Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[lovetravellingoz]

Bairnsdale worries me because that's where my family is. but yes, Shep is very concerning given its had a two week headstart due to one idiots lies.

Many hugs then.

My great grandparents/ grandparents on my father's side (all deceased now) are all from that general region and I still have a number of blood relatives down that way.

 

[Pushka]

Its the same person who spread it to Killmore. They lied to the contact tracers and did not tell them that they also went to Shepp.

They only found out last night where the person finally divulged they actually went to Shepp as well.

Some people.....

So any penalty then given they flouted the rules and also weren’t truthful with the tracers?

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Bairnsdale worries me because that's where my family is. but yes, Shep is very concerning given its had a two week headstart due to one idiots lies.

Two weeks already? Damn.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Test numbers back up substantially today to 16,061 after having been low yesterday and lowish for 3 days. So that make the news 3 cases in Melbourne even better news.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Presser has a person with permit (evidently is a truck driver) having travelled to Shep on 30 Sept. Kilmore seeder. Has now been referred to Vic Police due to not being honest in the first interviews. They also breached rules in Shep in visiting Bunnings, dining in etc.

One case detected in a person who had presented for testing who worked at a tyre business, which then led to testing all workers at the business and 2 workmates then also tested positive.

Rapid molecular testing was used to test the first 12 people, which identified the 2 extra cases.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Interesting in the Presser today that a number the journalists who have been complaining about a police state, tower lockdowns etc, Premier Dan, tight restrictions etc are now all calling en masse that mobile phone records etc should all be taken and checked.

Now CHO indicating that they may indeed do this. But it is interesting in today's flipflop by some journalists.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Note that at the Presser that Melbourne Cases is being stated at 4, rather than 3.

 

[jakeseven7]

14 new cases in NSW.

NSW higher than VIC today.

At least they have got their testing back up.

All cases linked - so no mystery cases for the QLD border clock.

But there is a regional NSW case (not in today's numbers) that has popped up in Bargo.

 

[jakeseven7]

And the sewerage testing was accurate and has uncovered a COVID case in QLD......


Coronavirus contact tracing underway after north Queensland woman tests positive

Contact tracing underway after Townsville woman tests positive for coronavirus

A Townsville woman in her 30s tests positive to coronavirus while in Victoria with Queensland's health authorities now tracking down her contacts before she travelled south. COVID-19 was detected in Townsville's wastewater on the weekend.

www.abc.net.au

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Note that at the Presser that Melbourne Cases is being stated at 4, rather than 3.

It seems that the Bairnsdale case was in Melbourne for all of their infectious period (ie were living in Melbourne for that period) and that they are part of the 4 Melbourne cases.

As such it would appear that risk in Bairnsdale is very low or nil.

 

[Flying mermaid]

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14 new cases in NSW.

NSW higher than VIC today.

At least they have got their testing back up.

All cases linked - so no mystery cases for the QLD border clock.

But there is a regional NSW case (not in today's numbers) that has popped up in Bargo.

Bargo is getting a bit close to us - I might need to go back in my bunker. Ate at a cafe on Monday for the first time since March

 

[blackcat20]

Interesting in the Presser today that a number the journalists who have been complaining about a police state, tower lockdowns etc, Premier Dan, tight restrictions etc are now all calling en masse that mobile phone records etc should all be taken and checked.

Now CHO indicating that they may indeed do this. But it is interesting in today's flipflop by some journalists.

Ridiculous isnt it, just shows DA is damned if he does and damned if he doesnt.

Hope they throw the book at the truckie; I'm ok with exemptions for people who are honest (eg in the casey cluster) but he clearly wasnt.

 

[Pushka]

Interesting in the Presser today that a number the journalists who have been complaining about a police state, tower lockdowns etc, Dictator Dan, tight restrictions etc are now all calling en masse that mobile phone records etc should all be taken and checked.

Now CHO indicating that they may indeed do this. But it is interesting in today's flipflop by some journalists.

I don’t see that as a flip flop at all but rather a discrimination of relevance - sorting out things that make a difference (eg tracking a known COVID positive person who flouted the rules and super spread) versus rules that are made with no one seemingly making the decision or not remembering who did make the decision and no scientific evidence.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

And the sewerage testing was accurate and has uncovered a COVID case in QLD......


Coronavirus contact tracing underway after north Queensland woman tests positive

Contact tracing underway after Townsville woman tests positive for coronavirus

A Townsville woman in her 30s tests positive to coronavirus while in Victoria with Queensland's health authorities now tracking down her contacts before she travelled south. COVID-19 was detected in Townsville's wastewater on the weekend.

www.abc.net.au

Though Miles thinks she gained in Vic.

Health Minister Steven Miles said the woman, in her 30s, is from Townsville and had travelled to Cairns and Brisbane before going to Victoria on October 7. ​

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She tested positive three days after arriving in Melbourne.​

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Mr Miles said the woman "most likely" got the virus in Melbourne, but Queensland authorities would be "ultra cautious" and treat the case as though she was infectious while in Townsville, Cairns and Brisbane.​

Given that it normally takes some days to generate enough viral load to return a positive sample and given how few people were infected in Victoria on those dates who would still be contagious in that period she must be one unlucky person to have in a very limited window (ie with a day) of time to have made contact with such a contagious person.


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"She's not showing any symptoms of COVID-19 and that's why it's challenging for us to identify when she may have been infectious.​

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"She appears to be one of these asymptomatic cases.​

So the question is why and how was she tested? Being asymptomatic there must have been a special reason. If it was because she has had contact with a known case in Melbourne, why is this not mentioned?

I suspect there is information that is known, but not revealed about this case.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I don’t see that as a flip flop at all but rather a discrimination of relevance - sorting out things that make a difference

So you believe that the various restrictions have not made a beneficial difference?

Tower lockdowns etc all made a difference. Indeed if the towers had not have been handled like they were it would probably would have been quite horrific. There was massive media criticism at the time, and much of media reporting at the time was more aimed at incting unrest, that in decreasing infections.

 

[p--and--t]

Though Miles thinks she gained in Vic.

Health Minister Steven Miles said the woman, in her 30s, is from Townsville and had travelled to Cairns and Brisbane before going to Victoria on October 7. ​

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She tested positive three days after arriving in Melbourne.​

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Mr Miles said the woman "most likely" got the virus in Melbourne, but Queensland authorities would be "ultra cautious" and treat the case as though she was infectious while in Townsville, Cairns and Brisbane.​

Given that it normally takes some days to generate enough viral load to return a positive sample and given how few people were infected in Victoria on those dates who would still be contagious in that period she must be one unlucky person to have in a very limited window (ie with a day) of time to have made contact with such a contagious person.


Also:

"She's not showing any symptoms of COVID-19 and that's why it's challenging for us to identify when she may have been infectious.​

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"She appears to be one of these asymptomatic cases.​

So the question is why and how was she tested? Being asymptomatic there must have been a special reason. If it was because she has had contact with a known case in Melbourne, why is this not mentioned?

I suspect there is information that is known, but not revealed about this case.

If its not her and she wasn't infectious while in QLD, then who is discharging virus into the Townsville sewerage? Something doesn't add up.

 

[jakeseven7]

If its not her and she wasn't infectious while in QLD, then who is discharging virus into the Townsville sewerage? Something doesn't add up.

Potentially more cases.....? Testing is very very low in QLD, easy for it to skip under radar.

 

[p--and--t]

Potentially more cases.....? Testing is very very low in QLD, easy for it to skip under radar.

I'm sceptical.

We already know from cases in SA and WA and elsewhere that people in isolation can test negative at day 3 and positive at day 10-12.

Highly suspicious she just miraculously didn't have covid while in Townsville QLD and then in a huge lottery ticket odds coincidence she caught the virus in Melbourne after only being here 24hours when the new case load in a city of 5+M is less than 20 per day.

I'm guessing genomic sequencing will be available within a few days to determine whether this highly unlikely scenario is true.

 

[blackcat20]

If its not her and she wasn't infectious while in QLD, then who is discharging virus into the Townsville sewerage? Something doesn't add up.

And can you even test positive within three days of catching it?

 

[Pushka]

So you believe that the various restrictions have not made a beneficial difference?

Tower lockdowns etc all made a difference. Indeed if the towers had not have been handled like they were it would probably would have been quite horrific. There was massive media criticism at the time, and much of media reporting at the time was more aimed at incting unrest, that in decreasing infections.


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I think the tower restrictions were a good idea as they were targeted to a specific ‘region’ or ‘at risk population group’. Full lockdown? Not a fan at this stage. Needs to be a cleverer plan that that. In SA the Barossa emerged as a nasty hot spot very early on so that region only was completely locked down. Surrounding areas weren’t impacted other than the usual COVID stuff. Similarly, lockdown of targeted nursing homes is appropriate. That is what we will have to do moving forward. That and testing and proper tracing.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I think the tower restrictions were a good idea as they were targeted to a specific ‘region’ or ‘at risk population group’. Full lockdown? Not a fan at this stage. Needs to be a cleverer plan that that.

And what full lockdown are you referring to?

Apart from the towers and some aged care we have not had them in Vic.

With Shep I assume that they will pretty much do what they did in Kilmore.