JQ travel to earn FF points - for a Fee [even in 'Business']

[LiamR]

I have a feeling for the plus bundle, it will be around $40 extra on the starter fare for domestic and $80 for international.
Which would include the QFF points and SC's, free seat selection, and the waiving of the change fee (not incl fare diff.)


Unsure weather if you can just add on the FF point's option as a stand alone choice anymore.

You have a feeling? I trust that feeling...

I would consider $30 for domestic, and about $60-$70 extra as reasonable. Currently for $10 I can take a bag and pick a seat. Is the extra $30 worth the 1000 points?

 

[TheInsider]

You have a feeling? I trust that feeling...

I would consider $30 for domestic, and about $60-$70 extra as reasonable. Currently for $10 I can take a bag and pick a seat. Is the extra $30 worth the 1000 points?

But also removes that $40 internet change fee.

 

[LiamR]

But also removes that $40 internet change fee.

I guess your right, and that is for the customer to decide if it is really worth it?

I change flights all the time at work, but thats in J and there is almost always no cost.

When I fly JQ, like most people, its usually for a holiday or something along those lines, those types of flights are usually set in stone, and rarley change.

I personally don't want a product like that as an add on... But others may.

 

[BVT]

I reckon you'll probably earn 5 SCs and 500 points (or even the actual mileage) between, say, SYD and MEL instead of the 10SCs and 1000 points on QF between those 2 cities on a discounted fare. It should be enough to differentiate QF from JQ and be enough to sway some DJ customers away. Very clever on the part of the Qantas Group.

I have suggested this to JQ many tiimes, when asked to do one of those surveys. I live on the Gold Coast and fly from OOL often, although usually on JetFlex fares, so I get SC's and miles anyway. I would even choose SC's over miles, if that was an option.

 

[BVT]

When does this take effect? By right, it should only apply to new bookings made after the new rules have been published. I will be mightily pissed off if I don't get to earn SCs on my upcoming *Class flights, which I booked earlier in the year.
Anyway, with these new rules, it looks like JQ will be losing my patronage forever for international flights. Earning SCs was the only reason I'd take their *Class over a full-serviced airline's business class.

+1

It seems illogical, not to mention inequitable, that a discount "Buisness" fare will not earn SC's or miles, when a full economy fare equivalent does??

 

[TheInsider]

Anyone remember the survey done last year or some time ago about JQ *class fare changes and what people would prefer? That's probably where they got this idea from.

Of course some people on here will not like the changes and will go along the same done to death 'enhancement' line, but the AFF demographic is obviously not JQ's target market. Alot of people probably wouldn't care or even know what a status credit is!

Maybe for something different lets see what 'good' things eventuate, as nothing will please everyone.

 

[samh004]

+1

It seems illogical, not to mention inequitable, that a discount "Buisness" fare will not earn SC's or miles, when a full economy fare equivalent does??

Surely it depends if the cheap J fare ends up costing less than the flexibly Y fare or not. This could be a sign after all, that they’re going to offer some ridiculously cheap sales.

 

[JohnPhelan]

Surely it depends if the cheap J fare ends up costing less than the flexibly Y fare or not. This could be a sign after all, that they’re going to offer some ridiculously cheap sales.

I did a search last night on a JQ international fare (HNL-SYD later this year) and the flexible Y fare was $300 dearer than the Starclass fare !!

 

[BVT]

I did a search last night on a JQ international fare (HNL-SYD later this year) and the flexible Y fare was $300 dearer than the Starclass fare !!

Most of the *class fares that I buy are cheaper than the JetFlex fare.

 

[MH_fan]

I've never understood that. Can someone explain that rationale?

 

[samh004]

I did a search last night on a JQ international fare (HNL-SYD later this year) and the flexible Y fare was $300 dearer than the Starclass fare !!

Most of the *class fares that I buy are cheaper than the JetFlex fare.

Well there we go, they’re closing a hole that allowed you to book a higher class and get more points… for less money.

 

[Timtammi]

When does this take effect? By right, it should only apply to new bookings made after the new rules have been published. I will be mightily pissed off if I don't get to earn SCs on my upcoming *Class flights, which I booked earlier in the year.
Anyway, with these new rules, it looks like JQ will be losing my patronage forever for international flights. Earning SCs was the only reason I'd take their *Class over a full-serviced airline's business class.

+2

I've got 3 cheapie *class promo fares booked for over the next few months. While the website claims that we will get what we booked/paid for it also says that they will reissue the itins/tickets with the new monikers. So I get a new itin that says business instead of *class and what happens when I have to fight to get my points/SC's from QF, they will say its not eligible? (as only Business Max will be eligible right?). I can just see this being a mess in the transition of the rules...

Also, I need to book 4 more return tix to Bangkok for Oct. Do I risk booking *class today (and everyone supposedly get SC's and points) or do I wait and see if the new "business" is any cheaper (as the SC's and points only really matter to 2 of us)... Decisions.. Decisions.

Who here thinks the new "business" (without any benefits) will generall by cheaper than the current *class with the benefits? Or are they going to charge the same (for less) and then have a more expensive product with the bells and whistles inclusions?

cheers

Timmi

 

[thewinchester]

I've got 3 cheapie *class promo fares booked for over the next few months. While the website claims that we will get what we booked/paid for it also says that they will reissue the itins/tickets with the new monikers. So I get a new itin that says business instead of *class and what happens when I have to fight to get my points/SC's from QF, they will say its not eligible? (as only Business Max will be eligible right?). I can just see this being a mess in the transition of the rules...

Short answer - no, and stop moaning because you might not get the points you're entitled to first time around, it happens.

From the Booking changes page, your existing *class promo fare will still qualify for points in the same way and levels as it did before:

If you originally booked a...: StarClass Promo (Sale)
Your fare will be changed to a...: Business + retain lounge access + Qantas Frequent Flyers earn Qantas Frequent Flyer points and Status credits
So this means you get...: Exactly the same inclusions and equivalent conditions as you had before.
And differences you may notice will be..: Your itinerary and boarding pass will say “Business” instead of “StarClass” Your boarding pass will have a LNGE code printed which will give you lounge access

I suspect that to deal with any earning issues, the replacement fare type would be loaded into a Fare Category in the new system which earns points - so their systems transfer the correct points accordingly, and relevant agents can see that points applied to your booking with no confusion.

And if there is any problems, you should have the original PNR showing the date of booking, and can refer the agent to the above page if any issues do arise.

 

[Timtammi]

thewinchester - I know that is what they say but I'm wondering how tricky it will get if you have to apply for points/Sc's because they don't post (which is already often the case!) as my booking will show as "business" by then in the system. I'm just wondering how they will differentiate between the old *class ->now "business" but you get the old deal because you booked before the change and the new "business" which does not get the extras. Maybe the booking classes show in the system differently??

 

[thewinchester]

thewinchester - I know that is what they say but I'm wondering how tricky it will get if you have to apply for points/Sc's because they don't post (which is already often the case!) as my booking will show as "business" by then in the system. I'm just wondering how they will differentiate between the old *class ->now "business" but you get the old deal because you booked before the change and the new "business" which does not get the extras. Maybe the booking classes show in the system differently??

Like anything when change is involved, some things won't work the first time. All you can do is be paitent and respectful while the powers that be sort things out, and hope their change management strategies do as much as possible to ensure problems don't occur.

 

[TheInsider]

I'm also thinking that the Business Max Bundle will be around $200 extra.

 

[TheInsider]

Like anything when change is involved, some things won't work the first time. All you can do is be paitent and respectful while the powers that be sort things out, and hope their change management strategies do as much as possible to ensure problems don't occur.

What also has to be taken into account is they don't just change their product at a drop of a hat. There are months and maybe years of planning, with all different situations taken into account. I highly doubt there would be one thing they haven't thought about or tested.
Based on the transition JQ are going through EVERY booking on BL, VF, 3K, and JQ and changing them manually to what is now required.

 

[Timtammi]

I'm also thinking that the Business Max Bundle will be around $200 extra

Thanks for that, so should I be "thinking" this means a differential between the 2 types of new business fares of about that much or a premium on what is available now?

I'm just trying to decide whether I should book more tix today or risk paying more tomorrow!!

 

[samh004]

I'm also thinking that the Business Max Bundle will be around $200 extra.

You say that as if you have access to (and can see) things we don’t

I'm just trying to decide whether I should book more tix today or risk paying more tomorrow!!

Book today, clearly.

 

[TheInsider]

Thanks for that, so should I be "thinking" this means a differential between the 2 types of new business fares of about that much or a premium on what is available now?

I'm just trying to decide whether I should book more tix today or risk paying more tomorrow!!

All fare classes will have the option of a;
-Starter Fare (Even V/Y and D/J)
-Plus Bundle (Even V/Y and D/J)
-Max Bundle (Will only be the equivilent of V/Y and D/J classes now)