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I'm not a pilot but to be honest it's not a big deal. Keep in mind in Canada, 18 wheeler trucks will roll over ice bridges (or as you call it "solid water") all the time, as that's how you reach communities up north in the winter:
True, but I was thinking less about the load bearing of the surface but more about whether an aircraft "hull" is suitable for landing on snow, especially if the surface has hidden rocks.
 
Anyone know what happened with DL8259 (codeshare on AF) yesterday (16th Oct) from OPO to CDG? Flight never climbed above 24,000 and diverted to BDX. Friend was onboard and they were told what happened. She says something suspected to be wrong with the coughpit window affecting pressurisation.

I was in the very last row. Also took off late bc the incoming flight had someone on a stretcher and had issues offloading them. But I ended up sitting across from the giant metal stretcher.

20 min into the flight captain comes on and has everyone sit down and buckle in - flight attendants included. Can barely understand him even in English bc of the heavy accent.

Flight attendants start getting antsy. Speaking in French (no clue what), not allowing anyone to move. This lady came back to potty and they made her sit in the open seat next to the stretcher and buckle up. Wouldn’t let her pee or go back to sit with her husband. She and I are now trauma bonded. We cried out of sheer stress when we landed safely.

I put some smell good lotion on and they freaked out wondering where it came from. I told them and she even smelled my hands to make sure it was the right scent.

All the sudden the attendant stand up and start almost running down the aisle telling everyone to tighten their seat belts and start handing the passengers in the emergency exit rows pillows.

They sit back down and buckle in their 5 point harnesses and the lady I could see behind me was basically bracing herself under her legs with her hands and tapping her foot super nervously.

Absolutely terrifying.

We landed safely. Technical support people came out, fixed the window - and fixed the bathroom door, bc it kept falling off when someone opened it 😂. And we left. And everything was fine. Like it never happened.
 
Anyone know what happened with DL8259 (codeshare on AF) yesterday (16th Oct) from OPO to CDG?
Are you sure about that flight number? According to FR24, that ties to AF7320, which is a Paris to Nice flight, and didn't happen on the 16th.
Flight never climbed above 24,000 and diverted to BDX. Friend was onboard and they were told what happened. She says something suspected to be wrong with the coughpit window affecting pressurisation.
First thought would be that a window cracked. There are multiple layers to coughpit windows, and cracking of the outer layer is a non event. But, any cracking of an inner layer can compromise the window's strength. Issues with the window heating can lead to this.

None of this explains the cabin reaction...
 
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QF142 AKL - SYD (18/10) took a more northerly route. Would this be indicating a MEL or something similar that required a longer route to stay within ETOPs limits?
Non-ETOPS is one hour of flight time, and it does look like that flight path would given them that using Norfolk Island. Previous flights of the same aircraft have had normal tracks. U/S APU perhaps?
 
Are you sure about that flight number? According to FR24, that ties to AF7320, which is a Paris to Nice flight, and didn't happen on the 16th.

First thought would be that a window cracked. There are multiple layers to coughpit windows, and cracking of the outer layer is a non event. But, any cracking of an inner layer can compromise the window's strength. Issues with the window heating can lead to this.

None of this explains the cabin reaction...

Can confirm
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Looks like it was this AF1429 (AFR1429) Air France Flight Tracking and History 16-Oct-2024 (OPO / LPPR-CDG / LFPG) - FlightAware DL8259 - Delta Air Lines DL 8259 Flight Tracker

My understanding is if it was an inner layer they wouldn't have taken off again. They were on the ground for about an hour. I don't believe that would have been sufficient time to change windows, correct?
 
My understanding is if it was an inner layer they wouldn't have taken off again. They were on the ground for about an hour. I don't believe that would have been sufficient time to change windows, correct?
I don't have the MEL available, so I can't say whether you'd even be able to get relief for a cracked out pane. Any inner would definitely be a no go.

No work would have been done in an hour, but obviously it could be given a proper going over, which is somewhat difficult in the cruise. Replacing a windscreen takes an appreciable amount of time. If I recall correctly, there's a sealant that needs to cure for 24 hours or so, after completion of the nuts and bolts bit of the job.
 

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