ALL QF's 330's to get lay flat Business seating - Including Domestic

[moa999]

Updated based on Qantas Source posts / FR24 data / YSSY board / above

-- Current aircraft in Brisbane maintenance
VH-QPE 330-300 In 4/8/15 (SIN repaint 25/4-12/5) Expect out early-Oct
VH-EBF - In 27/8/15 (repainted in SIN 5/8/15-26/8 from JQ paint). Expect out ~25/9

-- Summary
Refurb complete
A330-300 5 / 10 - QPA, QPB, QPC, QPD, QPI
A330-200 6 / 18 - EBA, EBB, EBJ, EBK, EBS, EBV
330-300s - 28J/ 269Y, J Panasonic ex3 16" IFE, Y Panasonic exLite 11" IFE
330-200s - 28J/ 243Y, J Panasonic ex3 16" IFE, Y Panasonic 9" IFE (8. EBM-EBS, EBV), 8" iPadMini (10. EBA-EBG, EBJ-EBL)
Notes.
- QPI yet to be painted to New Roo
- 18 final 330-200s expected to be EBA-EBG, EBJ-EBS, EBV (EBH, EBI to RAAF, EBT, EBU never registered)
- Currently 18 330-200s in QF colours (to add EBE, delete EBI)

-- Refurbishment history
VH-EBV 330-200 - 1mth 15days - In 16/11/14 Out 31/12/14
VH-QPA 330-300 - 2mth 13days - In 3/11/14 Out 16/1/15, C8 check (SIN repaint 2/8-20/8 )
VH-EBA 330-200 - 1mth 12days - In 1/1/15 Out 13/2/15
VH-QPC 330-300 - 2mth 6days - In 17/1/15 Out 23/3/15, C8 check (SIN repaint 16/7/15-2/8/15 )
VH-EBJ 330-200 - 1mth 3days - In 14/3/15 Out 17/4/15 (fresh from SIN repaint from JQ from 27/2-13/3)
VH-QPB 330-300 - 2mth 7 days - In 16/2/15 Out 23/4/15 (fresh from SIN repaint 31/1-16/2, C8 check)
VH-EBS 330-200 - 30days - In 26/4/15 Out 25/5/15
VH-QPD 330-300 - 2mth 2 days - In 23/4/15 - out 25/6/15 (SIN repaint 15/3-30/3)
VH-EBB 330-200 - 27 days - In 8/6/15 - Out 4/7/15
VH-QPI 330-300 - 28 days - In 7/7/15 Out 3/8/15 (Still needs repaint, no C check)
VH-EBK 330-200 - 31 days - In 22/7/15 Out 22/8/15 (SIN repaint 22/8-9/9

-- In Singapore for painting (presumably) -300s only (all the -200s are already New Roo apart from the JQ aircraft)
None

-- Likely next
VH-QPF 330-300 SIN repaint 13/7-29/7
VH-EBE 330-200 with JQ - last flight appears to be 25/9/15

-- 330-200 unrefurb configs remaining
3 - Intl with SkyBed I, RC AVOD - EBG, EBI, EBL
4 - Dom with J workbench, Panasonic AVOD - EBO, EBP, EBQ, EBR
2 - Dom with 2x2x2 J, Panasonic AVOD - EBM, EBN
2 - Dom with 2x2x2 38 seats, QStreaming iPads- EBC, EBD
11 - Subtotal
-1 EBI back to lessor
+2 Still with JQ / being refurbed, no AVOD - EBE, EBF
12 Total

 

[pythonisman]

Amazing job moa999 correlating the data!

Just booked J SYD xBNE NRT and vv in late Dec returning late Jan and at the moment both int'l legs are showing the new 333, as a bonus my SYD-BNE flight is also showing as a refurb'd 332!

Can't wait for holidays!

 

[Mr_Orange]

Amazing job moa999 correlating the data!

+1

Just logged into my account and checked next month's BNE-PER rtn and now both legs are showing as refurbed 332s as opposed to just one. Nice, but of course both could change to non-refurbs before we fly.....

 

[baggyred]

+1

Just logged into my account and checked next month's BNE-PER rtn and now both legs are showing as refurbed 332s as opposed to just one. Nice, but of course both could change to non-refurbs before we fly.....

Just did the same and two return flights per-bne and per-mel have both gone from both legs on ex-jetstar to new config...

Now the waiting game and hoping it holds.

 

[jimmylikesitwet]

Just booked some flights from MEL-PER next year for a mini-moon (small honeymoon) and have got the new config on the way over. Can someone recommend the best pair of seats for a couple? I have the choice of anything from row 5-8 and it was mentioned earlier that the middle pair weren't great but looking at the way the seats are staggered (at least in the diagram) I'm wondering if 6F and 5K might be the best options even though technically they're not in the same row. Advice from people who have flown the new config would be most appreciated.

 

[Spizz]

- 330-200 unrefurb configs remaining

3 - Intl with SkyBed I, RC AVOD - EBG, EBI, EBL

Looks like the planes used for HNL the A330-200 are being done last

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Edit: It is especially disappointing to read these type of comments given how long QF took to start installing these seats from initial announcement and how long the installation is taking! It seems like they could have saved themselves a lot of time and effort.

QF could have gone for a reverse herringbone - same as CX uses. Arguably a better seat on CX and no delays due to certification. And same number of seats.

And reverse herrigbone is so much easier from a passenger perspective... no worrying about which aisle seat (ie up against the window, or against the aisle). All seats in all rows are the same.

But hey, this is about the airline, not the passenger right?

 

[RichardMEL]

I actually would argue that the QF config offers variety and choice. I mean some people prefer the QF suite with the seat near the aisle, and others prefer it towards the window (or middle as case may be). So, you potentially offer a choice of different layouts. The downside is, of course, if you like a certain sort of configuration for your suite, and they are all taken vs all being more or less the same. I think QF may have gambled on making the product more unique MAY give them an edge vs. the various regional products of their competition.

Just a thought

 

[grrofunger]

Just booked some flights from MEL-PER next year for a mini-moon (small honeymoon) and have got the new config on the way over. Can someone recommend the best pair of seats for a couple? I have the choice of anything from row 5-8 and it was mentioned earlier that the middle pair weren't great but looking at the way the seats are staggered (at least in the diagram) I'm wondering if 6F and 5K might be the best options even though technically they're not in the same row. Advice from people who have flown the new config would be most appreciated.

those numbers are good

odd window number and corresponding middle seat are the best for couples as both sides of the suite are open to each other

 

[Mr_Orange]

Does anyone know whether 1A and 1E on the -200s are aligned or staggered?

 

[jimmylikesitwet]

Does anyone know whether 1A and 1E on the -200s are aligned or staggered?

From what this shows they are staggered.

SeatGuru Seat Map Qantas Airbus A330-200 (332) Domestic V3

As per grrofunger's advice above I've selected 6F and 5K as the best couple option.

 

[Mr_Orange]

From what this shows they are staggered.

SeatGuru Seat Map Qantas Airbus A330-200 (332) Domestic V3

As per grrofunger's advice above I've selected 6F and 5K as the best couple option.

Thanks. The QF seatmaps show something similar, but I was wondering what the reality was from those who have flown. Any photographs please?

 

[JohnPhelan]

QF could have gone for a reverse herringbone - same as CX uses. Arguably a better seat on CX and no delays due to certification. And same number of seats.

And reverse herrigbone is so much easier from a passenger perspective... no worrying about which aisle seat (ie up against the window, or against the aisle). All seats in all rows are the same.

But hey, this is about the airline, not the passenger right?

Don't assume what you like is what all pax like.

I, for one, am not a fan of herringbone/reverse herringbone. I much prefer the config that QF has gone with (and EK's A380 config, which is somewhat similar).

 

[under the radar]

QF could have gone for a reverse herringbone - same as CX uses. Arguably a better seat on CX and no delays due to certification. And same number of seats.

And reverse herrigbone is so much easier from a passenger perspective... no worrying about which aisle seat (ie up against the window, or against the aisle). All seats in all rows are the same.

But hey, this is about the airline, not the passenger right?

ANY airline wont please ALL the people ALL the time.. that's why there are CHOICES.. if you don't like it, go elsewhere... there will still be others to fill the seats because they prefer one particular seating 'arrangement' over other airlines' options

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Don't assume what you like is what all pax like.

I, for one, am not a fan of herringbone/reverse herringbone. I much prefer the config that QF has gone with (and EK's A380 config, which is somewhat similar).

That's a valid point! I suppose I should try the new seats. In 2017. When there will finally be a guarantee that you'll get it

 

[QFFHntrGthr]

Thanks. The QF seatmaps show something similar, but I was wondering what the reality was from those who have flown. Any photographs please?

We flew on EBS last week. Indeed, 4F/3K, 6F/5K and 8F/7K are aisled seat pairs that are almost aligned across the aisle. However with the privacy return, you won't be able to see each other's face and it's a bit difficult to converse across the aisle without disturbance to others or by the service cart and crew/pax movement. Quite frankly, for couples, I think the middle two seats are better if conversation is desired, they are closer together. Just don't forget you're not in a confessional. In both the across aisle and middle row seats, you'll both have to lean forward to see each other's face. Quite frankly, with the BIG screen, you'll probably be entertained more than you'd be chatting.
They are great fun, enjoy yourselves.

 

[Mrmaxwell]

Don't assume what you like is what all pax like.

I would assume that ALL would like a speedy fleet update...to think it will be almost 5 years once the refurb is completed since the initial press announcement is hilarious. Once completed they will need to announce the next refurb!

As the MNL route is getting no love I have booked CX via HKG for my next flight - that is how much I dislike the old hard seats on the current 333.

 

[moa999]

I would assume that ALL would like a speedy fleet update...to think it will be almost 5 years once the refurb is completed since the initial press announcement is hilarious. Once completed they will need to announce the next refurb!

T

Three years.. but hey.
Seats announced Aug 13
Final design Oct 14
Begin installation Dec 14
Complete installation Guessing around Aug 16

As for the next refurb,
I would expect whatever product goes into the 787-9s (arriving 2017/2018) (most likely to be a tweaked Business Suite),
will also go into the A380s, the earliest of which will be 10 years old (OQA/B/C being 2008 deliveries) along with a new F Suite and refreshed Y, plus hopefully WiFi throughout

 

[ajw373]

As the MNL route is getting no love I have booked CX via HKG for my next flight - that is how much I dislike the old hard seats on the current 333.

Ironic, considering it took 2 years for CX to upgrade their regional A330. First aircraft Sep 2012, last end 2014.

 

[mannej]

Ironic, considering it took 2 years for CX to upgrade their regional A330. First aircraft Sep 2012, last end 2014.

In terms of numbers, how many regional 330's did CX upgrade?