Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

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Seems like federal Labor has crunched the numbers and continue to endorse the National Plan - very good news

 
Seems like federal Labor has crunched the numbers and continue to endorse the National Plan - very good news

Was wondering last night how long this would take. Good stuff
 
Seems like federal Labor has crunched the numbers and continue to endorse the National Plan - very good news

I don't know a lot about politics but isn't there some way her own party can kick her out and put another Labor in her place? Someone who is more reasonable about borders?
 
Curfews definitely dont, the areas that have curfews in Sydney still have rising case numbers, so having very little effect if any at all. Fairfield had declining cases numbers but have started rising again significantly since curfew was introduced.
As said I doubt curfews are significant (and they feel too authoritarian to me) but rising numbers prove nothing as you don't know if they would have risen more without.

There is a lot if focus on how if only people behaved perfectly we could get to zero. However,even if true, people are not perfect and this has to be accepted in the pragmatic management.
 
I don't know a lot about politics but isn't there some way her own party can kick her out and put another Labor in her place? Someone who is more reasonable about borders?
If you look around the country at other state Premiers you realise your odds of improving are very low and could just as easily go the other way.
 
Or Melbourne.

It's kind of ridiculous to see numbers rising and assume that they wouldn't be rising more if not for what's being done.
Interestingly numbers jumped around a week after protests but impacts not discussed
observation … not judgement.
please don’t shoot this messenger
my brain aches…😱
 
Interestingly numbers jumped around a week after protests but impacts not discussed
observation … not judgement.
please don’t shoot this messenger
my brain aches…😱
Protests probably had spread/transmission in both Sydney and Melbourne. In Sydney apparently the protesters won’t tell contact tracing that information. I’m guessing the same happening in Melbourne.

In Sydney West Hoxton party was the killer. In Melbourne it was the school.
 
I don't think it's the protests per say but probably the image they convey to the wider population and really amplifies the fatigue factor in people's minds. Which is probably a reflection of the restrictions and government talk/policy more so than the protesters themselves. Just my 2c.
 
QLD Premier and CHO are doing what I would term some embarrassing back-pedaling this morning on a number of issues including vaccination, quarantine for domestic travelers and opening the state.

From ABC

When asked at what point she would be "comfortable" reopening the state, Chief Health Officer Jeannette Young says:
"When every single Queenslander has been given the opportunity to be vaccinated."
"So it's up to individuals to choose whether they wish to protect themselves and people make choices about a whole range of things every single day.
"So once every single Queenslander who is part of the vaccine rollout, who is eligible … once they have had the opportunity then of course we make decisions but I don't want to see the virus coming into Queensland without mitigating factors until that happens."
 
NSW 1431, 12 deaths.

Apart from the 30 year old, were the other deaths fully vaccinated? They normally say if they were unvaccinated and died - today they only said that for the 30 year old?
 
I wonder at what point do they stop reading out the details of each age, area and gender, especially if the forecast was up to 80 people each day.
Yes, but at least we don't read out the names like used to happen in the UK at one stage.
 
In Sydney West Hoxton party was the killer. In Melbourne it was the school.

No, Al Taqwa was only one of the transmission chains birthed from the Teacher and probably one of the better controlled ones

The real key was the traffic controller who was too lazy to walk to the staff toilets, and so went to the nearer toilets for people presenting for testing who could not hold on. He was linked to a person who had a positive test there.

He then continued on the outbreak which was found on 13 July by visiting Altona North and Footscray. He then infected his partner who lived in that area and had a number of exposure sites sprinkled in those suburbs. Now there may also have been other possible transmission chains grumbling away, but it was then the teacher and her family who really kicked the outbreak along.

The teacher (Al Taqwa), her partner and one set of parents (not sure if it was his or hers) were infectious for 8 to 10 days before being found. One of her exposure sites was 200m from the 7/11 that the traffic controller was at. Though he was at multiple other sites in the vicinity of the teacher, her husband and the parents..

No cases were initially found and it was thought by the Vic Gov that the transmission chains were broken apart from those in quarantine, and so the lockdown was ended. Whereas what had been occurring was that cases were busily growing. some may have been asymptomatic, but a number were symptomatic and who not only did not go and get tested, but went to work, socialise and played football.

By the time the teacher was found to be positive, she and her parents, and the parents had already infected people far and wide. Al Taqwa and 2 other schools, Caroline Springs SC, Newport Football Club etc.

In this outbreak at this time what also started to occur was the same as in the Vic Second Wave (or in NSW after it left Bondi and went westwards) it was in back in a demographic where households that tend to larger, are very interconnected and who critically have many more people who do not present for testing when symptomatic (for all sorts of reasons), and who even if symptomatic still went about actively mixing and interreacting with people.

Exposures sites with up a week or more of infectious periods started to appear. And

So at Day 53 in Vic it has hit 1860 cases (2 different metro lockdowns and 2 regional lockdowns). Vic Second Wave (which had 3 distinct lockdown periods within it, the first being a limited LGA lockdown) at 53 days it was 3550 cases, and NSW (multiple lockdowns including LGA and more lately regional too) current wave 5181 cases.
 
NSW Premier confirming their modelling that in 2 weeks time will be the peak of cases and 2 weeks later peak of hospitalisation (no mention specifically of peak for ICU). Modelling to be released next week. More details of relaxations / road map next week?!?!
 
No, Al Taqwa was only one of the transmission chains birthed from the Teacher and probably one of the better controlled ones

The real key was the traffic controller who was too lazy to walk to the staff toilets, and so went to the nearer toilets for people presenting for testing who could not hold on. He was linked to a person who had a positive test there.

He then continued on the outbreak which was found on 13 July by visiting Altona North and Footscray. He then infected his partner who lived in that area and had a number of exposure sites sprinkled in those suburbs. Now there may also have been other possible transmission chains grumbling away, but it was then the teacher and her family who really kicked the outbreak along.

The teacher (Al Taqwa), her partner and one set of parents (not sure if it was his or hers) were infectious for 8 to 10 days before being found. One of her exposure sites was 200m from the 7/11 that the traffic controller was at. Though he was at multiple other sites in the vicinity of the teacher, her husband and the parents..

No cases were initially found and it was thought by the Vic Gov that the transmission chains were broken apart from those in quarantine, and so the lockdown was ended. Whereas what had been occurring was that cases were busily growing. some may have been asymptomatic, but a number were symptomatic and who not only did not go and get tested, but went to work, socialise and played football.

By the time the teacher was found to be positive, she and her parents, and the parents had already infected people far and wide. Al Taqwa and 2 other schools, Caroline Springs SC, Newport Football Club etc.

In this outbreak at this time what also started to occur was the same as in the Vic Second Wave (or in NSW after it left Bondi and went westwards) it was in back in a demographic where households that tend to larger, are very interconnected and who critically have many more people who do not present for testing when symptomatic (for all sorts of reasons), and who even if symptomatic still went about actively mixing and interreacting with people.

Exposures sites with up a week or more of infectious periods started to appear. And

So at Day 53 in Vic it has hit 1860 cases (2 different metro lockdowns and 2 regional lockdowns). Vic Second Wave (which had 3 distinct lockdown periods within it, the first being a limited LGA lockdown) at 53 days it was 3550 cases, and NSW (multiple lockdowns including LGA and more lately regional too) current wave 5181 cases.
OK, so is your point of no return was one person earlier???
 
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