JQ/3K moving to T4 at SIN in March 2023 :-(

[kpc]

Wonder why Changi didn't build a train connection to T4

 

[mel-world]

Its quite a long way from T1 and would involve going under the cross taxiways south of T2/T3. Not impossible in SIN but I have never seen a plan for a train.

 

[SYD]

Its quite a long way from T1 and would involve going under the cross taxiways south of T2/T3. Not impossible in SIN but I have never seen a plan for a train.
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Still quite a few years away (~2030s), but T5 has been rebooted and will be as big as T1/2/3/4 combined plus a new train connection. It’s unclear what interconnections there will?

 

[clifford]

Wonder why Changi didn't build a train connection to T4

Because T4 was originally a low cost carrier terminal, and didn't warrant any kind of frills.

 

[henrus]

Because T4 was originally a low cost carrier terminal, and didn't warrant any kind of frills.

If you're talking about the days when it was the budget terminal then sure.

But T4 has all been about traffic originating and terminating in Singapore hence you have Cathay who's bulk of pax end/start in SIN.

I've flown 3K twice this week and most are transiting which will make many people's lives harder if a bus is involved.

 

[MH_fan]

Just what premium long haul QF and AY customers want, to fly JQ half way to Europe hidden under a QF or AY code.

And you don't even get the full service package (as my friend recently found out on the AY codeshare)!

 

[alphahelix]

Jetstar Asia has withered away into nothing. Entered the pandemic with 17 aircraft. Now down to 7, those missing all got sent to Australia and added onto VH Register, plus a few back to the lessor. I really don't think they are going back.

Scooter will have nearly 50 A320/1s by the end of the year. Plus 20 787s. Huge operation in SIN.

clearly why Scoot remains in T1.

 

[moa999]

It's interesting also that they haven't reopened the T2-T4 bus
From what I understood the southern part of T2 (the closest part to T4) reopened in October. The northern part is still undergoing renovation and won't open until 2024.

Flights at T2
- Singapore Airlines (to/from Malaysia, Thailand, Brunei, Cambodia, Indonesia, Myanmar, the Philippines and Vietnam
- Air India
- Air India Express

Jetstar Asia has withered away into nothing. Entered the pandemic with 17 aircraft. Now down to 7

Definitely a shame to see what has happened there.
Suspect related to the shareholding structure with the requirement for a local to have 51%, and the partner not having or willing to invest more $s.

Jetstar Japan has also transferred aircraft back to Aus.

 

[jrfsp]

Are there plans to grow 3K again?

 

[Saab34]

Are there plans to grow 3K again?

They never really even announced they were retreating. I guess once all the A321s arrive they might send some A320s back up. However I reckon they would send them to Japan before Singapore.

Rewind to 2013 when the fleet was 23 aircraft. Went into Covid with 18 and now 7.

Bit hard however to try and increase capacity when Scoot has already absorbed the lost market share.

 

[Bolt]

Having travelled to Bangkok via Singapore, the JQ experience there was never any good. You need to go through security again, even though you remain airside at Singapore, and throw out your expensive airport water so that you can buy another in Singapore. Then, the lounge was only ever open from around 6PM-10PM anyway. The Jetstar flights all arrived at Singapore in the middle of the day.

 

[jrfsp]

Having travelled to Bangkok via Singapore, the JQ experience there was never any good. You need to go through security again, even though you remain airside at Singapore, and throw out your expensive airport water so that you can buy another in Singapore. Then, the lounge was only ever open from around 6PM-10PM anyway. The Jetstar flights all arrived at Singapore in the middle of the day.

Thats the same for all airlines flying out of SIN. T4 might actually have centralised security, which theorectically would require security check prior to boarding the transfer bus from T1/2/3.

Pre covid the lounge used to open at 2pm i think

 

[dajop]

Having travelled to Bangkok via Singapore, the JQ experience there was never any good. You need to go through security again, even though you remain airside at Singapore, and throw out your expensive airport water so that you can buy another in Singapore. Then, the lounge was only ever open from around 6PM-10PM anyway. The Jetstar flights all arrived at Singapore in the middle of the day.

If you fly internationally just about anywhere in the world you have to go through security again before your onward travel. Mostly these are at central security points to move from arrivals to departures concourse, the main standouts being Singapore and Kuala Lumpur T1, where security is at the gate. Even in Australia, if you're transiting from one international flight to another you need to go through security. The main exceptions to this rule are travelling internationally within Europe or transfering from domestic to international flights within the US.

BTW, at Singapore, you don't need to buy another expensive bottle of water at the airport, drink or empty your water before security, but don't throw out the container, just refill it at a drinking water tap once through security.

 

[henrus]

Thats the same for all airlines flying out of SIN. T4 might actually have centralised security, which theorectically would require security check prior to boarding the transfer bus from T1/2/3.

T4 does have centralised security which means a slightly better experience departing.

Pre covid the lounge used to open at 2pm i think

Currently it's opening at ~3pm and closing just before midnight when QF1 to LHR boards.

 

[clifford]

T4 does have centralised security which means a slightly better experience departing.

Indeed, and it's a vast improvement over the other terminals in that regard.

 

[AIRwin]

JQ has updated its website accordingly:

https://www.jetstar.com/au/en/help/articles/airports-and-terminals?pid=menu:airports-and-terminals#au_nz_int

 

[henrus]

JQ has updated its website accordingly:

Booking system has also been updated. It shows that the JQ operated 787 flights to MEL will remain in T1 whilst the 3K flights will move to T4.

 

[jrfsp]

Booking system has also been updated. It shows that the JQ operated 787 flights to MEL will remain in T1 whilst the 3K flights will move to T4.

Seems strange to keep JQ in T1!

Only add to the confusion

 

[henrus]

Seems strange to keep JQ in T1!

I think it has something to do with 3K only being allocated narrow body gates in T4. T4 only has 4 gates capable of handling wide body aircraft which are most likely already allocated to Cathay and Korean Air.

 

[Bolt]

Just about to book a Jetstar flight BKK-SIN in January. From what I understand, it won't be changing to T4 until 25th of March, 2023. My onwards flight with QANTAS is from T1.