able to choose health insurance plans on government health exchanges if federal authorities lack the resources to set them up and educate the public."

"“Max said unless we implement this properly it’s going to be a train wreck, and I agree with him,” Reid said, echoing a warning delivered last month by Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.)."

"Reid warned the federal government is not spending enough money to implement the law because of Republican opposition to ObamaCare."

So he's saying that if the petulant childish psychopaths with a born-to-rule attitude use the leverage they have to prevent Obamacare from being properly implemented, it will be a "train wreck".

Which is an entirely different statement all together from saying "Obamacare is a train wreck".

Drawing a false equivalence like that is, as before, disingenuous at best, outright dishonest at worst.

Why do you keep thinking because the President has delayed some parts of the bill it shows he is willing to negotiate.
I said that was an example of how he was prepared to modify it.


There's nothing to negotiate about Obamacare. It's a law. The proper avenue to change it, is to have more legislation passed either changing or repealing it, not hold a metaphorical gun to the economy's metaphorical head and demand things be done the way they want.

You still haven't explained why you keep siding in favour of people who think an appropriate legislative response to a law they don't like is shutting down the Government and threatening the country with default.
 
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More taxpayer money being wasted on liberal party ideology. The hypocrisy of this government has no bounds. Stop wasting my money.
 
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And a nice $200,000 sum the taxpayers have to fork out just to let the two Labor contenders have their battle. Seems we are discussing all the small fry sums of money with the travel business, when the "legitimate" wastage is where the real story lies.

What a joke! Abbott has used $50000 of travel to sporting events - his hobby. That is not comparable.
 
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This thread is funnier than the humour thread. And can we please agree that the issues in the US are so far off topic that they should be stopped or continued in another thread.
 
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This thread is funnier than the humour thread. And can we please agree that the issues in the US are so far off topic that they should be stopped or continued in another thread.

It's human nature - if you are losing the argument then change topics to safer ground, and there's nothing safer than putting on the pointed hood and riding out in a lynch-mob. You just need to be careful how you cut the eye-holes ....
 
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What a joke! Abbott has used $50000 of travel to sporting events - his hobby. That is not comparable.

Yes, but it's a grey area, they tell us. So it must be OK. ;)
 
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A couple more paying back wedding travel expenses. I suspect the PM can't pay back his sporting trips because of his double mortgage he took out to fund his daughters private school education.
Two more members of Tony Abbott's frontbench have refunded taxpayers over entitlements linked to weddings, with Immigration Minister Scott Morrison and Assistant Minister for Defence Stuart Robert both admitting they incorrectly made expense claims.
 
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Just saw Christopher Pyne on the 7:30 Report. What an utter scumbag - would you believe he is even worse in government than he was in opposition.

Anybody want to admit voting for this cretin?
 
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Now 2 labor politicians having to pay back travel monies.
 
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Re: Oz Federal Election 2013 - Discussion and Comments

Now 2 labor politicians having to pay back travel monies.

So what's the current scorecard for the Coalition and Labour? It was running at 2/1 before the current wedding scandals broke, but I would be interested in a more recent figure ... could you look it up for me, thanks Pushka.
 
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Keep it up fellows.Very reminiscent of 1996.The Twitterati really got into the Coalition on the exact same topic.and Howard went on to be PM for 11 years.
 
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Keep it up fellows.Very reminiscent of 1996.The Twitterati really got into the Coalition on the exact same topic.and Howard went on to be PM for 11 years.

Twitter did not exist in 1996
 
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Just saw Christopher Pyne on the 7:30 Report. What an utter scumbag - would you believe he is even worse in government than he was in opposition.

Anybody want to admit voting for this cretin?
Nope, but happy to have been amongst the 42%-odd of the population who voted for a representative supporting carbon pricing, amongst those the dictatorial and hypocritical Mr Pyne thinks should not have any say in how the country is being run.
 
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More taxpayer money being wasted on liberal party ideology. The hypocrisy of this government has no bounds. Stop wasting my money.

Mmmm do you pay a lot of tax then? I do and I'm happy for Tony to spend it rather than Billy Shorton ideas
 
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So what's the current scorecard for the Coalition and Labour? It was running at 2/1 before the current wedding scandals broke, but I would be interested in a more recent figure ... could you look it up for me, thanks Pushka.

The rhetoric amongst posters here is that it's only the coalition involved. Quite simply, it isn't. And unlike one particular labor person there are no criminal charges.
 
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The "lunatic right-wing" is now officially a tautology. Apparently democracy in the US should be repealed because a lefty nigger is in charge. Django Unchained anybody???

But I like the sound of a double dissolution for Oz - the honeymoon for lying Prime Ministers is notoriously brief!



Double dissolution lol Billy is no KRudd 60% of labor party members wanted the other guy, he would be wiped out the honeymoon is not over yet the coalition are 1.30 for the next election
 
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Double dissolution lol Billy is no KRudd 60% of labor party members wanted the other guy, he would be wiped out the honeymoon is not over yet the coalition are 1.30 for the next election


I look forward to it - and hope that Despicable T doesn't continue his grovelling apology theme and back down from the DD threat. If Scum Hunt can be believed (and he can't) scrapping the fixed price ETS will save me about $5 a week. Well that's worth jettisoning any international credibility for, isn't it? I'll now be able to afford another coffee on Sunday whilst reading what Murdoch is doing with the country next. What could be better???

[BTW - it's "Backstabbing Billy" don't you know. Keep up with the kindergarten name calling ....]
 
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I thought he was known as "showbag" Shorten in the Union movement.
Looks good on the outside,nothing much inside.
 
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