MH 777 missing - MH370 media statement

[markis10]

BREAKING WSJ EXCLUSIVE: Engine monitoring data shows missing 777 was airborne for five hours -sources http://on.wsj.com/1lYw4kp

 

[QF WP]

ReutersAerospaceNews ‏@ReutersAero 18m
Vietnam search finds no wreckage at location where China satellite shows possible plane debris - Reuters witness

Whaatttt? Another blind corner?

 

[QF WP]

David Koenig ‏@airlinewriter 43m
Malaysia Airlines will retire flight numbers #MH370 and MH371. Company statement: http://bit.ly/1k1DIqV

 

[jetlagger]

How even more frustrating this has become..

 

[QF WP]

Gives me no confidence in travelling with MH... or going to Malaysia for a holiday expecting that if something happened, it will be actioned.

 

[serfty]

Escaping the WSJ "Firewall": http://online.wsj.com/news/articles...0001424052702304914904579434653903086282.html

From the article

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Andy Pasztor

Updated March 13, 2014 12:50 a.m. ET

U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines 3786.KU -2.04% Flight 370 stayed in the air for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky.

Aviation investigators and national security officials believe the plane flew for a total of five hours based on data automatically downloaded and sent to the ground from the Boeing Co. BA -0.99% 777's engines as part of a routine maintenance and monitoring program.

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The engines' onboard monitoring system is provided by their manufacturer, Rolls-Royce PLC, and it periodically sends bursts of data about engine health, operations and aircraft movements to facilities on the ground. Rolls-Royce couldn't immediately be reached for comment.

As part of its maintenance agreements, Malaysia Airlines transmits its engine data live to Rolls-Royce for analysis. The system compiles data from inside the 777's two Trent 800 engines and transmits snapshots of performance, as well as the altitude and speed of the jet.

Those snippets are compiled and transmitted in 30-minute increments, said one person familiar with the system. According to Rolls-Royce's website, the data is processed automatically "so that subtle changes in condition from one flight to another can be detected."

The engine data is being analyzed to help determine the flight path of the plane after the transponders stopped working. The jet was originally headed for China, and its last verified position was half way across the Gulf of Thailand.

A total flight time of five hours after departing Kuala Lumpur means the Boeing 777 could have continued for an additional distance of about 2,200 nautical miles, reaching points as far as the Indian Ocean, the border of Pakistan or even the Arabian Sea, based on the jet's cruising speed.

 

[JohnPhelan]

So, if this WSJ report is correct, and the Reuters report is correct about no wreckage at the Chinese-identified site, we're probably back to the "changed course to the west and flew to the Andaman Sea/Indian Ocean" theory......

 

[jlien]

BREAKING WSJ EXCLUSIVE: Engine monitoring data shows missing 777 was airborne for five hours -sources http://on.wsj.com/1lYw4kp

I don't have a subscription, care to pot up an excerpt?

 

[serfty]

I don't have a subscription, care to pot up an excerpt?

See link in post #886

 

[Archphoto]

So, if this WSJ report is correct, and the Reuters report is correct about no wreckage at the Chinese-identified site, we're probably back to the "changed course to the west and flew to the Andaman Sea/Indian Ocean" theory......

If it did indeed "change course" - with so many theories flying around, and very little hard evidence proving/disproving said theories, we could be in the dark for another month at this rate.

I saw an interview with one of the Australian family's, and the thing that struck me most, was that they just want to know where the plane is to help them start to come to terms with this disaster. I can't even imagine what any of the families and friends must be going through, and so many "facts/reports/possibilities" must be killing them.

 

[drron]

Just to remind people if you come up against a pay wall just google the headline of the article to get past-works on the wsj too.

 

[QF WP]

Airways Magazine ‏@airwaysmagazine 2m

With the WSJ reporting #MH370 was in the air for 4 more hours, it could be anywhere in this circle. Via @petchmo pic.twitter.com/0ZSbWk1g7g

which puts it squarely into possibly being in the Top End of Australia - maybe they wanted to come here instead

 

[Archphoto]

Good grief! If the report is indeed true, how will they ever find it?

 

[FlyboyAl]

Fox news on TV in the US have just confirmed that the Chinese images are the missing aircraft, and their experts have decided it was terrorism.
What more is there to say - they have it sorted!
Then they hammered the Malaysians for how badly they have handled it.
I'm sorry, but I'll believe it when I see close ups of the aircraft.
The media hype is just sickening

 

[jlien]

Good grief! If the report is indeed true, how will they ever find it?

With great difficulty unfortunately.

Hoping that there's enough data from the engines to determine at least a direction the plane headed.

 

[SeatBackForward]

Escaping the WSJ "Firewall": U.S. Investigators Suspect Missing Airplane Flew On for Hours - WSJ.com

From the article

Surely if it sent a signal, they'd know *where* that signal was sent from, or at least received from? It can't all possibly go from all parts of the world to a single source in one go.

 

[markis10]

Surely if it sent a signal, they'd know *where* that signal was sent from, or at least received from? It can't all possibly go from all parts of the world to a single source in one go.

Only if the signal was geotagged or all transmissions were triangulated, neither of which occurs with ACARS.

 

[SeatBackForward]

Only if the signal was geotagged or all transmissions were triangulated, neither of which occurs with ACARS.

From the WSJ article:

The engines' onboard monitoring system is provided by their manufacturer, Rolls-Royce PLC, and it periodically sends bursts of data about engine health, operations and aircraft movements to facilities on the ground. Rolls-Royce couldn't immediately be reached for comment.

Which facility received this burst of data, that should give better indication of where the plane was four hours later.

 

[markis10]

From the WSJ article:

Which facility received this burst of data, that should give better indication of where the plane was four hours later.

Rolls Royce receive the data, MH have already said they dont get ACARS bursts from aircraft as the service was not one they subscribed to. I am not sure why you think any geographical update would result, although I am sure the RCC would have loved to know the engines were working for four hours a while ago.

 

[JohnPhelan]

Rolls Royce receive the data, MH have already said they dont get ACARS bursts from aircraft as the service was not one they subscribed to.

I suspect there's a few things MH doesn't subscribe to .........