Has anyone had success with the call-up "Marginal" xASA's?

[JessicaTam]

Didn't realise that.

Is the "may only" dependant upon something? I thought these booked in a class that allowed changes for fees/points....

The 'may only' refers to me being not 100% sure. I would strongly urge you to take the flights as booked. As Kangol said, it is fraught with danger to try to move them.

 

[serfty]

There is a difference between international and domestic booking validity in how such are treated.

While it's a real YMMV, in general domestic bookings can only be pushed back up to a year after initial ticketing date while with international bookings, it is a year from first booked date of travel.

Individual fare rules can override that.

I have had an interesting experience in relation to the latter.

In January I am booked to travel on an international one way JASA booking that easy originally made online in June last year for travel in June this year. In March I was able to push it out to next January.

A month or so ago I tried to change part of it and there wasan issuewith reticketing was told (to paraphrase) that it should not have been changed so far out in the first place.

 

[Princess Fiona]

There is a difference between international and domestic booking validity in how such are treated.

While it's a real YMMV, in general domestic bookings can only be pushed back up to a year after initial ticketing date while with international bookings, it is a year from first booked date of travel.

Individual fare rules can override that.

I have had an interesting experience in relation to the latter.

In January I am booked to travel on an international one way JASA booking that easy originally made online in June last year for travel in June this year. In March I was able to push it out to next January.

A month or so ago I tried to change part of it and there wasan issuewith reticketing was told (to paraphrase) that it should not have been changed so far out in the first place.

That's interesting. The QF rules I linked to indicate that if the international ticket is upgraded to a higher fare the outbound can be 1 year from the re-issue date. If the fare basis is unchanged travel must commence within 1 year of the original ticket .
Do QF treat ASA's the same as commercial fares?

 

[amaroo]

I'll call QFF next week to see what I can do with my booking a mixture of Dom/Int....will post the answer.

Would prefer to push it beyond the 12 months.

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

That's interesting. The QF rules I linked to indicate that if the international ticket is upgraded to a higher fare the outbound can be 1 year from the re-issue date. If the fare basis is unchanged travel must commence within 1 year of the original ticket .
Do QF treat ASA's the same as commercial fares?

Back in the day, you could sweet talk the premium desk to increment the ASA fare by $1 for this purpose and have it re-issued, but now the fares are no longer loaded, this might be a problematic approach.

 

[serfty]

...
Do QF treat ASA's the same as commercial fares?

They may have used to - but I sense there is some sort of resistance from the Agents these days.

As I indicated, it's been a real YMMV.

What I had done - and quite easily in the past was to take, say a LAX-xMEL-AKL after booking and moving the MEL-AKL out to link up with my 'next' one ex AKL as the date became available. More recently it has become difficult. (In the end I just used a DM 30K DM Business mile award to make the link for the last one.)

In any case, I will be trying to avoid making any further changes in my remaining JASA's.

 

[Princess Fiona]

They may have used to - but I sense there is some sort of resistance from the Agents these days.

As I indicated, it's been a real YMMV.

What I had done - and quite easily in the past was to take, say a LAX-xMEL-AKL after booking and moving the MEL-AKL out to link up with my 'next' one ex AKL as the date became available. More recently it has become difficult. (In the end I just used a DM 30K DM Business mile award to make the link for the last one.)

In any case, I will be trying to avoid making any further changes in my remaining JASA's.

Thanks
I have a SYD-MEL-LHR FASA next year. I miscalculated the timings and have given myself a stupidly long (5 hours maybe) transit in MEL. I was going to try to move to a later domestic flight but I guess I'll just wait it out at the MEL F Lounge and leave the booking well alone.

 

[cove]

Yes no changes will get Mrscove to Lifetime Gold provided she doesn't change any/all the bookings made right up to 30th June,2014. When these changes to Status Credits were announced she was about 2,000 off 14,000 so there are quite a few flights booked domestically.

 

[Buzzard]

Thanks
I have a SYD-MEL-LHR FASA next year. I miscalculated the timings and have given myself a stupidly long (5 hours maybe) transit in MEL. I was going to try to move to a later domestic flight but I guess I'll just wait it out at the MEL F Lounge and leave the booking well alone.

I' be happy to spend a lazy 5hrs in the Flounge

 

[greenfish]

I've re-timed (same day) a FASA connecting flight (BNE-SYD) post 30th June. It credited without problem.

I've re-dated a FASA LHR-BNE post 30th June (exact same flights, one day later). Also credited without problem.

As far as I'm aware, it is isn't possible to extend bookings beyond 365 days approx of original booking date. Would be great if someone could try moving a MASA beyond the 12 month window just to confirm either way

 

[Princess Fiona]

I' be happy to spend a lazy 5hrs in the Flounge

Sacrilege here I know but that's way too long for me

 

[ukh]

Today I tried to reschedule a FASA QF9 MEL-LHR. The premium desk indicated that it was possible to move this to another date if an identical Classic Awards seat was available (and keep FASA benefits of status etc). A Classic seat was not available on the date that I required but thankfully they created an extra Classic seat on the date I requested. The CSR indicated that because a new Classic award seat had to be created for the booking, I was not able to change the date of my FASA booking and had to cancel the old FASA booking and make a new Classic award first class booking. The FASA cancellation incurred a $300 cancellation fee which I have never been charged before with previous (many..) FASA cancellations. The old MASA conditions are no longer available online so I was not able to rebut their arguments as the CSR only has access to the current rules.

 

[ketsuzei]

Today I tried to reschedule a FASA QF9 MEL-LHR. The premium desk indicated that it was possible to move this to another date if an identical Classic Awards seat was available (and keep FASA benefits of status etc). A Classic seat was not available on the date that I required but thankfully they created an extra Classic seat on the date I requested. The CSR indicated that because a new Classic award seat had to be created for the booking, I was not able to change the date of my FASA booking and had to cancel the old FASA booking and make a new Classic award first class booking. The FASA cancellation incurred a $300 cancellation fee which I have never been charged before with previous (many..) FASA cancellations. The old MASA conditions are no longer available online so I was not able to rebut their arguments as the CSR only has access to the current rules.

Thanks for the information. $300 is what I was told for the cancellation fee after upgrading from a JASA (with no cancellation fee) to a FASA using cash.

(On the same MEL-LHR route)

 

[greenfish]

I was quoted $300 cancellation for my August FASA BNE-SYD-LHR when I enquired about cancelling pre 30 June. So it was probably in the originally booking T&Cs...

 

[amaroo]

I got slugged $300 for making a date change pre 30 June for one of our April FASA.....so $300 for cancellation seems reasonable.

 

[Kangol]

Moot point now, but it was reported here that JASA/FASAs are not necessarily booked into a semi-flexible set of fare rules - you can specify it at the time. Not that I've had experience with it, all of mine (bar HKG ASAs - which were apparently never fully flexible) were fully flexible.
FWIW I was not charged any change fees for my JASA -> FASA -> changed date FASA (two bookings).

 

[infinity]

Serfty has pointed this out in relation to changes to AUS/USA QF flights


Commerical Policy - Qantas USA Schedule and Flight Number Changes

The following options are available to Qantas customers holding a valid ticket issued on/before 25 August 2014 who are affected by the schedule changes to Qantas flights between Sydney, Los Angeles and New York for departures from Australia on/after 1 February 2015.

For customers holding a Qantas (081) issued ticket:

Passengers may, without fee: Reroute/Rebook travel within one day either side of original booking, (as per conditions below):

• Reroute/Rebook travel to alternate Qantas service with "QF" flight number operated by Qantas.
• Rebook travel on alternate Qantas codeshare service with "QF" flight number operated by codeshare partners in North America.
• Rebook travel to alternate flights on original ticketed carrier beyond LAX to destination

Conditions

• All changes must be made prior to the original ticketed departure.
• Travel dates must be within ticket validity.
• Except in the case of redemption classes, if the same booking class is not available, the lowest booking class within the same cabin may be booked (e.g. within Business or Economy cabin). For redemption classes, the same class must be booked.
• All other rules and conditions of the ticket remain unchanged.
• Customers are permitted to make changes as outlined in this policy. Any subsequent changes made after the ticket is reissued will be subject to the rules and conditions of the original ticketed fare purchased.

For customers holding a ticket issued by another carrier (non-081):

Passengers may, without fee:

Reroute/Rebook travel

• Rebook travel to an alternate "QF" flight number operated by Qantas within one day either side of original booking, subject to availability, in the same ticketed booking class (if the same booking class is unavailable, the lowest booking class within the same cabin may be booked (eg within Business or Economy cabin).

For customers with un-ticketed bookings:

For un-ticketed bookings, alternate flights/routings can be rebooked subject to availability and tickets issued in accordance with fare conditions.



For customers on Frequent Flyer Award Tickets:

Passengers who are travelling on Qantas & Jetstar Any Seat Award tickets are entitled to the same options and conditions as listed above.

Passengers who are travelling on Qantas & Partner Classic Award tickets are entitled to the same options and conditions as listed above provided any travel rebooked or rerouted is made on an eligible Qantas Frequent Flyer Partner Airline and any travel booked on a partner airline is subject to award seat availability. Classic Award tickets cannot be retained in credit.

Please note, any changes to bookings in redemption classes must be made in the same class as the original booking.



Ticket Reissue:

All Qantas flight changes need to be actioned (re-issued or revalidated) prior to travel, regardless of which airline the ticket is validated to.

Re-route/Re-book travel

• The agent can reissue the ticket in-house if validated to Qantas (081)
• Ticket to be reissued with no additional collection or refund
• Additional fare, surcharges, ticket taxes and change fees associated to the ticket do not apply
• All details of the original ticket to be shown on the new ticket including fare basis and fare calculation
• Authority number 603145 must be entered into the endorsement box
• Net remit tickets will not require the NR indicator
• For tickets validated to another carrier, please contact the Qantas Industry Centre for ticketing.

I have a number of FASA/JASA's from SYD/LAX or DFW/SYD that I intend to change dates on to actually use the tickets.

Tickets were booked in 6/14 for flights in 6/15.

Does the QF changes now announced present opportunities for extending or preserving MASA's within the rules of the changes??

Any thoughts??

PS The JASA's are from DFW/SYD (previously no F Class) Now that there is an A380, whats the ods of changing the JASA upto a FASA with some extra points.

Now that would be good if I could???

 

[CaviAck]

Thanks
I have a SYD-MEL-LHR FASA next year. I miscalculated the timings and have given myself a stupidly long (5 hours maybe) transit in MEL. I was going to try to move to a later domestic flight but I guess I'll just wait it out at the MEL F Lounge and leave the booking well alone.

I' be happy to spend a lazy 5hrs in the Flounge

What about 14.5 hours? I'm connecting SYD-MEL-LHR, landing in MEL at 7.30am and flying out at 11.35pm. I may or may not enjoy the food on QF9. The bed will be wonderful though lol.

 

[JessicaTam]

What about 14.5 hours? I'm connecting SYD-MEL-LHR, landing in MEL at 7.30am and flying out at 11.35pm. I may or may not enjoy the food on QF9. The bed will be wonderful though lol.

AFF lunch?

 

[ketsuzei]

PS The JASA's are from DFW/SYD (previously no F Class) Now that there is an A380, whats the ods of changing the JASA upto a FASA with some extra points.

Now that would be good if I could???

I would definitely call and ask about that. Actually, I'd ask about the cost of doing it for cash (rather than points) first.