Has Climate Change "reporting" reached "End Game'?

[drron]

Another group vying already for twits of 2020.
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Despite the invitation for others to add to the debate nothing has been supplied.So here is another rebuttal from a fellow who did the modelling for Australia's CO2 emissions.Remember the whole AGW argument is based on computer modelling.A long video but worth it.

 

[Deleted member]

I can't help but think you have missed the news, told by NZ actor Sam Neill with just that right sense of authenticity, that the ABC is there to tell the truth! We have moved on from reporting news, giving different voices the chance to be heard. We are now confident that the ABC knows the truth and will make sure we all hear it!

Or at least something that can be construed as the truth !

 

[banana boy]

I'll just leave this here.

 

[drron]

First the 97% of scientists supporting the AGW view has been completely debunked whether it is the earlier Naomi oreskes paper or the later John cook paper.Totally confected.
Secondly the Billionaires and oil companies are actually bankrolling the warmists.oil companies because they also have gas interests and whilst we waste money on renewables the gas companies know they have it made.

Unreliable Nature Of Solar And Wind Makes Electricity More Expensive, New Study Finds

Solar panels and wind turbines are making electricity significantly more expensive, a major new study by a team of economists from the University of Chicago finds.

www.forbes.com

 

[ajd]

Did anyone pay to carbon offset their flights in 2019?

Yes.

I support a particular overseas charity which does highly cost-effective (IIRC, <$2 per tCO2e reduced) anti-deforestation work in the name of both CO2 abatement and indigenous land rights protection. They get a monthly donation from me and also occasional one-offs. I hope that between that and the solar farm which I part-own, my total emissions across all areas of my life are at least more than adequately offset for the time being.

 

[Quickstatus]

im suspicious about most offset programs because the actual is offset against estimated and all that is traded are pieces of paper. Once money is in play, the risk of dodgy schemes is high. Is the sequestration permanent or temporary?. Is the accounting robust and independent.

one only needs to look at the timber plantation tax rorts of the past to know how it could potentially end up.

 

[JohnK]

You'd need a lot of faith to believe in the climate change theory as there are very little facts around to support the theory. So does that make climate change a religion?

In all seriousness if people are so passionate about climate change then stop arguing with everyone and get things done with funds out of your own pocket.

 

[jakeseven7]

In all seriousness if people are so passionate about climate change then stop arguing with everyone and get things done with funds out of your own pocket.

In all seriousness, people can do both right...

 

[get me outta here]

Cat > pigeons. Discuss.
How Murdoch influences : How Rupert Murdoch Is Influencing Australia’s Bushfire Debate

 

[drron]

An article taken from the Guardian.A paper with a far less political diversity than the Murdoch press.
Their arson bit is laughable.
Before this year there have been studies of the causes of bushfires.Very consistently ~ 35% Arson,15% suspected arson,35% accidental-eg angle grinders,camp fires,gigs etc.
So their claim only 3% of fires due to arson is wrong.
Also saying the Murdoch press has exaggerated arson is wrong.The Australian reported 183 people arrested for arson-the Guardian said 24.
However 24 is the number arrested in NSW.there are also 120 plus in NSW cautioned-roughly a third on suspicion of lighting fires,a third for things such as throwing away cig butts and a third (IMHO the worst group) for looting burnt homes.
But 101 caught lighting fires in QLD (but the 69 juveniles will likely be let off with a caution),10 in SA,43 in Vic and 4 in Tasmania.Adds up to 183.

 

[get me outta here]

As in Damien Cave of the NYT?

 

[drron]

The NYT article is basically a reprint of what was said in the guardian-i thought you would have read that by now.A very similiar article also on the ABC website.

 

[get me outta here]

By the same author?

The NYT article is basically a reprint of what was said in the guardian-i thought you would have read that by now.A very similiar article also on the ABC website.

 

[drron]

By the same author?

Different author but basically the same story.Don't tell me you expect journalists to go out and seek their own sources.It is a great big echo chamber out there.

 

[drron]

Cat > pigeons. Discuss.
How Murdoch influences : How Rupert Murdoch Is Influencing Australia’s Bushfire Debate

Have now found the same article on news.com.au.Same experts,same quotes and same nasty bots.
The bots one is really way out.The fellow who started the #arsonemergency describes himself as an old gay male who likes to cook a good evening meal for his husband.each day he posts a picture of the meal he cooks.Pretty good IMHO.

 

[drron]

And here is an extremist group that are truthful in their aims.Admit renewables are hopeless just want to destroy capitalism.

Green Technology & Renewable Energy

Are "renewable" energy and "green" technology real solutions to environmental problems? Read why industrial fixes like solar and wind can't save the earth.

deepgreenresistance.org

"
The emissions reductions that renewables intend to achieve could be easily accomplished by improving the efficiency of existing coal plants, businesses, and homes, at a much lower cost. Within the context of industrial civilization, this approach makes more sense both economically and environmentally.


That this approach is not being taken shows that the whole renewables industry is nothing but profiteering. It benefits no one other than the investors."

 

[Cruiser Elite]

It is a great big echo chamber out there.

Seems a bit of an echo chamber in this thread too?

 

[drron]

Seems a bit of an echo chamber in this thread too?

Come up with science then lad.No one has taken up my challenge so you can be first.
By the way my comment about the echo chamber was because the NYT article linked was the same as articles in the guardian and on the Fairfax,ABC and News websites.

 

[RooFlyer]

Seems a bit of an echo chamber in this thread too?

Debate has been invited but not accepted. Its always better if there is a 'contest of ideas' but you can't force it.
Edit: Debate not meaning simply quoting on-line sources etc. Say what you know and argue a point!

 

[get me outta here]

Not to mention lots of urging.

Seems a bit of an echo chamber in this thread too?