Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Qld contract tracing webpage was updated tonight at 5:30pm with 9 additional locations marked “new” in Springfield, Underwood, Springwood and Yamato for 29 to 31 August (ie Logan and Ipswich)

Please check out Contact tracing — coronavirus (COVID-19)

 

[Flying mermaid]

Here you go then. As of today SA is currently Covid free with no active cases.

We have had no active cases for a month or more, but apparently we are still a hotspot.....

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

We have had no active cases for a month or more, but apparently we are still a hotspot.....

Not necessarily having a go at ACT, more about the emerging inconsistency of hotspots, but ACT prevents non-ACT residents from the hotspot of Victoria, even though it seems (haven’t checked against absolute data) Regional Victoria has less active cases and less new daily cases than Sydney and in the context of minimal travel from Melbourne to regional Victoria.

 

[drron]

This is just so wrong at many levels.AFL execs can cross borders easily.BLM protestors can mmarch with no worries about arrests but a pregnant woman who posts on facebook about the lockdown protest has police come into her home,arrest and handcuff her and then seize computers and mobile phones.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1301073340128321538

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

This is just so wrong at many levels.AFL execs can cross borders easily.BLM protestors can mmarch with no worries about arrests but a pregnant woman who posts on facebook about the lockdown protest has police come into her home,arrest and handcuff her and then seize computers and mobile phones.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1301073340128321538

And high profile John ‘Sam’ Newman got away with technically a question-statement ‘how about...’

 

[p--and--t]

This is just so wrong at many levels.AFL execs can cross borders easily.BLM protestors can mmarch with no worries about arrests but a pregnant woman who posts on facebook about the lockdown protest has police come into her home,arrest and handcuff her and then seize computers and mobile phones.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1301073340128321538

A rather emotive description and reaction you put in front of the tweet and cross reference to unrelated and irrelevant matters.

Is "pregnant woman" who commits an offence any different to "a woman" who commits an offence?
Is "a woman" who commits an offence any different to "a man" who commits an offence?
Would the outage have been expressed the same if it was a non-Caucasian male who looked a bit scruffy who was arrested in the street?
Does it make a difference whether he/she was arrested at home or at the shops or at the library? (We are in lock down with a curfew so at home is where she would most logically be and legally she shouldn't be anywhere else at night unless at the hospital}.
I have never been arrested, but it would appear from TV series on the subject, people that are arrested, even if under suspicion of drink driving get hand cuffed, why would this be different given the alleged offence is much more serious under the law?
Other than the edited clip to create maximum clickbait, are you aware of what transpired beforehand?
Collection of evidence is a mandatory process for any investigation and report to the magistrate, why would they not do this for a jailable offence?
Since when have officers who have been tasked with an arrest warrant have the discretion to just say, she's right, say sorry and we will walk away - are arrest warrants now negotiable?
Wasn't it rather convenient and a lucky co-incidence that they had a camera all set up ready to record the "confrontation" and negotiation.
Are you aware of what she posted to cause concern and a legal warrant to be issued for her arrest, to make a judgement on how bad it was, whether she was the main instigator or not and whether the arrest was warranted?

I'll wait for the facts of the matter to come out first.

 

[Must...Fly!]

This is just so wrong at many levels.AFL execs can cross borders easily.BLM protestors can mmarch with no worries about arrests but a pregnant woman who posts on facebook about the lockdown protest has police come into her home,arrest and handcuff her and then seize computers and mobile phones.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1301073340128321538

Anger doesn't begin to describe my thoughts on this act by Victorian police

 

[Princess Fiona]

A rather emotive description and reaction you put in front of the tweet and cross reference to unrelated and irrelevant matters.

Is "pregnant woman" who commits an offence any different to "a woman" who commits an offence?
Is "a woman" who commits an offence any different to "a man" who commits an offence?
Would the outage have been expressed the same if it was a non-Caucasian male who looked a bit stuffy who was arrested in the street?
Does it make a difference whether he/she was arrested at home or at the shops or at the library? (We are in lock down with a curfew so at home is where she would most logically be and legally she shouldn't be anywhere else at night unless at the hospital}.
I have never been arrested, but it would appear from TV series on the subject, people that are arrested, even if under suspicion of drink driving get hand cuffed, why would this be different given the alleged offence is much more serious under the law?
Other than the edited clip to create maximum clickbait, are you aware of what transpired beforehand?
Collection of evidence is a mandatory process for any investigation and report to the magistrate, why would they not do this for a jailable offence?
Since when have officers who have been tasked with an arrest warrant have the discretion to just say, she's right, say sorry and we will walk away - are arrest warrants now negotiable?
Wasn't it rather convenient and a lucky co-incidence that they had a camera all set up ready to record the "confrontation" and negotiation.
Are you aware of what she posted to cause concern and a legal warrant to be issued for her arrest, to make a judgement on how bad it was, whether she was the main instigator or not and whether the arrest was warranted?

I'll wait for the facts of the matter to come out first.

Yep I’m inclined to agree.

 

[jase05]

Anger doesn't begin to describe my thoughts on this act by Victorian police

Are we sure it’s 100% legit?
We have a couple of SAPOL personnel involved in my local footy club and after training tonight there was some discussion over that footage and they were both of the opinion that it seemed “fake”. Obviously some procedural differences between states but they both said it just didn’t seem right. I believe there is at least one member on here who was once a police officer, I wonder what their thoughts are

 

[dajop]

This is just so wrong at many levels.AFL execs can cross borders easily.BLM protestors can mmarch with no worries about arrests but a pregnant woman who posts on facebook about the lockdown protest has police come into her home,arrest and handcuff her and then seize computers and mobile phones.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1301073340128321538

Anger doesn't begin to describe my thoughts on this act by Victorian police

I'm not entirely sure that what is reported is the full story. I saw this, and immediately sounds pretty shocking that the arrest happened, my initial reaction was similar.

But I do wonder if there was some baiting going on, and the police took that bait hook, line and sinker. Think about what is a more effective in eliciting sympathy .... a protest (ho hum another lot of protestors, out protesting whilst people are stuck at home), or a *pregnant woman* shock horror being arrested in their home. I wonder if actions were undertaken to deliberately orchestrate the arrest, thus driving an outrage reaction?

 

[Must...Fly!]

Are we sure it’s 100% legit?
We have a couple of SAPOL personnel involved in my local footy club and after training tonight there was some discussion over that footage and they were both of the opinion that it seemed “fake”. Obviously some procedural differences between states but they both said it just didn’t seem right. I believe there is at least one member on here who was once a police officer, I wonder what their thoughts are

I can see the firearm on the belt on at least one officer. The lanyard and ID also look to be typical Vicpol standard issue.

 

[p--and--t]

Are we sure it’s 100% legit?
We have a couple of SAPOL personnel involved in my local footy club and after training tonight there was some discussion over that footage and they were both of the opinion that it seemed “fake”. Obviously some procedural differences between states but they both said it just didn’t seem right. I believe there is at least one member on here who was once a police officer, I wonder what their thoughts are

On reviewing the footage, of course I can't be certain, but it looked plausible. The reason for arrest is also plausible.

The facts of the matter are yet to be determined.

It is potentially related to the following, we will find out in the fullness of time:

We are in the second wave under stage 4 lockdown in Melbourne with curfews and stage three for the rest of the state. The reason we are locked down, people losing jobs, suffering mental stress, considering suicide, in intensive care, isolated from their loved ones and losing $B are ostensibly because of people who ignored the health directives and thought they didn't apply to them. They gathered in large groups and partied when they had been directed not to, went to work when they were directed not to, left their homes and socialised when they knew they were infected, went to supermarkets and bunnings etc and deliberately tried to pick fights, actively tried to incite discontent, drove half way to Sydney to "buy a burger", drove 140km while in lockdown to "catch a wave, held drunken birthday bashes with 50 people when supposed to be in isolation, bashed police officers in the street. Consequently many 1000s have been infected and 500 have died and 10,000s of lives changed forever having lost partners, mothers, fathers, grandmothers, grandfathers, brothers, sisters, sons and daughters..

Multiple repeated warnings have been given and fines issued for repeat and blatant offenders and trouble makers and still there is an ongoing under current of deliberate civil disobedience by a select few who believe they are above the law, who are keeping the rest of us under restrictions because of their actions.

New regulations were passed and well communicated to one and all that the police would no longer be showing tolerance and organisers of illegal events would be jailed.

 

[Flying mermaid]

Not necessarily having a go at ACT, more about the emerging inconsistency of hotspots, but ACT prevents non-ACT residents from the hotspot of Victoria, even though it seems (haven’t checked against absolute data) Regional Victoria has less active cases and less new daily cases than Sydney and in the context of minimal travel from Melbourne to regional Victoria.

Anyone arriving in the ACT from Victoria has to quarantine for 14 days. The main reason for declaring ACT a hotspot was because a Queenslander travelled to Sydney via ACT and return. And then claimed on their form that they had only been in ACT. AP spat the dummy and declared ACT a hotspot as well.....

 

[antycbr]

Anyone arriving in the ACT from Victoria has to quarantine for 14 days. The main reason for declaring ACT a hotspot was because a Queenslander travelled to Sydney via ACT and return. And then claimed on their form that they had only been in ACT. AP spat the dummy and declared ACT a hotspot as well.....

Once again seems to be a problem with Queenslanders doing the wrong thing - seems to be the most common problem leading to spread in Queensland!

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Anyone arriving in the ACT from Victoria has to quarantine for 14 days. The main reason for declaring ACT a hotspot was because a Queenslander travelled to Sydney via ACT and return. And then claimed on their form that they had only been in ACT. AP spat the dummy and declared ACT a hotspot as well.....

I must have read the information wrongly about ACT having effectively a hard border with Victoria for everyone other than ACT residents.

In any case SA and NSW are in the process of starting to open their borders to border bubbles at the moment.


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Travelling to the ACT from Victoria
Under a Public Health Direction, anyone (other than ACT residents) travelling into the ACT from Victoria will be denied entry to the ACT unless they are granted an exemption by ACT Health.

Please be advised that due to NSW updating their border restrictions for travel from Victoria, entry to the ACT from Victoria is now only possible through Canberra Airport, by air. The NSW Public Health Direction can be viewed at the NSW Department of Health website.

Air travel
ACT residents can return home from Victoria by air but are required to enter quarantine until 14 days after leaving Victoria. ACT residents must notify ACT Health of their intention to return. This notification should be made as early as possible, and at least 72 hours before the intended travel date, wherever possible.

Anyone who is not an ACT resident, but wishes to enter the ACT from Victoria for an exceptional reason, must apply for an exemption. Applications should be submitted as early as possible, and at least 72 hours before the intended travel date, wherever possible.

All incoming passengers from Victoria will be met at the airport and required to provide evidence that they are an ACT resident and have notified ACT Health of their return to the ACT, or that they have been granted an exemption to enter the ACT for exceptional reasons.

Depending on circumstances, ACT residents and those granted exemptions to enter the ACT from Victoria may quarantine at home, or in a hotel approved by ACT Health. Shared accommodation (such as university accommodation) is not a suitable quarantine facility. For more information on quarantine, please visit our Quarantine page.

Entering and leaving the ACT

Rules and restrictions for entry to ACT apply when an COVID-19 areas of concern notice identifies affected areas and places of concern.

www.covid19.act.gov.au

 

[drron]

The arrest happened in Ballarat not Melbourne.
Good to see those that believe a police state is necessary.It is why the Emergency powers were needed to be extended.
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There is another video out there of a fellow that forgot to put his bin outside .remembered about 9pm and put it out so arrested for breaking curfew.

What about a warning or do in Victoria police not have that ability.

As to how it was filmed there would be very few young adults without easy access to a phone.

 

[RooFlyer]

Slowly, slowly, there is some push back in the PDR Tasmania on the ultra-conservatism of First Secretary Gutwein in keeping borders closed AND restrictions on gatherings until 'at least' December 1, when we've not had community transmission for months, according to the report in the local Mercury. I mentioned before that the state Chief Medical Officer had mentioned "people are afraid" as one of the reasons for his advice to the government to keep present restrictions in place.

DECEMBER 1 has been “plucked” as an arbitrary date for the state’s borders to reopen and the perception about fears of a second wave of COVID-19 cannot continually be used as a reason to keep them shut, the tourism industry’s peak lobby group says.

Luke Martin of the Tourism Industry Council of Tasmania has questioned the justification for the state’s prolonged border closures, saying they had struck a different type of fear into tourism operators.

“It seems to be that we’re making decisions now based on managing people’s concerns and anxiety about the risk of getting the virus in the state,’’ he said.

“We’ve just plucked an arbitrary date three months down the track, based on what — advice about public anxiety? I don’t know how sustainable that is.”


But the public still supports the First Secretary big time, so its unlikely he'll be for turning anytime soon:

A voting intentions poll of 1000 adult Tasmanians conducted by EMRS showed 70 per cent of respondents had Peter Gutwein as their preferred premier, up from 63 per cent in May and 41 per cent in March.

Conversely, 23 per cent preferred Labor leader Rebecca White, down from 26 per cent in May and 39 per cent in March.

Respondents were more likely (54 per cent) to vote Liberal than in March (43 per cent), while support for Labor decreased from 34 to 24 per cent in the same period.

 

[RooFlyer]

Is "pregnant woman" who commits an offence any different to "a woman" who commits an offence?
Is "a woman" who commits an offence any different to "a man" who commits an offence?
Would the outage have been expressed the same if it was a non-Caucasian male who looked a bit scruffy who was arrested in the street?

My 2 cents worth:

Is "pregnant woman" who commits an offence any different to "a woman" who commits an offence? Most definitely yes; there is more than one person involved. For instance, I would hope she wouldn't be handled roughly and even if resisting arrest, more latitude given than, say, a young man. Yes, folks, I'm that sexist.

Is "a woman" who commits an offence any different to "a man" who commits an offence? Not sure what the scare quotes are for, but no for me, unless she is pregnant.

Would the outage have been expressed the same if it was a non-Caucasian male who looked a bit scruffy who was arrested in the street? Potentially more so, under certain cases, but I'm not going there.

 

[Pushka]

Are we sure it’s 100% legit?
We have a couple of SAPOL personnel involved in my local footy club and after training tonight there was some discussion over that footage and they were both of the opinion that it seemed “fake”. Obviously some procedural differences between states but they both said it just didn’t seem right. I believe there is at least one member on here who was once a police officer, I wonder what their thoughts are

I think it is legit although I'd have expected them to be wearing gloves in a covid lockdown. I'm extremely surprised it has led to an arrest and not a report. She would have been taken to the Police Cells and charged but we didnt hear about any of that. Taking the post down would not have prevented the arrest/report, I'm just surprised in these fragile times it has come to this. The world is in a bad place right now.

Remember it is only a video of what the so called offenders want us to see. We didnt see any pre or post activity.

Do Police in Victoria wear their Badges in a Lanyard? Seems a weird and risky thing to be doing and so easy for an offender to simply grab it and yank it off. Maybe I've been out of the force for way too many years but I seriously dont think thats a good idea.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Victoria 113 new cases and 15 deaths