Has Climate Change "reporting" reached "End Game'?

[Cruiser Elite]

... and some political stuff, eh?

It may appear so on the surface - but I prefer to think I am simply providing a community service to AFF in promoting activity within this thread - the echo has been deafeningly silent last day or so - just trying to kick things along

 

[stm1sydney]

One only has to rationally observe the hysterical mainsteam media headlines on global warming, the Climate Emergency mob, and the Cult of Greta, to understand that global warming is a massive hoax. Then you can confirm it is by reviewing the actual climate data.

 

[get me outta here]

I love it, "hysterical", "cults", "mobs" , massive hoax". It's sad to see these over the top 'arguments' rearing their head again.

One only has to rationally observe the hysterical mainsteam media headlines on global warming, the Climate Emergency mob, and the Cult of Greta, to understand that global warming is a massive hoax. Then you can confirm it is by reviewing the actual climate data.

 

[get me outta here]

Your wish came true.

It may appear so on the surface - but I prefer to think I am simply providing a community service to AFF in promoting activity within this thread - the echo has been deafening silent last day or so - just trying to kick things along

 

[mel-world]

One only has to rationally observe the hysterical mainsteam media headlines on global warming, the Climate Emergency mob, and the Cult of Greta, to understand that global warming is a massive hoax. Then you can confirm it is by reviewing the actual climate data.

I've reviewed the 'actual climate data' to my satisfaction over the yars and noted many worldwide weather related events. I guess, I'll just have to be a member of the Cult.

Just to keep the Thread active!!

 

[Isochronous]

You'd need a lot of faith to believe in the climate change theory as there are very little facts around to support the theory. So does that make climate change a religion?

In all seriousness if people are so passionate about climate change then stop arguing with everyone and get things done with funds out of your own pocket.

Of course that won't happen because leftists are only generous when they spend other people's money but never their own.

 

[drron]

I must ask what weather related events have been affected by Climate change?
I also keep an eye on the data and haven't seen any evidence of severe weather events becoming more frequent.
So do give me some proof.

 

[JohnK]

I love it, "hysterical", "cults", "mobs" , massive hoax". It's sad to see these over the top 'arguments' rearing their head again.

Over the top "arguments" started and continue to be used by those for climate change. They are very militant in their actions and not too worried who they offend.

I'm sitting on the fence. I've done nothing wrong yet expected to get on a bandwagon with very little facts and lots of speculation. And if I don't get on the bandwagon I'm labeled "uninformed".

Climate change is real but has been occurring for thousands of years. It was occurring before industry existed. We are not the direct cause of climate change. It is natural.

 

[OATEK]

Over the top "arguments" started and continue to be used by those for climate change. They are very militant in their actions and not too worried who they offend.

I'm sitting on the fence. I've done nothing wrong yet expected to get on a bandwagon with very little facts and lots of speculation. And if I don't get on the bandwagon I'm labeled "uninformed".

Climate change is real but has been occurring for thousands of years. It was occurring before industry existed. We are not the direct cause of climate change. It is natural.

JohnK, you are right to say climate change is natural and always with us. The area under most scrutiny is the extent to which change is exacerbated by human activity, such as burning coal and flying around the globe. This is where the contest of ideas is taking place, and at this stage i don't think we have got to half-time yet.

 

[Cruiser Elite]

I'm sitting on the fence.

Johnny there are a gazilion of us on the fence with you - if we are all honest we have no idea - regurgitating views of others does not amount to fact - or of course I might be wrong too

 

[JohnK]

Johnny there are a gazilion of us on the fence with you - if we are all honest we have no idea - regurgitating views of others does not amount to fact - or of course I might be wrong too

I never said I am right or that I know much about climate change but I look at the facts presented for climate change and if those "facts" are not made up they are certainly not believable.

And I'm sorry but to me facts are something that have occurred and can be proven not someone's opinion of what may have happened outside of our recorded history.

The other thing is climate is not weather but then why use weather to bring across the climate change argument?

So before we starting pouring billions into an endless pit please give me some proof.

 

[Cruiser Elite]

As I said Johnny gazillions of is just don’t know - sorry if I wasn’t clear above

 

[dajop]

Over the top "arguments" started and continue to be used by those for climate change. They are very militant in their actions and not too worried who they offend.

Irrespective of whether human "amplified" climate change is real not, I believe there a specific group of individuals who have a problem with capitalism per se, and these are the more militant ones. Climate change is a convenient vehicle for them, that resonates more broadly than most of the arguments they may have, so they use it.

 

[JohnK]

As I said Johnny gazillions of is just don’t know - sorry if I wasn’t clear above

You were clear. I don't know either but I was just trying to reiterate that just because someone is for climate change it doesn't mean they are right.

 

[Cruiser Elite]

just because someone is for climate change it doesn't mean they are right.

And similarly just because someone is against the climate change argument doesn’t make them right either!

Right?

RIGHT?

 

[RooFlyer]

In the words of Carl Gustav Jung (from 18 seconds):

Just a bit of levity, folks! (But its a great line to trot out ...)

 

[straitman]

And similarly just because someone is against the climate change argument doesn’t make them right either!

Right?

RIGHT?

Right

 

[JohnK]

And similarly just because someone is against the climate change argument doesn’t make them right either!

Right?

RIGHT?

Of course.

But in my mind the ones that are saying we are the cause of climate change need to provide concrete proof and that in my mind has not occurred.

Right?

 

[juddles]

With regard to this Religion of Climate Change, I think my situation should (if anyone was capable of hearing beyond their furious passion), be a sure indicator that the topic has gone way out of any claim to scientific or rational argument...

I believe the climate does change. Always has, always will. I also am not against the concept that humans with their industry may have accelerated or affected some things.

So from the Beleivers side, I should be accepted, correct? But i am not, because I dare to suggest that this is not the foremost problem of the world. Hence my underlying problem with the activists - the "Gretini" They just want to chant and feel good about chanting. They do not want to come anywhere near other real eco problems such as a population that is increasing at a mind-boggling rate... I get the argument against economies desiring "growth', but when it comes down to true reality of population growth they are silent.

I have never met Greta, and likewise I have never met a single proponent of the Climate Change religion who does not live a life that violates their ideals at least twenty times a day...

 

[mel-world]

Quote in NINE media from Science Minister Karen Andrews today shows continued uncertainty from the Government - expect her to be put back in her place anytime soon:

Ms Andrews warned unnecessary debate could distract from the urgent need to develop new bushfire adaptation and mitigation techniques. Her intervention is another step in the Coalition's recent shift in rhetoric over climate change, after a decade of divisions over the issue dominating the party room.

"My starting position in the discussion tomorrow will be that the climate has changed and it continues to change," Ms Andrews said. "We need to focus on the steps to adapt and mitigate the impact of those changes."

Also polling from the (admittedly 'progressive' think tank), the Australia Institute shows that only 23% of the polled Australians now disagree that the Government should take action to mitigate climate change.