Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

Sprucegoose · Sep 2, 2010

PLEASE INCLUDE DATE, FLIGHT NUMBER, ORIGIN & DESTINATION IN ALL REQUESTS

>>>> ADDED BY ADMIN (6 Sept 2010) <<<<

Background to this thread
We have noticed an increase in the posting of questions about seat availability on specific flights. These are all valid questions and we all appreciate the efforts our members go to to provide answers.

The only drawback is that our forums can become "cluttered" with specific questions about availability on specific flights. This tends to reduce the overall usability of our site.
We have therefore created this new consolidated thread where you can ask questions about seat availability on specific flights. Hopefully, this will reduce clutter and improve useability.

Guidelines for posting in this thread
Please post questions about availability of specific flights or upgrade probability in this new consolidated thread. Be sure to include the airline, flight number, date, origin and destination and any other relevant detail.

When answering questions, please include the original question. This will assist in readability and management of the thread.

Thanks!

For Questions about Aircraft Configuration and Seat Availability, please use this thread:

Understanding [Fare Buckets] Expert Flyer

I'd appreciate some help understanding the information EF provides. For example, F6 A6 J9 C9 D9 I0 B9 H9 K9 M9 R9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0 What letters do I look at to try to work out how many seats are still available in economy? What letters do I look at to try to work out how many...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

See this thread for hints on how to read loadings:

Interpreting and Understanding Expert Flyer

If looking for, say Qantas points upgrades, look for A class for First, mid to high D or any I class for Business and any R for Premium Economy.

Look for the most expensive category of the cabin YOU are currently booked in as being sold out e.g. J0 to first, W0 to Business & Y0 to PE for increased op-up chances. Also, look for availability on the discount premium buckets (A, P, I, D, U, T & Z inventories).

Conversely, look for high numbers in the discount economy buckets (N, O, Q, E & X inventories) for reduced op-up chances.

Seat maps can be a VERY rough guide but note that just because a seat is not showing as allocated does not mean that seat hasn't been sold. Not everyone pre-selects seats.

>>>> END OF ADMIN UPDATE <<<<

Original thread title: update on QF93 on 12 sept

Appreciate it if someone could check EP for loadings.

thnxs

SPRUCE

isdnman · Jun 11, 2012

Thanks, all. Fingers crossed.

vitagen said:
Looks really full! (QF 071 PER-SIN, 17/06/12)

J3 C3 D2 I0 Y2 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 S0 G0 E0

Must...Fly! said:
I don't have EF but another source says pretty full.

J3 C3 D2 Y2, rest are zero.

vitagen · Jun 11, 2012

Expecting an Op Up?? or Points Upg

ButFli · Jun 15, 2012

G'day brothers and sisters of AFF. I'm jumping on QF1 on 23/6/2012. What're the loadings like? Whadya reckon the chances of an op-up from Y for a lowly QFF Silver will be?

Kangol · Jun 15, 2012

ButFli said:
G'day brothers and sisters of AFF. I'm jumping on QF1 on 23/6/2012. What're the loadings like? Whadya reckon the chances of an op-up from Y for a lowly QFF Silver will be?

All classes are zero. Completely full. So unfortunately your chances of an op-up regardless of class are pretty much zero.

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Must...Fly! · Jun 15, 2012

ButFli said:
G'day brothers and sisters of AFF. I'm jumping on QF1 on 23/6/2012. What're the loadings like? Whadya reckon the chances of an op-up from Y for a lowly QFF Silver will be?

syd-sin J6 C2 D2, zero everything else
sin-lhr zero across the board

maybe syd-sin, but as silver i doubt it. full to the brim sin-lhr

vertisol · Jun 20, 2012

If anyone can assist with the J loadings on the following:

24/6 SYD-PER QF571
25/6 PER - MEL QF802

much appreciated.

Must...Fly! · Jun 20, 2012

571 is J/2 C/1 Rest/0
802 is J/9 C/9 D/2 I/0 U/5

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Sera · Jun 25, 2012

Re: QF97 Y 23AB seating

hello all

would someone be able to help re upgrade possibility on QF27 19/9/2012 Syd Sant from Premium Eco (t) to Business. Status is gold, my partner also gold has a seat on points in Business already (booked on my account). Been in queue for upgrade since April this year so hopefully in line early enough....

thanks heaps

serfty · Jun 25, 2012

Re: QF97 Y 23AB seating

It's a bit far out.

See the tips on the First post to get the infor and analyze.

http://www.australianfrequentflyer....lity-allocation-configuration-help-25680.html

Results from ExpertFlyer.com

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Flight Availability Search
Departing SYD on 19/09/12 12:00 AM for SCL
Flying QF  


                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     
0 Connections
QF 27         0      SYD                SCL                744       Unavailable     
                     19/09/12 9:45 AM   19/09/12 9:55 AM             96% / 9m

Available Classes
J9 C9 D9 I5 U2 W9 R9 T9 Z1 Y9 B9 H9 K2 M9 L4 V9 S9 N5 Q1 O1 G0 E0

I5 is promising.

Sera · Jun 25, 2012

Re: QF97 Y 23AB seating

thank you Serfty for helping

I did use the thread to try and analyse but just wanted to confirm I'm on the right track...

I5 being upgrade seats?

serfty · Jun 25, 2012

Re: QF97 Y 23AB seating

Sera said:
...

I5 being upgrade seats?

I indicates 'deep discount' revenue business class. U is award. (FWIW, U2 is even more promising)

Aside from that, I don't believe "time of request" has any bearing on the awarding of upgrades any more.

Sera · Jun 25, 2012

Re: QF97 Y 23AB seating

much obliged for interpretation, hopefully remains promising.....

Reddust · Jun 30, 2012

Points upgrade query

Hi,

Find the insight on here really interesting. First question...

I am flying BNE-LAX on the 1st August, what is the chance of a points upgrade for myself and my wife (both silver)?

Guessing slim to none but thoughts would be good...

Cheers

Boris spatsky · Jun 30, 2012

Put in the request as early as possible (now) and cross your fingers. Someone with EF membership may be able to look at the fare buckets and give you a rough idea of the chances.

Reddust · Jun 30, 2012

Re: Points upgrade query

Boris spatsky said:
Put in the request as early as possible (now) and cross your fingers. Someone with EF membership may be able to look at the fare buckets and give you a rough idea of the chances.

I submitted my request about three weeks ago, I have Business listed as primary and PE if Business is unavailable.

Boris spatsky · Jun 30, 2012

Good, that is the way to do it. Your chances depend on availability of the upgrade fare buckets and how many higher tiered status members have requested.

strance · Jun 30, 2012

Re: Points upgrade query

qf15 on 01/08, looks promising at this stage with decent availability in business and premium fare buckets J9 C9 D9 I5 W9 R9 T9

richie9x · Jun 30, 2012

Re: Points upgrade query

I think you have reasonable odds. You are lucky you are flying on a Wednesday as it is typically the quietest day of the week for travel. Which will mean fewer people competing for upgrades. Also likely more seats available in business that you can be upgraded to.

At least anecdotally Qantas seem to be granting more upgrades in the past 6 months than they did previously.

But on the other hand often best to keep your expectations down. If you get it then good. If you don't then there is always next time.

power71 · Jun 30, 2012

Re: Points upgrade query

How can you check flight loads?

strance said:
qf15 on 01/08, looks promising at this stage with decent availability in business and premium fare buckets J9 C9 D9 I5 W9 R9 T9

SeatBackForward · Jun 30, 2012

power71 said:
How can you check flight loads?

http://www.expertflyer.com

Sent from an Android device, it leaves a less fruity aftertaste.

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