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Will the West Coast Eagles score a point or two in their last quarter of their next game.

Must have hit a nerve!
Eagles playing Bombers next. Not really a contest of equals.
One team is very very average, and the other is Essendon.
 
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Qlder... That is all I have to say....
 
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Qlder... That is all I have to say....
Didn't say it for very long? Glad the arrogance was shut down for a while. Hope you never ever win another game like the good old days of the 60's and 70's if you are old enough to remember those years.

P.S. Move this silly series that only Queenslander care about to pre-season or post season and allow the real rugby league competition to be played without interruption.
 
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Didn't say it for very long? Glad the arrogance was shut down for a while. Hope you never ever win another game like the good old days of the 60's and 70's if you are old enough to remember those years.

P.S. Move this silly series that only Queenslander care about to pre-season or post season and allow the real rugby league competition to be played without interruption.

Umm, well for someone who claims to know so much about rugby league you seem to know so little. State of Origin has been running since the 1980s. Last I checked that is after the 60s and 70s. State of Origin came about because all the Queensland players in the NSWRL competition where made to play for NSW in interstate games - so the reality is that Queensland probably actually won those early games that you like to claim.

It's funny how origin is so irrelevant now that NSW have lost 10 out of the last 11 series. What is astounding is the excessive celebrations and newspaper headlines when NSW win one game. Lose the series but win one game is a great send off for Gallan(t)?? Really?? :confused:
I think NSW are so downtrodden at their useless playing ability that they confuse normal with arrogance. I don't think anyone ever accused the likes of stirling, the brick with eyes et al of arrogance just because they won. NSW certainly seemed to care back in those days. What's changed now? Is this bad loser Syndrome? Or perhaps trying to mask Stockholm syndrome?
 
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Bit like elections really.
 
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Umm, well for someone who claims to know so much about rugby league you seem to know so little. State of Origin has been running since the 1980s. Last I checked that is after the 60s and 70s. State of Origin came about because all the Queensland players in the NSWRL competition where made to play for NSW in interstate games - so the reality is that Queensland probably actually won those early games that you like to claim.
They still had a state vs state series back then. One year Queensland didn't score a point in the 3 games. Not even a field goal. And then state of origin was born because of the one sidedness.

But seriously who cares about State of Origin? Queenslanders. It's the little brother syndrome. Always trying to outdo big brother.

As I said earlier. Good to see the arrogance shut down even for one game. Thoroughly got what they deserved. A shame they won the first game against the run of play then the arrogance could have been shut down for a year.
 
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They still had a state vs state series back then. One year Queensland didn't score a point in the 3 games. Not even a field goal. And then state of origin was born because of the one sidedness.

But seriously who cares about State of Origin? Queenslanders. It's the little brother syndrome. Always trying to outdo big brother.

As I said earlier. Good to see the arrogance shut down even for one game. Thoroughly got what they deserved. A shame they won the first game against the run of play then the arrogance could have been shut down for a year.

Said like a true sore loser. :p :mrgreen:
 
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They still had a state vs state series back then. One year Queensland didn't score a point in the 3 games. Not even a field goal. And then state of origin was born because of the one sidedness.

But seriously who cares about State of Origin? Queenslanders. It's the little brother syndrome. Always trying to outdo big brother.

As I said earlier. Good to see the arrogance shut down even for one game. Thoroughly got what they deserved. A shame they won the first game against the run of play then the arrogance could have been shut down for a year.

Except that the players for each state were determined by the state competition of the player, not the state of birth. NSWRL Comp had more money and got all the good players from both Queensland and NSW. So Queensland born players were in the NSW state team. Is this really that hard to understand?

Given the inability of NSW to consistently field a competitive team, it is pretty clear that little brother is NSW. Hence the need to pretend no one cares about Origin. But I assume that you think the little brother is Queensland, in which case the word "trying" is wrong. It's actually "Always outdoing big brother".
 
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Given the inability of NSW to consistently field a competitive team, it is pretty clear that little brother is NSW. Hence the need to pretend no one cares about Origin. But I assume that you think the little brother is Queensland, in which case the word "trying" is wrong. It's actually "Always outdoing big brother".

In my limited time on this Earth, the last dozen years or thereabouts have been the best for QLD. Before that when I was still in school, the shield used to go back and forth between both states rather regularly.
 
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In my limited time on this Earth, the last dozen years or thereabouts have been the best for QLD. Before that when I was still in school, the shield used to go back and forth between both states rather regularly.

Pretty much very even back then. I'm not sure of the difference now, or what has changed. Last night's game tends to suggest that one team is more professional in their approach and the other team is still in the biff mindset. A bit strange given both coaches played during the biffo period.
 
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They still had a state vs state series back then. One year Queensland didn't score a point in the 3 games. Not even a field goal. And then state of origin was born because of the one sidedness.

But seriously who cares about State of Origin? Queenslanders. It's the little brother syndrome. Always trying to outdo big brother.

As I said earlier. Good to see the arrogance shut down even for one game. Thoroughly got what they deserved. A shame they won the first game against the run of play then the arrogance could have been shut down for a year.

Said like a true sore loser. :p :mrgreen:

There is some value in looking at the underlying argument from JohnK. The old NSW vs QLD matches were a bit like City vs Country, played by lesser lights and not attracting much of a following. Qld always struggled because there were few of their best players born and bred north of the border to call on. So the series was revamped, and we finished up with just about anyone who had had a swim in Qld at some time becoming eligible.

Well now the series has become one-sided again and no one wants to face up to what should happen. I am sure we have enough decent players who were born in either QLD or NSW not to need all the other hangers-on, or we could go the RahRah way and just allow anyone to be recruited for the Reds or Sky blues. I feel we are somewhere in between at the moment and the product has lost a lot of its gloss. I haven't watched a series for about 5 years now, and I know plenty of others who's interest has waned.
 
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The State of Origin was the only League I went to, let alone watched while I lived in Sydney ( or since). Best atmosphere at the Olympic Stadium and always played hard.
 
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Pretty much very even back then. I'm not sure of the difference now, or what has changed. Last night's game tends to suggest that one team is more professional in their approach and the other team is still in the biff mindset. A bit strange given both coaches played during the biffo period.

I seem to recall a few years ago it was saying that the bulk of experienced players were in the Maroons camp. That can't last forever - sooner or later the Blues will have enough experience in their ranks and they've got to get a series soon enough.

In fact, come to think of it, the Blues won it two years ago, so it's not as if we have a huge perfect streak here - we just started another one, and who knows how long it'll go for.
 
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I seem to recall a few years ago it was saying that the bulk of experienced players were in the Maroons camp. That can't last forever - sooner or later the Blues will have enough experience in their ranks and they've got to get a series soon enough.

In fact, come to think of it, the Blues won it two years ago, so it's not as if we have a huge perfect streak here - we just started another one, and who knows how long it'll go for.

At risk of getting too on topic. history shows that experience doesn't count for everything. Just look at the first series coached by Fatty. inexperienced coach and team that won the series against all expectations. I still think mindset is the biggest factor.
 
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There is some value in looking at the underlying argument from JohnK. The old NSW vs QLD matches were a bit like City vs Country, played by lesser lights and not attracting much of a following. Qld always struggled because there were few of their best players born and bred north of the border to call on. So the series was revamped, and we finished up with just about anyone who had had a swim in Qld at some time becoming eligible.

Well now the series has become one-sided again and no one wants to face up to what should happen. I am sure we have enough decent players who were born in either QLD or NSW not to need all the other hangers-on, or we could go the RahRah way and just allow anyone to be recruited for the Reds or Sky blues. I feel we are somewhere in between at the moment and the product has lost a lot of its gloss. I haven't watched a series for about 5 years now, and I know plenty of others who's interest has waned.

Well whatever you picked apart from JohnK's argument seems more eloquent to the point than he expressed it, if that is what he was trying to get at (and I harbour my doubts - but we won't get to that here).

Oddly we wouldn't be having this same discussion if NSW had won really, but again, what's the use in speculating.

I don't know about heavily one-sided either, because like I mentioned, NSW won the Origin in 2014, breaking a long QLD streak. And before QLD had the streak, the overall score was just about even or actually favoured NSW. Although it seems that QLD "depends" more on players not actually born in its state than NSW, I'm not sure the changes or what not in the eligibility rules primarily resulted in what seems like now a "one-sided" match. The rules on eligibility do my head in.

In any case, the match hype around it still draws a lot of people. Probably not those that remember the origins of Origin (pun intended), but there's plenty of people young (and naive, as it were) enough to refill the ranks. And if they are not in the stadium, then they are surely filling up the pubs and so on, at least from where I see it. In the end, it's just another competition on the side of the main. Everyone knows that as far as using valuable players and the risks of injuries, there is a compromise to be had between playing for the State of Origin and the main NRL competition.

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At risk of getting too on topic.

Yeah, agreed. I think there is already a rugby thread around, and/or any further comment here is likely to be censured (or censored, rather).
 
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or we could go the RahRah way and just allow anyone to be recruited for the Reds or Sky blues.

that's comparing apples with oranges. The RahRah teams are equivalent to the NRL competition, where is no requirement at all for state of origin. Any [-]Blues[/-] Waratahs v Reds games are just part of a broader competition.
 
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Said like a true sore loser. :p :mrgreen:
If you knew me then you would know that statement couldn't be further from the truth.

I have a soft spot for Queensland in the cricket as they were maidens for such a long time until AB won their first shield.

I follow Brumbies but Crusaders are my favourite Super Rugby team.

State of Origin detracts from the real competition. Never liked it even in the 90's when Queensland were belted winning only 3 series.

Don't really follow any other sport to worry about interstate rivarly. It's just there to fill in time.
 
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I'll just leave this here.

wiki said:
[h=3]Series[edit][/h]
  • Earliest start: 3 May (1993)
  • Latest finish: 23 July (1985)
  • Largest aggregate crowd: 224,135 (2015)
    • With 2 games in Queensland: 187,374 (2005)[SUP][1][/SUP]
  • Smallest Crowd: 67,003 (1982)
  • Series Wins QLD: 19
  • Series Wins NSW: 14
  • Series Drawn: 2
[h=3]Matches[edit][/h]
  • Largest crowd: 91,513 at Melbourne Cricket Ground (Match 2, 2015)
  • Smallest crowd: 16,559 at Lang Park (match 3, 1984), 12,439 at Veteran's Stadium, Los Angeles, USA (1987)
  • Most points scored: 72, New South Wales d. Queensland 56-16 (match 3, 2000)
  • Least points scored: 2, Queensland d. New South Wales 2-0 (match 1, 1995)
  • Total points scored: 1457 Queensland, 1459 New South Wales (including game 1, 2012)
  • Most consecutive wins: 8, Queensland (match 2, 1987 - match 3, 1989)
  • New South Wales wins: 47
  • Queensland wins: 57
  • Drawn matches: 2
  • Largest winning margin. 46, Queensland d. New South Wales 52-6 (Match 3, 2015)
 
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I was born and bred in Sydney but always supported QLD in State of Origin.Why?Because I was a Bears supporter and a lot of their team were QLDers.There were more Bears playing for QLD than NSW hence why I followed them.North Sydney was well known as having a team of QLD scouts.So although playing in Sydney they had been born and initially played in QLD.
Although the Bears were often referred to as the easybeats they often had 3 or 4 Maroons and still the QLDers would win.More a fact of a champion team up against a team of champions.

Don't forget one of the more important Blues players,Peter Sterling was born in QLD.
 
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