Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[kyle]

I think you will find that they have enough for anyone that has a booking.

That's good. That post had me worried.

 

[drron]

I really don't know what's been said here. I simply made an appointment with my GP's surgery, and had a 'quad' injection 10 days ago, from the nurse. Cost me $16.50. No connection with a pharmac_, or with 'Mr Hunt'.

Do you really think it a 'waste of your time' to get vaccinated against flu, especially in the current environment? I drove an hour to my GP and an hour back, without blinking. I also get my pathology results from my GP by SMS - either 'no problem' - thats it, or 'please make an appointment' if it needs follow-up.

Sounds like you might need to change your GP.

Not neccessarily.Our GP on the Sunshine Coast never gets the senior's fluvax until mid April.It also just turns up.They are never told what day it will come.
But it sounds that you are answering someone who is not a regular visitor to a GP.

 

[Pushka]

Another death in SA. From the damn Ruby Princess. That's up to 16 now. I'm thinking one of our large Travel Agencies led a tour group as they have done before, even on the cruise that many AFFers went on a couple of years ago had a large tour group from this Agency.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Well the Craig Mortimer Antartic passengers have landed in Melbourne. A cruise that only left on 15 March where 70% have reportedly all caught CV19.

So that will cause a massive spike in CV19 cases as soon as the figures are entered in the Australian and presumably Victorian totals (though maybe they will assign them to their state of residence).

Victorian state of emergency extended for another month as new coronavirus cases decline

Premier Daniel Andrews announces the state of emergency will be extended until May 11, as Victoria records just three more cases of coronavirus overnight.

www.abc.net.au

Also they will be among about 1,200 Australians arriving into Melbourne this weekend with flights also coming from Peru and India.

 

[kyle]

Well the Craig Mortimer Antartic passengers have landed in Melbourne. A cruise that only left on 15 March where 70% have reportedly all caught CV19.

So that will causea massive spike in CV19 cases as soon as the figures are entered in the Austrlian and presumably Victorian totals.

Victorian state of emergency extended for another month as new coronavirus cases decline

Premier Daniel Andrews announces the state of emergency will be extended until May 11, as Victoria records just three more cases of coronavirus overnight.

www.abc.net.au

Also they will be among about 1,200 Australians arriving into Melbourne this weekend with flights also coming from Peru and India.

Can we not count them so our total looks better?

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Can we not count them so our total looks better?

Well the important thing is that they all go into quarantine so that they do not infect anyone.

The authorities categorise all cases and so they know the numbers of local transmissions which is the critical number at present. Once that drops to zero we will effectively be virus free even if international infected Australians keep arriving back into Australia. These will all go into quarantine and so should not be a threat.

Potentially there are still vast numbers of Australians overseas who can still return. Many will probably not as they are essentially permanently living in the UK, USA etc.

 

[Pushka]

Well the Craig Mortimer Antartic passengers have landed in Melbourne. A cruise that only left on 15 March where 70% have reportedly all caught CV19.

So that will causea massive spike in CV19 cases as soon as the figures are entered in the Austrlian and presumably Victorian totals.

Victorian state of emergency extended for another month as new coronavirus cases decline

Premier Daniel Andrews announces the state of emergency will be extended until May 11, as Victoria records just three more cases of coronavirus overnight.

www.abc.net.au

Also they will be among about 1,200 Australians arriving into Melbourne this weekend with flights also coming from Peru and India.

I'd trust they would create a special category for these passengers like they did with Diamond. I'd be pretty peeved if decisions were made impacting everyone else simply because of the influx of such passengers. Of course manage them in hospitals but not conflate community spread figures because of people who decided to travel after this virus was spreading around the world.

 

[pauly7]

I'd trust they would create a special category for these passengers like they did with Diamond. I'd be pretty peeved if decisions were made impacting everyone else simply because of the influx of such passengers. Of course manage them in hospitals but not conflate community spread figures because of people who decided to travel after this virus was spreading around the world.

I think after NSW bungled the Ruby Princess, every other state will be making very sure there is no repeat of that mess.

 

[Pushka]

I think after NSW bungled the Ruby Princess, every other state will be making very sure there is no repeat of that mess.

Just listening on Fox News now there is a NSW person talking about the statistics and saying why the NSW numbers had reduced. They are actually wasting time on shifting by 1 positive reported yesterday simply because the test had been done by a NSW lab for someone living in Qld. Does this NSW Govt actually think it's a good spend of their time bothering about how 1 positive is accounted for after unleashing over 650 positives into the rest of Australia?

And our SA Health people are very clear when pointing out the deaths as a result of Ruby even if the NSW government refuses to acknowledge that.

 

[Princess Fiona]

Just listening on Fox News now there is a NSW person talking about the statistics and saying why the NSW numbers had reduced. They are actually wasting time on shifting by 1 positive reported yesterday simply because the test had been done by a NSW lab for someone living in Qld. Does this NSW Govt actually think it's a good spend of their time bothering about how 1 positive is accounted for after unleashing over 650 positives into the rest of Australia?

And our SA Health people are very clear when pointing out the deaths as a result of Ruby even if the NSW government refuses to acknowledge that.

Don’t watch Fox News.
Under the National Database cases must be reported based on their Australian jurisdiction of residence and not where it was detected.
This is actually vitally important for the state Public Health systems in terms of tracking

 

[drron]

There were 217 people on the Greg Mortimer-passengers plus crew.126 apparently passengers.Of those on board 128 have tested positive but it is said all asymptomatic.however that is almost certainly incorrect.
"Last week, SBS News revealed that one person on board had tested positive to the virus, with passengers fearing an outbreak after a number of passengers and crew members began showing symptoms."

'They're pretty much sitting ducks': Coronavirus case confirmed on Australian ship stuck off the coast of Uruguay

There are fears of a coronavirus outbreak onboard an Antarctic voyager ship with close to a hundred Australian passengers onboard after one person tested positive and nine others developed symptoms.

www.sbs.com.au

Greg Mortimer: Uruguay evacuates Australians and New Zealanders on coronavirus-infected ship

Australian and New Zealand passengers on board the Greg Mortimer cruise ship have begun their journey home and are due to arrive in Melbourne.

www.sbs.com.au

But the idea that this will cause a massive spike in our case numbers is ludicrous.Up to 80 positive cases means a little over 1% of current cases.Then they all go into 2 weeks mandatory isolation so exceedingly unlikely to cause even more infections unlike the Ruby Princess.
On the other hand this is an Australian owned and run ship.They really need to do some explaining.Apparently this ship left on this voyage on 15/3.This is the same day that Pres.trump shut down the US cruise industry.Seeing cruises usually leave late afternoons on a change day they really should have known this and cancelled the cruise.If they only found out the next day they should have turned around and gone back to port.
Seeing that on 20/2 it was announced that the Diamond Princess accounted for nearly half of the cases outside China makes the case for cancelling the cruise even stronger.Will be interesting to see what happens if they had any US passengers.

 

[Pushka]

Don’t watch Fox News.
Under the National Database cases must be reported based on their Australian jurisdiction of residence and not where it was detected.
This is actually vitally important for the state Public Health systems in terms of tracking

I am laughing About the Fox News warning btw.

I understand in general terms and in SA they do try track everyone. Perhaps it was her manner but it just seemed to me like she was passing the buck to another state. Not sure it was at all important for her to mention in a press conference though. That kind of detail is of no significance to Joe Public.

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There were 217 people on the Greg Mortimer-passengers plus crew.126 apparently passengers.Of those on board 128 have tested positive but it is said all asymptomatic.however that is almost certainly incorrect.
"Last week, SBS News revealed that one person on board had tested positive to the virus, with passengers fearing an outbreak after a number of passengers and crew members began showing symptoms."

'They're pretty much sitting ducks': Coronavirus case confirmed on Australian ship stuck off the coast of Uruguay

There are fears of a coronavirus outbreak onboard an Antarctic voyager ship with close to a hundred Australian passengers onboard after one person tested positive and nine others developed symptoms.

www.sbs.com.au

Greg Mortimer: Uruguay evacuates Australians and New Zealanders on coronavirus-infected ship

Australian and New Zealand passengers on board the Greg Mortimer cruise ship have begun their journey home and are due to arrive in Melbourne.

www.sbs.com.au

But the idea that this will cause a massive spike in our case numbers is ludicrous.Up to 80 positive cases means a little over 1% of current cases.Then they all go into 2 weeks mandatory isolation so exceedingly unlikely to cause even more infections unlike the Ruby Princess.
On the other hand this is an Australian owned and run ship.They really need to do some explaining.Apparently this ship left on this voyage on 15/3.This is the same day that Pres.trump shut down the US cruise industry.Seeing cruises usually leave late afternoons on a change day they really should have known this and cancelled the cruise.If they only found out the next day they should have turned around and gone back to port.
Seeing that on 20/2 it was announced that the Diamond Princess accounted for nearly half of the cases outside China makes the case for cancelling the cruise even stronger.Will be interesting to see what happens if they had any US passengers.

Sure but given a NSW medical person was just stressing on about a change of state statistics for just 1 positive, that number does seem rather significant.

 

[ethernet]

Agree - special quarantine needed. At least 25% self quarantining did not follow orders, and that was on patchy spot inspections to boot. One used the fire doors... And who knows, some of these home delivery guys may have been inventive - and carried away a free bonus. I think they need a very secure setup/Island/camp, and obviously stays extended if new cross infection occurs.

On testing, you can do what they did in older times - combine many samples and test a pool. You can let the test s 'develop' for longer at an optimum temperature/environment. Of course the manufacturer wants single use. A binary chop will narrow down the positives. Test reliability may be impacted by other drugs - both legal and illegal.

Q: Of all the 10,000's taking hydroxychloroquine - using PBS data has anyone of those tested positive to COVID? Repeat for UK etc. Got the data, but are we mining it? And those Hospitals in TAS. Were they statistically at the bottom for patient infections? Made in Australia reagents will probably be more sensitive than stabilised single use strips. Time people took a holistic approach to get answers.

 

[moa999]

They are actually wasting time on shifting by 1 positive reported yesterday simply because the test had been done by a NSW lab for someone living in Qld. Does this NSW Govt actually think it's a good spend of their time bothering about how 1 positive is accounted for after unleashing over 650 positives into the rest of Australia?

They are just ensuring the numbers are correctly reported as required.

Had NSWH/ABF or whoever done their job, it wouldn't have changed the 650 number and deaths (plus a bunch of crew) - they all caught it onboard, and it all would have been reported based on state of residence, even though they would likely have been restricted to Sydney hotels and hospitals.
The only difference would have been a bit less in secondary transmission (which I think at last count was 16) to taxi drivers, family members etc.

 

[Pushka]

Q: Of all the 10,000's taking hydroxychloroquine - using PBS data has anyone of those tested positive to COVID? Repeat for UK etc. Got the data, but are we mining it? And those Hospitals in TAS. Were they statistically at the bottom for patient infections? Made in Australia reagents will probably be more sensitive than stabilised single use strips. Time people took a holistic approach to get answers.

Yes, I know of someone in a Lupus FB group who lives in NSW and tested positive. Her symptoms were mild - she just knew she had "something". She is young, I'd say thirties.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

But the idea that this will cause a massive spike in our case numbers is ludicrous.

I was talking about a spike in the daily numbers and not coughulative as the numbers would make that obvious.

Today we currently have an incomplete daily total of only 22 with the less populated states still to report. (NSW and Vic have had dramatically lower daily numbers overnight and daily totals so far)

Add 70 to 80 to that and you have a massive spike on the daily number. Even if the daily total was yesterday's 97 cases, it would still be a massive spike.


And yes as already stated they will all go into quarantine and so will not spread CV19 to others and that the truly important numbers are the CV19 cases that are identified who are out and about in the general public.

 

[Steady]

NW Tas general and private hospitals close tomorrow at 7am, all staff and their families on 14 day isolation- (nominally 1000 people) Patients being moved to The Mersey.

Non essential Business’s to close as of midnight tonight- places like Bunnings only open to trade.

Only non essential business’s that can offer home delivery can be operating so no takeaways etc

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Daily cases (Some smaller population states still to report, plus typically some cases come in later, though on past days the first morning report from each state has been the bulk of each days new cases) is still only 25.

Charting the COVID-19 spread: Australia passes 10,000 coronavirus deaths

Australia has officially recorded more than 10,000 COVID deaths in total, with 4,000 of those recorded in Victoria. Here's what the latest data shows.

www.abc.net.au

If this stays similar that is exceptionally good news.

 

[OZDUCK]

W.A. had 3 cases - 2 from Cruise Ships and 1 origin unknown at present. The Premier has indicated that while some restrictions may be reviewed in a month the State border closure is likely to be in place for 6 months.

 

[Pushka]

No positives in SA today. Sadly 1 death. I wonder what the impact of Easter will be in 10-14 days time though.