Census 2016 - Travel Overseas and avoid?

[Quickstatus]

Re: Census 2016

Highly unlikely that the people responsible for this will be sacked. The Australian Statistician can only be sacked by a two thirds majority of both houses of parliament or if he is found to be insane. I think the second option is more likely .

All correct. Point 3 = even more reason to be cynical of the ABS. At least we can sack politicians by proportional representation rules.

 

[OATEK]

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It is 22:30 and still no joy.

 

[RooFlyer]

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I don't trust anyone. Someone must prove they can be trusted before I will do so. Anyone saying something along the lines of "trust us" just makes them less trustworthy.

Sorry. Its a matter of trust.

I'm not that great with trust either. But I also apply a filter - does it actually matter a rat's cough? As far as the census is concerned, my reply to that is no. I want my data to be private to the ABS, but if it was hacked and released publically, there is nothing in there that I would care about being public. And no, to pre-empt a certain question, I'm not going to do it here.

Again, why all this stress and invective about the census and 'privacy'? I've put the question and facts several times about what you put in your tax return, possibly on-line and which is definitely shared between government agencies. No-one has touched that.

Seriously ... does anyone here concerned about census 'privacy' have an equal concern about the collection of tax info, and the data matching they say does go on? Do you threaten or actually do not put your name on their tax return? No? Why is the census different? The tax info collected is actually a lot less sensitive and often on-line) I reckon and both have legislative backing, with penalties.

As for the census site crashing (disgraceful) .. well, like amaroo I pre-empted that by asking for a paper form.

 

[JohnK]

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Census website still down for me.

I did the census tonight...took about 5 minutes....full of typos etc but who cares I refused to disclose my total income!

At least you know your total income. I have no idea my total income....

 

[RooFlyer]

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If the census site has crashed, then ... YAWN! Do it tomorrow, or next week. Again, some people just like to have a crisis to complain about.

 

[RooFlyer]

Re: Census 2016

Census website still down for me.
At least you know your total income. I have no idea my total income....

Do it tomorrow or next week.

The tax man will know your income, even if you don't

 

[froggerADL]

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I'm not that great with trust either. But I also apply a filter - does it actually matter a rat's cough?

From a white Australian perspective, maybe not. However, for people of Jewish heritage, or possibly Muslims, as a couple of examples, it might matter. Other people have different filters.

 

[Quickstatus]

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If the census site has crashed, then ... YAWN! Do it tomorrow, or next week. Again, some people just like to have a crisis to complain about.

Partly or just a chance to "stick it" to some patronising Govt dept or bureaucrat:

 

[QF WP]

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Still out at 10:33, 10:43 and 10.53...ABS will be red faced tomorrow

 

[AnnaB]

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One perk of jet lag I did mine over night when I couldnt sleep... no problems loggin on at 3.30 in the morning

 

[Solid]

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Seriously ... does anyone here concerned about census 'privacy' have an equal concern about the collection of tax info, and the data matching they say does go on? Do you threaten or actually do not put your name on their tax return? No? Why is the census different? The tax info collected is actually a lot less sensitive and often on-line) I reckon and both have legislative backing, with penalties.

As for the census site crashing (disgraceful) .. well, like amaroo I pre-empted that by asking for a paper form.

Little known trivia fact, you can still do a paper tax return without having a tax file number.

 

[straitman]

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It is 22:30 and still no joy.

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Still the same old message.

 

[froggerADL]

Re: Census 2016

Still the same old message.

At least they'll be able to blame IBM.

 

[Quickstatus]

Re: Census 2016

At least they'll be able to blame IBM.

No the public relations contractors for the government are currently working on a response

This will be spun as a success. "Country emphatically, enthusiatically embraces online census more than predicted - results were amazing" = proving that the move to online was the correct move going forward.

 

[OzEire]

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For those concerned about data matching, a frequent flyer number (or any loyalty "membership" ID) is the ideal unique ID for marketers to link your travel, shopping, hotel spend, car hire, credit card activity, etc. etc.

For a few cents worth of points many willingly offer much more personal info than the Census asks for. And in the fine print, which is skipped in haste to get those points "before this offer expires", these companies clearly state that you agree to info being shared, sold or "to personalise our service to you" = sold.

All for a few cents worth of points.

Ps. ABS server fail. When it is a question of government conspiracy vs. ineptitude, my money will be on bureaucrat Bob f*@king up.

 

[whatmeworry]

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So the ABS has said, that by doing the census online, it will collate results 3 months quicker. But they need to keep our names an extra 2 & a half years so they can better process the data... I am calling BS

I guess this will stop electronic voting for a decade or two.

 

[KateMayo]

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04:45 and still no joy with the website!!

 

[cove]

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Kate 4.45am is the best part of the morning so don't waste it.

 

[Ansett]

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We did ours on Friday to avoid the heartache and frustration that was inevitable.

 

[puppysparkes]

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It was bound to happen when.

The Australian Bureau of Statistics says its site was attacked by overseas hackers four times causing it to crash on census night
http://ab.co/2aPWjKw