Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[Must...Fly!]

Victoria 113 new cases and 15 deaths

Unsurprising. This isn't going away (i.e. <50 a day for a sustained period) any time soon.

 

[SydneySwan]

Slowly, slowly, there is some push back in the PDR Tasmania on the ultra-conservatism of First Secretary Gutwein in keeping borders closed AND restrictions on gatherings until 'at least' December 1, when we've not had community transmission for months, according to the report in the local Mercury.

I must have missed the memo. When did the DPRT become the PDRT and Dear Leader the First Secretary Gutwein?

Or has there been a coup? Weren't the People's Front of Judea and the Judean People's Front sworn enemies?

 

[Bundy Bear]

Unsurprising. This isn't going away (i.e. <50 a day for a sustained period) any time soon.

113 new cases is amazingly high for a place that is completely locked down.

About the only reason it would be this high if it was in a hospital type setting.

These numbers are what is scaring medical chiefs in the other states.

Over the past few years there has been a running joke about Victoria being referred to the DPRV, Democratic Peoples Republic of Victoria.

Don't wish to hard or it might just come true.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Qld 2 new cases, linked to each other, including a staff member at the Karinya Place aged care home at Laidley, west of Brisbane. Expected to be linked to exisiting clusters.

 

[jase05]

Unsurprising. This isn't going away (i.e. <50 a day for a sustained period) any time soon.

Isn’t there an outbreak at the Bulla factory in Colac?
Think I heard 10 cases yesterday so perhaps that has ballooned

 

[blackcat20]

113 new cases is amazingly high for a place that is completely locked down.

About the only reason it would be this high if it was in a hospital type setting.

These numbers are what is scaring medical chiefs in the other states.

Over the past few years there has been a running joke about Victoria being referred to the DPRV, Democratic Peoples Republic of Victoria.

Don't wish to hard or it might just come true.

We're not completely locked down though. You can still go to the supermarket, and many people can still go to work. Heck, I travel 50km to work. It's still spreading amongst HCW and in aged care homes.

 

[jase05]

Isn’t there an outbreak at the Bulla factory in Colac?
Think I heard 10 cases yesterday so perhaps that has ballooned

Edit
Sorry, just mentioned on radio that there were 10 new cases in the Colac region and only 1 worker from the Bulla factory currently

 

[lovetravellingoz]

We're not completely locked down though. You can still go to the supermarket, and many people can still go to work. Heck, I travel 50km to work. It's still spreading amongst HCW and in aged care homes.

Yes, Level 4 in Vic while very restricted is no where near as restrictive as NZ was in its lockdown.

Most food outlets are open. In NZ it was mainly supermarkets. ie Butchers all closed.

Large construction projects are at about 25%. House construction limited to max 5 people per site. In NZ virtually all construction was ceased.

A number of manufacturing businesses are still operating. Though again at restricted levels.

Regional Vic also has less restrictions than GMMA.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Well 113 new cases today is not good. Not so much for the actual day's total as any one single day can be misleading, but rather as it is the third day in a row of being higher. however as per the second graph below daily figures do bounce around somewhat.

The next 3 days should show if this is an aberration, or whether it is the case curve flattening out (ie going sideways and not down).

One wonders if this rise is perhaps linked to last Saturday where a warm perfect day saw many people out an about in situations more crowded than desired (ie along beach promenades and at outdoor street food markets (not where I would shop at present!).


This is now pointing towards that the Sunday Roadmap announcement will be somewhat harder/slower out than we would have been hoping for 3 days ago as the hints Sutton was giving was that he was hoping that this Sunday that cases would be about 50 by Sunday and such a figure is no looking problematic..





Cases on a per day basis over the last 14 days.

 

[dajop]

The arrest happened in Ballarat not Melbourne.
Good to see those that believe a police state is necessary. .....

What about a warning or do in Victoria police not have that ability.

As to how it was filmed there would be very few young adults without easy access to a phone.

The Ballarat arrest apparently was “live-streamed”. I’m still not convinced that it wasn’t a setup. In the same way old fashioned protesters provoke the police to get arrested and get media coverage.

The guy with the bins was warned, not arrested by the police. They apparently questioned him as he had stopped to text when putting them out the bins. I wonder how long he had been outside texting, it seems a coincidence that the police just happened to be coming along the moment he was doing so.

The police reaction did sound heavy handed but I don’t know if it’s that wise to start texting on the street during a curfew and when you could just take a few seconds to back to your property to do the same. Also, not excusing the police actions, but it also sounds like he was being a bit provocative too:

Man confronted by police 'for taking out the bins' after curfew

A Melbourne man, who took his bins out after the curfew claims police 'harassed' him on his property.

au.news.yahoo.com

But it is unsurprising how an “warning” turns into an arrest when it hits the rumour mill.

Also, I have no doubt that despite the good work of the vast majority, that some police would abuse their powers, so that’s entirely possible. The good thing that has happened in Victoria, that wouldn’t happen in a proper police state is that some arrests have been reviewed and withdrawn after being reported to the media or on social media.

 

[jakeseven7]

113 new cases is amazingly high for a place that is completely locked down.

About the only reason it would be this high if it was in a hospital type setting.

We don't know what the detail is behind the numbers so lets not all panic just yet, please don't spook our already struggling CHO's in some states

 

[lovetravellingoz]

We don't know what the detail is behind the numbers so lets not all panic just yet

Yes things can bounce around a lot due a new cluster etc.

1 in 3 of today's cases are health care workers (ie all health care workers - hospitals to aged care)

 

[Flying mermaid]

I must have read the information wrongly about ACT having effectively a hard border with Victoria for everyone other than ACT residents.

In any case SA and NSW are in the process of starting to open their borders to border bubbles at the moment.


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Travelling to the ACT from Victoria
Under a Public Health Direction, anyone (other than ACT residents) travelling into the ACT from Victoria will be denied entry to the ACT unless they are granted an exemption by ACT Health.

Please be advised that due to NSW updating their border restrictions for travel from Victoria, entry to the ACT from Victoria is now only possible through Canberra Airport, by air. The NSW Public Health Direction can be viewed at the NSW Department of Health website.

Air travel
ACT residents can return home from Victoria by air but are required to enter quarantine until 14 days after leaving Victoria. ACT residents must notify ACT Health of their intention to return. This notification should be made as early as possible, and at least 72 hours before the intended travel date, wherever possible.

Anyone who is not an ACT resident, but wishes to enter the ACT from Victoria for an exceptional reason, must apply for an exemption. Applications should be submitted as early as possible, and at least 72 hours before the intended travel date, wherever possible.

All incoming passengers from Victoria will be met at the airport and required to provide evidence that they are an ACT resident and have notified ACT Health of their return to the ACT, or that they have been granted an exemption to enter the ACT for exceptional reasons.

Depending on circumstances, ACT residents and those granted exemptions to enter the ACT from Victoria may quarantine at home, or in a hotel approved by ACT Health. Shared accommodation (such as university accommodation) is not a suitable quarantine facility. For more information on quarantine, please visit our Quarantine page.

Entering and leaving the ACT

Rules and restrictions for entry to ACT apply when an COVID-19 areas of concern notice identifies affected areas and places of concern.

www.covid19.act.gov.au

Pretty hard to manage which bit of regional Victoria is currently virus free and which not - while I take your point about ACT restricted Victoria so it’s fine for Queensland to do the same to ACT it is still ludicrous to call ACT a hotspot and I see the cases as very different. ACT is quarantining and managing cases very carefully - they even asked people who had visited certain Sydney and South Coast locations to quarantine. Is regional Victoria quarantining any other visitors from other regions? There are some travel restrictions but if someone travels to Melbourne or another area with cases, for a valid reason, do they quarantine for 14 days on return?

 

[lovetravellingoz]

We don't know what the detail is behind the numbers so lets not all panic just yet, please don't spook our already struggling CHO's in some states

Speaking of detail, I just looked at the daily test total and saw 82,309 !!!!!!

However evidently: A backlog of negative tests has been added to the coughulative total (+82,309) 17,098 overnight

Daily tests had been 10 to 14 thousand recently.

Yesterday was 13,912 and the day prior 10,153 .

So seeing cases numbers higher each day on the back of daily test numbers of 10,153, (70) 13,912 (90) and 17,098 (113) is less surprising, or disappointing, than when you just look at the new case number per day in isolation.

 

[Must...Fly!]

We're not completely locked down though. You can still go to the supermarket, and many people can still go to work. Heck, I travel 50km to work. It's still spreading amongst HCW and in aged care homes.

Exactly. It's out there, we have to learn to live with it IMO.

History will look back on the initial lockdowns as an abject failure when you consider the end result of where we are now (worldwide) and money spent/economies destroyed.

 

[Lynda2475]

SMH.com.au reports "At this point in time, the trigger to open the border into NSW is when they have had two incubation periods [14 days each] of no community transmission," Dr Young told reporters on Thursday.

Guess NSW, Vic and by externsion ACT can forget about any travel to Qld untill about 90% of the population are fully vacinnated. Common sense would focus on how well cases are managed/contained once identified, not on zero cases. AP and Dr JY are so petty, NSW hasnt closed border to Queensland even though they have ongoing community transmission with no confirmed source.

 

[drron]

RooFlyer the PDRT could possibly be looking to back down a bit on the borders.
When I arrived in April the procedure was I would go straight to my accommodation and only leave to go to work for 14 days.I was allowed to go to the supermarket on my way to the accommodation as it was 5pm so unlikely to be able to get a delivery that evening and the next day at work.I also had to wear a mask at all times I was out of the unit.

But on Monday 31/8 they changed the rules for exempt Heath Care Workers.No 14 day self isolation but have to wear a mask when working for 14 days-though the hospital insists on that any way as there were some Covid deaths at the Mersey.But I will have my temperature checked and have to fill in a Covid symptom questionnaire on arrival which was not done the first time.

Possibly they may be seeing how the temperature check and questionnaire goes and if no major problems at least allow those from SA,WA,NT and ? ACT to enter without quarantine.Maybe on 1st November.Probably would be pushing it to expect October.
We can live in hope.

 

[N860CR]

Exactly. It's out there, we have to learn to live with it IMO.

History will look back on the initial lockdowns as an abject failure when you consider the end result of where we are now (worldwide) and money spent/economies destroyed.

South Africa is a great example of this, and one I’ve noted Australian media doesn’t mention as it doesn’t suit the agenda.

We hear about the US and Brazil having massive outbreaks because they “didn’t lock down”, however SA had probably the most aggressive and harsh lockdown in the world, and the result was largely the same. Fifth highest total infection rate in a fairly small population of about 60mil.

Yes there are socioeconomic considerations... but I’m quite happy to say that we’ve proven harsh lockdowns are ineffective as it’s just pushing the can down the road. As Australia did. And as I said would happen back in March.

 

[dajop]

Exactly. It's out there, we have to learn to live with it IMO.

History will look back on the initial lockdowns as an abject failure when you consider the end result of where we are now (worldwide) and money spent/economies destroyed.

We do have to learn to live with it, but I think the jury is still out on your second sentence whether the lockdowns themselves actually destroyed economies. There are reports of countries that have not locked down (Sweden) still suffering significant economic downturns (in fact reports are the Sweden's downturns were greater than neighbouring Norway and Finland - who did have lockdowns), but it's really hard to dissect the variables that may have contributed to this. Brazil is another. But in essence, the commentary has been that even if a country chooses to not lockdown in a legal sense, the impact of people following social distancing "guidelines", staying home etc, even if they are not required to, still has a negative impact on economic activity.

 

[kyle]

WIth 113 cases today in Vic, I'm still curious where all these infections come from. Speaking for myself, I can count with one hand the places I have been to in the past month.