Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

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But SYD is the hub of air freight in Australia with nearly 50% of Australia’s total. MEL is a very distant second on about half of what goes through SYD
A lot of my social media has finally cottoned on to the heavy lifting that NSW is doing. I expect Brad Hazzard to move on this hard this week. Gladys and Brad are the people that have ruined Christmas and they need to do something about it.
 
Or the St Peters trapeze school 😂

Ive got two trains of thought on that one... someone is having it on, or they’re the person who had a few too many coughtails at the Rose of Australia and decided that it sounded like a good idea at the time.
 
I feel damn sorry for NSW and their people right now. They have taken on all the heavy lifting for the rest of Australia. And other than the last week have managed everything extremely safely, other than Ruby fiasco but that was mid March. I just hope that like the recent events in SA that the location warnings come to nought. But it will take some time to get there given the current high numbers testing positive.
 
I feel damn sorry for NSW and their people right now. They have taken on all the heavy lifting for the rest of Australia. And other than the last week have managed everything extremely safely, other than Ruby fiasco but that was mid March. I just hope that like the recent events in SA that the location warnings come to nought. But it will take some time to get there given the current high numbers testing positive.
The numbers aren’t that high really as a proportion of tests done which is 28Kish.

What annoys me is they don’t say what split of today’s 30 are already isolating or close contacts. SA were much better at this detail which helped people assess the situation.

The next few days are purely luck for greater Sydney based on what happened a week ago now with testing being a lagging indicator. The number of venue alerts outside northern beaches is growing but this is where the luck comes in.
 
I feel damn sorry for NSW and their people right now. They have taken on all the heavy lifting for the rest of Australia. And other than the last week have managed everything extremely safely, other than Ruby fiasco but that was mid March. I just hope that like the recent events in SA that the location warnings come to nought. But it will take some time to get there given the current high numbers testing positive.
 
The numbers aren’t that high really as a proportion of tests done which is 28Kish.

What annoys me is they don’t say what split of today’s 30 are already isolating or close contacts. SA were much better at this detail which helped people assess the situation.

The next few days are purely luck for greater Sydney based on what happened a week ago now with testing being a lagging indicator. The number of venue alerts outside northern beaches is growing but this is where the luck comes in.
I think NSW did mention all were isolating (but we might be talking 1-2 days more) but no information as to whether household/close contacts. The excuse was something along the line it was complex given the tightness of the spread so far?!

I’ve not had a chance to check the media release for today’s figures. So that may shed more light.

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The numbers aren’t that high really as a proportion of tests done which is 28Kish.

What annoys me is they don’t say what split of today’s 30 are already isolating or close contacts. SA were much better at this detail which helped people assess the situation.

The next few days are purely luck for greater Sydney based on what happened a week ago now with testing being a lagging indicator. The number of venue alerts outside northern beaches is growing but this is where the luck comes in.
NSW were very good with that detail in the past. Dr Chant was asked how many of them today were from contacts already in quarantine and she seemed to duck the question - not sure whether they are just working too hard on contact tracing to gave time to break it down or whether they don’t want to share it at the moment.
 
The numbers aren’t that high really as a proportion of tests done which is 28Kish.

What annoys me is they don’t say what split of today’s 30 are already isolating or close contacts. SA were much better at this detail which helped people assess the situation.

The next few days are purely luck for greater Sydney based on what happened a week ago now with testing being a lagging indicator. The number of venue alerts outside northern beaches is growing but this is where the luck comes in.
But in reality the number of tests is irrelevant though - the testing rate is high but it's the actual number positive that creates all the restrictions.

It would certainly be good to know how many were already in isolation but we know two weren't.
 
I think the one real plus so far is that we aren’t seeing these numbers transpire into hospitalisations yet. If we start seeing those numbers go up there will be panic
 
Learning that some 2000 aircrew have been arriving in Sydney each week I am surprised an outbreak hasn't happened sooner - letting them basically do their own thing by self isolating in one of 26 hotels after simply signing a declaration is crazy!
 
I've read a few stories across various websites today of people flying in to SA today from NSW before the midnight cutoff being required to isolate or return to NSW - according to anecdotal reports shared by the ABC there's been a few planeloads of passengers impacted:

 
The airline crew won’t agree to our terms so we need to close it and divert all arrivals to every other state capital.

I suspect there was actually very little push back from the airlines to stay in certain hotels. They would be doing this in other countries like NZ and China that have enforced rules for airline crew, so don't know why NSW thought it was such an issue. There was mention of international conventions etc, but I am pretty sure the rule is, you fly to our country, you follow our rules. Simples.
 
I've read a few stories across various websites today of people flying in to SA today from NSW before the midnight cutoff being required to isolate or return to NSW - according to anecdotal reports shared by the ABC there's been a few planeloads of passengers impacted:

If they'd been to a hotspot then they were going to be put into a medi hotel. After midnight they will be refused entry. From midnight everyone will be required to self isolate and be tested three times. I think.
 
If they'd been to a hotspot then they were going to be put into a medi hotel. After midnight they will be refused entry. From midnight everyone will be required to self isolate and be tested three times. I think.
The SA governments emergency order drafting had better be up to scratch otherwise they’ll be sued particularly if they try to make people pay.
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I suspect there was actually very little push back from the airlines to stay in certain hotels. They would be doing this in other countries like NZ and China that have enforced rules for airline crew, so don't know why NSW thought it was such an issue. There was mention of international conventions etc, but I am pretty sure the rule is, you fly to our country, you follow our rules. Simples.
That’s not what Brad Hazzard has been saying.

At this point if they don’t agree we need to withdraw landing rights. Unless NSW Health knows something about an exemption and this is all a distraction...
 
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The SA governments emergency order drafting had better be up to scratch otherwise they’ll be sued particularly if they try to make people pay.
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That’s not what Brad Hazzard has been saying.

At this point if they don’t agree we need to withdraw landing rights. Unless NSW Health knows something about an exemption and this is all a distraction...
They usually dont make people pay for domestic situations prior to their deadlines, just the internationals.
 
If they'd been to a hotspot then they were going to be put into a medi hotel. After midnight they will be refused entry. From midnight everyone will be required to self isolate and be tested three times. I think.
These were reportedly travelers from the Greater Sydney region (it's not suggested they'd been in a hotspot area) who were being asked to isolate prior to the midnight cutoff, so they had assumed that they would not need to undergo isolation. The ABC stories are for those arriving by air, but I read on the Sydney subreddit that another person was turned away at the road border today, and they'd mentioned others were as well.

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Double quarantine for those arriving in Melbourne after Sydney quarantine?

What is the situation for international travel having to Quarantine in Sydney and then travel to Victoria? Double Quarantine?

-Stuck OS

The Victorian Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton was asked about this prospect during the press conference this afternoon.

Professor Sutton said it would depend on the circumstances when people leave hotel quarantine in Sydney.

"There are always exceptional circumstances that we can consider but it's going to be a very high bar," he said.

"Those exemptions need to be approved by the New South Wales authorities, by the Chief Health Officer and her office in the first instance.

"But it's essentially for very strict compassionate reasons, it wouldn't be out of convenience.

"It'll be on a case-by-case basis and in limited circumstances, I would think."

On Twitter this evening, Deputy CHO Allen Cheng suggested people in this situation contact DHHS for an exemption.

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That’s not what Brad Hazzard has been saying.
Yes, I found his speech in the conference interesting. Now I don't know if there is in fact such a thing, but as you mentioned, its pretty simple. Here are the rules, if you're not willing to follow, don't fly here.

In China, QF (and all airlines) must stay at a designated hotel and submit to a test. The crew can't leave till the test is negative. If airlines are happy to follow that in China, I don't see the issue in Sydney, given most of those airlines would also be flying to China.
 
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