Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

[Sprucegoose]

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The only drawback is that our forums can become "cluttered" with specific questions about availability on specific flights. This tends to reduce the overall usability of our site.
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For Questions about Aircraft Configuration and Seat Availability, please use this thread:​

Understanding [Fare Buckets] Expert Flyer

I'd appreciate some help understanding the information EF provides. For example, F6 A6 J9 C9 D9 I0 B9 H9 K9 M9 R9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0 What letters do I look at to try to work out how many seats are still available in economy? What letters do I look at to try to work out how many...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

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See this thread for hints on how to read loadings:

Interpreting and Understanding Expert Flyer​

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If looking for, say Qantas points upgrades, look for A class for First, mid to high D or any I class for Business and any R for Premium Economy.

Look for the most expensive category of the cabin YOU are currently booked in as being sold out e.g. J0 to first, W0 to Business & Y0 to PE for increased op-up chances. Also, look for availability on the discount premium buckets (A, P, I, D, U, T & Z inventories).

Conversely, look for high numbers in the discount economy buckets (N, O, Q, E & X inventories) for reduced op-up chances.

Seat maps can be a VERY rough guide but note that just because a seat is not showing as allocated does not mean that seat hasn't been sold. Not everyone pre-selects seats.

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Original thread title: update on QF93 on 12 sept

Appreciate it if someone could check EP for loadings.

thnxs

SPRUCE

 

[GoTheCats]

Thanks for the reply

What does that mean will i be able to get Op-UPgrade?

everything seems to be 0 except Y2. What does that mean?

Have you check the TIP in post 1 of this thread?

In any case:

Results from ExpertFlyer.com

Flight Availability Search
Departing MEL on 18/03/12 12:00 AM for SIN
Returning on 23/03/12 12:00 AM 
Flying QF  
                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability
QF 9          0      MEL                SIN                388       Unavailable     
                     18/03/12 5:00 PM   18/03/12 9:40 PM             70% / 53m

F0 A0 P0 J0 C0 D0 I0 U0 W0 R0 T0 Z0 Y2 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 G0 E0 


QF 10         0      SIN                MEL                388       Unavailable     
                     23/03/12 7:55 PM   24/03/12 6:30 AM             71% / 50m

F3 A3 J3 C1 D0 I0 U0 W0 R0 T0 Z0 Y9 B8 H6 K5 M5 L6 S4 Q2 G0 E0

 

[serfty]

Thanks for the reply

What does that mean will i be able to get Op-UPgrade?

everything seems to be 0 except Y2. What does that mean?

Please read the link to "Understanding Expert Flyer" in post 1 of this thread.

 

[GoTheCats]

Please read the link to "Understanding Expert Flyer" in post 1 of this thread.

I have read through and still cannot understand....

 

[serfty]

I have read through and still cannot understand....

Recheck this particular post: http://www.australianfrequentflyer....derstanding-expert-flyer-9314.html#post117796

It may provide some guidance; however to summarise, I would not expect any upgrades from Economy in this circumstance.

 

[Hubbins]

Dear AFFer's

Need a little assistance chasing an I Class Ticket (Business Class) from HNL to AKL on 10th Aug 12 or 15 Aug 12 or 22nd Aug 12 Flight No. is NZ09

Appericate if you can provide the information

Cheers

 

[serfty]

...
Need a little assistance chasing an I Class Ticket (Business Class) from HNL to AKL on 10th Aug 12 or 15 Aug 12 or 22nd Aug 12 Flight No. is NZ09...

I1 in each case.

 

[Hubbins]

Thanks for your help
what is the loading for business class for those days ?

 

[serfty]

Thanks for your help
what is the loading for business class for those days ?

C4D4Z4 all three - J5 10[SUP]th[/SUP], J7 both 15[SUP]th & [/SUP]22[SUP]nd[/SUP].

 

[Berlin]

Thanks a lot again guys- I will post afterwards how it went!

Upgrades came through on both flights- two lovely A380 J class flights which friendly staff, excellent food and drinks and a nice sleep as well. Nothing to fault QF with at all.

The "improved upgrade" experience didn't work for me at all though, found out about the upgrade both times on my FF profile only, both around T-20. First time it had allocated a J seat but still said "Requested" under status for several hours until it as cleaned up, second time even worse it told me for about ten hours that my flight had been cancelled and I have to urgently call QF for assistance. Turned out that they had cancelled my Why+ seat without showing my J seat at all resulting in this warning message. To the guy in the call center, it all looked fine with a confirmed upgrade to J- apparently happens all the time, according to him.

 

[Ansett]

Re: update on QF93 on 12 sept

Hi Flying QF9 on 4th April to LHR booked in J with upgrade request in for F was wondering if anyone could let me know what the loading is like and the probability at this point in time.

Also if anyone wants entry to the FR lounge on thi9s date then I can guest one please IM me

many thanks

 

[serfty]

Looks Rammed:

QF 9  MEL    LHR       388     F4 A4 P0 J3 C1 D0 I0 U0 W1 R0 T0 Z0 Y1 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 G0 E0                        04/04/12 3:30 PM   05/04/12 5:40 AM

As a WP, if you are booked in full J then you have a slight chance.

 

[Mollycram]

Hi, could someone please help me with the loadings on QF23 Syd-bkk on 6 April? Thanks

 

[strance]

F4 a4 p0 j8 c7 d5 i4 u0 w0 r0 t0 z0 y0 b0 h0 k0 m0 l0 g0 e0

 

[Mollycram]

F4 a4 p0 j8 c7 d5 i4 u0 w0 r0 t0 z0 y0 b0 h0 k0 m0 l0 g0 e0

Thanks....

 

[Alanslegal]

Hi, could someone please help me with the loadings on QF23 Syd-bkk on 6 April? Thanks

F4 a4 p0 j8 c7 d5 i4 u0 w0 r0 t0 z0 y0 b0 h0 k0 m0 l0 g0 e0

If you're hoping for a Y to J points upgrade, it looks pretty positive with those numbers.

 

[ReLoad]

Hi all, long range forecasting required for QF 9 MEL-LHR on the 4th on May. Coming from whY to either Y+ or J.

Here's the Loadings:
F9 A8 J9 C9 D0 I0 W0 R0 T0 Y9 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 G0 E0

It doesn't look good to me, anyone with more experience care to comment?

Interestingly, the MEL-SIN leg looks like this:
F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 I9 W6 R4 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 S9 Q2 G0 X5 E0

 

[newbieflyer22]

Hi All

First post ever.....so here goes.....

I have QFF SG.

I have paid Premium economy for QF9 on April 23 Mel LHR. (T)

Flightstats shows availability of F3 A2 P0 J5 C4 D0 I0 U0 W0 R0 T0 Z0 Y3 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 ...0 for all the rest for the Mel - LHR... THe Mel Sin leg has 9 availability for both First and Business. y9 and b9, but all the other economy are 0

I have requested an upgrade using points all the way to Heathrow.

To my unskilled eyes, it looks like economy and premium economy are pretty full. There is a little room but not much in both first and business.

What are the chances of my being upgraded using points based on these seat availability?

Would they upgrade me to Singapore, then put me back in premium economy for Singapore - heathrow leg? I don't want to waste points getting upgraded to Singapore, then put back into my paid class for the leg I really want the upgrade for...

Thanks

 

[serfty]

Welcome to AFF

If you booking is for MEL_LHR (not MEL-SIN and SIN-LHR) then that's how the upgrade will be assessed.

IMHO an SG you have reasonable chance, PE and Economy are almost certainly oversold - that Y3 could very well be "Yield Management" planning to sell J seats for high economy prices.

A WP would almost be assured of a points upgrade out of PE.

 

[newbieflyer22]

Thanks for your welcome and speedy reply.

 

[fiBer]

Hello All,
Travelling with my partner SYD-LHR as following:
QF1 24/4/12
QF9 25/4/12

Can someone assist with loadings - hoping to upgrade both of us to either PE or J for both flights. I am a WP and my partner is Bronze.