How will Ukraine Situation affect travel

[AisleSeat]

Apparently all EU countries will be closing their airspace for Russian airlines. Nothing confirmed though yet

 

[Must...Fly!]

Apparently all EU countries will be closing their airspace for Russian airlines. Nothing confirmed though yet

Finland just announced they will close to Russian airlines. Presuming a retaliation from Russia, puts Finnair's eastern operations in to some doubt.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1497616981016690692

 

[antycbr]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1497616981016690692

Perhaps it’s time for NATO to conduct military drills on that route and issue some NOTAMs.

Same approach that the Russians did for their exercises.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Finland just announced they will close to Russian airlines. Presuming a retaliation from Russia, puts Finnair's eastern operations in to some doubt.

Lucky the Earth isn't flat.

 

[Jenya]

The Russian aviation authorities plan to act in a mirror manner and close the airspace for all countries that are the first to ban Russian airlines

 

[antycbr]

The Russian aviation authorities plan to act in a mirror manner and close the airspace for all countries that are the first to ban Russian airlines

Looks like the Middle Eastern air routes are going to be very busy indeed.

 

[dajop]

Looks like the Middle Eastern air routes are going to be very busy indeed.

Yes, remembering as well that Syria and Afghanistan are off limits, and Iran is as well for some carriers.

 

[antycbr]

Yes, remembering as well that Syria and Afghanistan are off limits, and Iran is as well for some carriers.

Expecting more phone calls to ANC no doubt over the coming hours/days.

 

[Jenya]

Lufthansa has not just announced the cancellation of flights over Russia, but terning its flights midair, sending them back to Germany

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Lufthansa has not just announced the cancellation of flights over Russia, but terning its flights midair, sending them back to Germany

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That looks like 1/3 of the way there. Probably should have kept going. The laws take time to draw up and then Russia needs to draw up laws to retaliate.

 

[Melburnian1]

Looks like the Middle Eastern air routes are going to be very busy indeed.

While FR24 and similar accentuate it, these already look busier than 'COVID-19 normal'.

Won't the Ukrainian war cause many from our land to opt out of travelling not just to Eastern Europe, but Western Europe and the UK as well?

Perceptions are what matters. Commonsense may go out the window, although one can understand the nervousness.

 

[jase05]

While FR24 and similar accentuate it, these already look busier than 'COVID-19 normal'.

Won't the Ukrainian war cause many from our land to opt out of travelling not just to Eastern Europe, but Western Europe and the UK as well?

Perceptions are what matters. Commonsense may go out the window, although one can understand the nervousness.

Still scheduled to travel to Europe in October and was hoping for a short trip over a bit earlier aswell. I’d have no hesitation heading there but the conflict would definitely affect my choice of airlines. With the UAE‘s pathetic stance I’m seriously looking at adding them to my banned list

 

[justinbrett]

Still scheduled to travel to Europe in October and was hoping for a short trip over a bit earlier aswell. I’d have no hesitation heading there but the conflict would definitely affect my choice of airlines. With the UAE‘s pathetic stance I’m seriously looking at adding them to my banned list

If this is still going on in October it’s likely will be in a full on world war by then. In which case travel between continents is going to be limited.

I don’t think it’s likely however. This will end one way or another pretty soon - or at least to the level where it’s no longer having a global impact.

 

[jrfsp]

Still scheduled to travel to Europe in October and was hoping for a short trip over a bit earlier aswell. I’d have no hesitation heading there but the conflict would definitely affect my choice of airlines. With the UAE‘s pathetic stance I’m seriously looking at adding them to my banned list

The irony here is the ME airlines will be the least affected and may actually gain from all this. There is already talk of them adding capacity.

I also take it you wont be flying QF while they continue to fly over russia and make payments to the russian ATC ?

 

[Jenya]

Delta suspends code-share agreement with Aeroflot​

• The Atlanta-based airline will no longer partner with the Russian aviation company
• Delta does not fly direct to Russia or the Ukraine, but the code share agreement meant people could use its website to book Aeroflot flights there
• KLM Dutch Royal Airlines has also cancelled some Russia services
• Aeroflot still flies to New York, Miami, Washington, D.C. and Los Angeles
• Prime Minister Boris Johnson banned Aeroflot flights from landing in the UK
• Russia retaliated by banning UK flights across its airspace
• The move could prove pricey for British flyers do to rerouting and additional fuel costs
• Aeroflot could also suffer from the flyover ban, the company makes $420 million in charges for its airspace

 

[harvyk]

If this is still going on in October it’s likely will be in a full on world war by then. In which case travel between continents is going to be limited.

I doubt it, this isn't the time to holiday in the Ukraine, and I suspect Taiwan will be looking at China nervously right now, but in each case these are territories that Russia / China (the government) feel belong to them already.

We see Russia attack someone every couple of years, typically those who used to be part of the USSR.

But at this stage I would suggest this is more like a Gulf War 1, and less like a WW3.

So to bring this back to the propose of this thread, you're probably going to have more to fear from random COVID rule changes than the that of WW3 breaking out.

 

[OATEK]

While FR24 and similar accentuate it, these already look busier than 'COVID-19 normal'.

Won't the Ukrainian war cause many from our land to opt out of travelling not just to Eastern Europe, but Western Europe and the UK as well?

Perceptions are what matters. Commonsense may go out the window, although one can understand the nervousness.

We have decided to continue with our visit to UK next week, and a further one in August. naturally we are concerned, but having flown to London with 2 small girls during the era of IRA bombings we probably have a different risk appetite to others.

 

[justinbrett]

I doubt it, this isn't the time to holiday in the Ukraine, and I suspect Taiwan will be looking at China nervously right now, but in each case these are territories that Russia / China (the government) feel belong to them already.

We see Russia attack someone every couple of years, typically those who used to be part of the USSR.

But at this stage I would suggest this is more like a Gulf War 1, and less like a WW3.

So to bring this back to the propose of this thread, you're probably going to have more to fear from random COVID rule changes than the that of WW3 breaking out.

I think you completely missed my post.

But yes, I agree with your post. Possibly you only read the first sentence of mine.

 

[geoffro_22]

Looks like there is a story on the Australian saying QF is diverting away from Russian airspace. Don't have a subscription though.