Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[andye]

ACT Reff under 1 for last 3 days

 

[jakeseven7]

ACT Reff under 1 for last 3 days

Oh it’s going to come back across the ‘border’ anytime now, probably already has.

 

[justinbrett]

ACT Reff under 1 for last 3 days

However testing rates are very low, so probably not a lot of confidence in that.

Oh it’s going to come back across the ‘border’ anytime now, probably already has.

Let's not start this again:

Covid-19 sewage testing causes stink between ACT and NSW – video

'I don’t think the sewage detection is quite that sophisticated it is able to tell whether it was a Canberran’s poo, or someone else’s'

www.theguardian.com

But seriously lots of areas around Canberra in NSW have positive results.

 

[antycbr]

Oh it’s going to come back across the ‘border’ anytime now, probably already has.

The ACT effectively outsource all of the "essential workers" in logistics and food production to south west Sydney. Most supermarket trucks go straight from DCs in Sydney to store for example. Same for fuel supplies etc.

 

[MARTINE]

Will happily give Queensland a very wide berth until she is no longer leading the state.

Yes ….remember the rules that ‘Queensland Hospitals are for Queenslanders‘ (my tweak ‘plus interstate footballers and WAGS’)
….but some good breaking news that 3 year old boy from Qld has been reunited with his parents.
…. must have been a dramatic shift in Doherty modelling uncovered by Janastacia.

Three-year-old boy granted exemption to cross NSW-Queensland border and return home

www.9news.com.au

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Please correct me if I am wrong but my understanding is that by reducing AZ to 6 weeks severely effects its efficacy.

... more a question than a statement.

The key word there is severely. At 6 weeks the efficacy is not severely effected and it still provides good protection.

The medical advice is that the second AZ dose can be from 4 weeks on. 12 weeks is believed to give better long-term protection, and based on recent reports superior to Pfizer.

With active community cases the advice in Australia is that 6 weeks for the second dose is a good balance, and highly protective with the Delta Strain. This is why both NSW and Vic now have allowed AZ at 6 weeks.

Should I reduce the interval between my 1st and 2nd Astra Zeneca COVID 19 Vaccination doses? – Gerringong Medical Practice

gerringonggp.com.au

We now know that one dose does not protect you well from the Delta-variant currently circulating in Sydney. The 2nd dose gives you much higher protection against serious illness, hospitalisation and death. People can receive the second dose of AstraZeneca vaccine earlier to achieve better protection more quickly. We are now booking 2nd doses at 6 weeks.​

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However, getting your 2nd dose sooner than the original 12 weeks does have an impact of the effectiveness of the vaccine. If you reduce the dose interval you will still have good protection from severe illness but it does increase your chance of having symptoms if you contract the COVID-19 virus.​

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The other point of relevance is that boosters are going to be rolled out, and so better long-term protection will be provided when you have that. It now also seems that for those that had Pfizer that that third dose will be vital. Probably less important (though still important) for those with AZ at 12 weeks.

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And from a non-health perspective those that are fully vaxxed in at least some jurisdictions will soon have access to an increasing number of advantages/benefits.

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[justinbrett]

Yes ….remember the rules that ‘Queensland Hospitals are for Queenslanders‘ (my tweak ‘plus interstate footballers and WAGS’)
….but some good breaking news that 3 year old boy from Qld has been reunited with his parents.
…. must have been a dramatic shift in Doherty modelling uncovered by Janastacia.

Three-year-old boy granted exemption to cross NSW-Queensland border and return home

www.9news.com.au

I'm pretty sure it's the family's fault. They should know that the exemptions process must go via the Courier Mail in order to be considered.

 

[33kft]

To further QLD's woes today. This must tick every box in terms of what will set the punters off.

School to isolate as family refuse tests

Queensland’s golden run of containing the Delta virus is in jeopardy after a new local case had been infectious in the community for five days and a family refused to be tested after sneaking into the state from Melbourne.

www.news.com.au

 

[MARTINE]

To further QLD's woes today. This must tick every box in terms of what will set the punters off.

School to isolate as family refuse tests

Queensland’s golden run of containing the Delta virus is in jeopardy after a new local case had been infectious in the community for five days and a family refused to be tested after sneaking into the state from Melbourne.

www.news.com.au

How does one ‘sneak into’ Qld?

 

[Must...Fly!]

How does one ‘sneak into’ Qld?

Good question. One might ask how covid "snuck" out of China as well. Wherever there are people, people move. Where people move, diseases move.

 

[Princess Fiona]

Please correct me if I am wrong but my understanding is that by reducing AZ to 6 weeks severely effects its efficacy.

... more a question than a statement.

The rationale for shortening the dosing interval is a bit complex but in short.

One dose of a vaccine (either AZ or Pfizer) isn’t as effective at preventing symptomatic disease against Delta as previous variants.
Two doses is much more effective against symptomatic disease.
The initial trials showed that a 12 week interval was optimal for AZ in maximizing the effectiveness against symptomatic disease.

Some real world data regardless of the various AZ dosing intervals being deployed (Malaysia, Canada, UK, Ireland are just some of the countries that have shortened their intervals due to outbreaks):

Two doses of AZ (and indeed Pfizer) give you 1/20th the risk of dying if you do contract Covid.
Thats the reason in an outbreak to get as many people as possible to have two doses as quickly as possible.
Other issues which may arise, waning effectiveness etc can be dealt with down the track with boosters as long as we can get as many people as possible out of hospital and not dying.

 

[jakeseven7]

How does one ‘sneak into’ Qld?

Pretty easily actually. Asking for a friend or yourself?

 

[antycbr]

Pretty easily actually. Asking for a friend or yourself?

How good are you at Rugby League? Or are you prepared to masquerade as a WAG?

 

[Pom-DownUnder]

I wonder if the premiers arguing for the inclusion of younger cohort to be rolled into the 80% realise they could well be risking MORE deaths.

Barr in ACT
Pala in QLD
McGowan in WA

There are certainly still some elderly that are hesitant for one reason or another, I would surmise that a number of those elderly are 'waiting' to get Pfizer. Those elderly people are at a significantly higher risk than the under 18s and they should be lining up for AZ as soon as they possibly can, but it seems like some are waiting for pfizer.

The opening and i would almost say clamour to get kids vaccinated will make compeition for pfizer stronger than ever, this will result in some delays for people that are (mistakenly imo) waiting for pfizer rather than AZ.

If you look at a jab serving a 'purpose' of how likely it will save someones life, those jabs serve the best purpose in the elderly, these premiers pushing for young people to be involved earlier rather than being as a 'fill and finish' to the vaccination program are not (in my opinion) the white knights that they think they are.

 

[MARTINE]

How good are you at Rugby League? Or are you prepared to masquerade as a WAG?

I’m just surprised given so many people can’t get home to Qld, see loved ones etc , border control …. I was genuinely intrigued. Having cancelled 3 trips in 12 months - I will not go to Qld until certainty and sense prevails ……………ie I will not go to qld

 

[Must...Fly!]

I wonder if the premiers arguing for the inclusion of younger cohort to be rolled into the 80% realise they could well be risking MORE deaths.

I would contend that anyone encouraging inclusion of the younger cohort and/or waiting for vaccines to be available for children have little interest in the holistic well being of their citizens.

 

[Ric]

I’m just surprised given so many people can’t get home to Qld, see loved ones etc , border control …. I was genuinely intrigued. Having cancelled 3 trips in 12 months - I will not go to Qld until certainty and sense prevails ……………ie I will not go to qld

It is still Joh's country and the curtains will still fade faster when daylight saving hrs are introduced!

 

[SydneySwan]

Yes ….remember the rules that ‘Queensland Hospitals are for Queenslanders‘ (my tweak ‘plus interstate footballers and WAGS’)
….but some good breaking news that 3 year old boy from Qld has been reunited with his parents.
…. must have been a dramatic shift in Doherty modelling uncovered by Janastacia.

Three-year-old boy granted exemption to cross NSW-Queensland border and return home

www.9news.com.au

I understand the 3 year old was drafted by the Brisbane Broncos to get around the rules.

 

[justinbrett]

I understand the 3 year old was drafted by the Brisbane Broncos to get around the rules.

That won't help, their season is finished. No QLD teams in the all-QLD finals year!

 

[SydneySwan]

That won't help, their season is finished. No QLD teams in the all-QLD finals year!

Broncos are playing the Knights this Saturday at 3pm at Suncorp Stadium. The 3 year old is 18th man.

At least one of these sentences is completely true.