NBN Discussion

[Quickstatus]

Good idea. DIYseems a sensible solution. Maximum distance for cat 6 is about 100mtrs. May need a relay or switch half way to ensure good speed.

But, will they allow one to connect to their FTTC/P?

Build cabinet at fence line and terminate copper to NTD inside cabinet. NTD has Ethernet out
Extend Cat6 via optical converters to trenches fibre then reconvert back to copper

Or NTD Ethernet out to 5Ghz Wifi point to point like an AirMax Ubiquiti.

Totally ahead of myself here as NBN could just as easily flick me back to FW.

 

[Buzzard]

Apparently we are now getting FTTN and not FTTC like I was originally led to believe. When it arrives, I'm thinking of going with Aussie Broadband 25 plan, ditching iiNet, my ADSL provider.

 

[Quickstatus]

Apparently we are now getting FTTN and not FTTC like I was originally led to believe. When it arrives, I'm thinking of going with Aussie Broadband 25 plan, ditching iiNet, my ADSL provider.

What ADSL speeds are you getting currently?

 

[moa999]

FTTC (and FTTN) should deliver 100/40 to 400-500m, so a 110m driveway shouldn't be that bad if the FTTC node is close.

The other suggestions of Cat6/PtP WiFi might be applicable for g.fast/xg.fast (reportedly the NetComm units will be g.fast capable).

Also appears that the NBN has shifted many HFC/FTTN properties to FTTC.

Not yet shown on the NBN website, but is shown on a few RSPs that do live queries.
Try your address (or next door's here)
Aussiebroadband POI Checker

I've seen changes mentioned in Melbourne's South-East and Sydney's North Shore, but likely many more

 

[Quickstatus]

The other suggestions of Cat6/PtP WiFi might be applicable for g.fast/xg.fast (reportedly the NetComm units will be gfast capable

Not the current ones apparently. But gFast require even shorter copper for the benefit.

But whatever the “Fast” I’ll most likely still get CVC “slow”

As to Cat6/PtP once the build is done I would not be surprised if the NBN will be like talking to the Wailing Wall of Jerusalem when it comes to asking them to terminate the copper at the fenceline.

The suburb next to mine iis still FW. I can only see FW as an option if NBN changes its mind about me. Nothing set in stone until I see the Roll of Green fibre in my street

 

[RB]

Apparently we are now getting FTTN and not FTTC like I was originally led to believe. When it arrives, I'm thinking of going with Aussie Broadband 25 plan, ditching iiNet, my ADSL provider.

We are moving soon to a new house with FTTP. Currently I have narrowed it down to Aussie Broadband & Telecube- both seem to have good representation on Whirlpool & there is some good discussion on there

 

[moa999]

Yep both have good reps for not having peak hour congestion.

Aussie is probably the bigger company.
Telecube was a VOIP provider (I use their other brand SipTalk) that more recently expanded into NBN.

Lucky you getting FTTP.

 

[Quickstatus]

Is Aussie Broadband present at all the POIs?

I wonder how many FTTP customers have signed up for AB 250Mbit plan?

 

[Buzzard]

What ADSL speeds are you getting currently?

Between 2 & 3 Mbps. We are 4.2km from the exchange.

 

[Quickstatus]

Between 2 & 3 Mbps. We are 4.2km from the exchange.

Hopefully you will be much closer to the node.

 

[Buzzard]

Hopefully you will be much closer to the node.

There is a Telstra pit on my boundary and some markings on the road outside our house, made by NBN Co but I have no idea what they mean.

 

[mrs.dr.ron]

We are moving soon to a new house with FTTP. Currently I have narrowed it down to Aussie Broadband & Telecube- both seem to have good representation on Whirlpool & there is some good discussion on there

When we got the NBN we went with Aussie Broadband and we have had NO problems at all. They are very easy to deal with, and I get email notifications of scheduled NBN work/ planned outages.

 

[Quickstatus]

There is a Telstra pit on my boundary and some markings on the road outside our house, made by NBN Co but I have no idea what they mean.

How far are you to the nearest Telstra grey cylindrical pillar because your node will connect to the pillar before going to you

In any case it seems strange to go from FTTC to FTTN

........

When we got the NBN we went with Aussie Broadband and we have had NO problems at all. They are very easy to deal with, and I get email notifications of scheduled NBN work/ planned outages.

They appear to have a good reputation. And of course the best reccomemdations are WOM

 

[Himeno]

My area recently (in the last week or 2) got NBN turned on.
The node is about 130 meters away from the house.
What sort of speeds should I expect if we switch over from ADSL?

 

[Quickstatus]

My area recently (in the last week or 2) got NBN turned on.
The node is about 130 meters away from the house.
What sort of speeds should I expect if we switch over from ADSL?

Depends on where exactly the node AND pillar you are actually connected to is.
It may not be the closest node but more likely the closest pillar.
Dont forget it is Node to Pillar to premises.
Node to pillar and then to premises is all copper. So measure node to pillar to premises not node to premises. If <400m in total you should get close to the top speed tier or at least more than 50Mbps

And the closest node/pillar to you may not be your node/pillar.
Some people discovered despite a Node/Pillar sitting in front of their house, the Node/pillar they are connected to is actually some distance away. That would be the worst outcome - a daily reminder of losing the Node Lotto.

You may be able to find your premises on NBN MTM Alpha
Put in your address and see on the zoomed in map your premises and how long the pillar and node is. The colour dot reflects the speed - see the colour dot table
The website has not been updated for a while though but existing data is fairly accurate.

You should now also be able to contact a prospective RSP and they should be able to tell you what sync speeds you should get - i.e. they will not sell you a speed higher than what you can achieve.

How is the copper condition at your place?.More than one phone socket?. Correction of copper issues at the premises have led to improvements (sometimes substantial) in speed.


The politician spin of a node on every street corner is obviously wrong. There can only be one node per telstra pillar.

Here is a telstra pillar:

 

[Himeno]

You may be able to find your premises on NBN MTM Alpha
Put in your address and see on the zoomed in map your premises and how long the pillar and node is. The colour dot reflects the speed - see the colour dot table
The website has not been updated for a while though but existing data is fairly accurate.

That site has no info for my area.

How is the copper condition at your place?.More than one phone socket?.

2 phone sockets. Lineline in one, modem/router in the other.

This is what's at the end of the street.

Don't know of any other pillars in the area, just pits. The exchange is ~750m away.
That pillar is new. It used to be much smaller. It was installed/replaced when NBN Co came through in early Feb.

 

[Quickstatus]

When you go NBN you should get rid of one phone socket . Best to only have one socket. Minimise any wire branches and throw away the ADSL filter.

Looks like a new pillar design

Interesting there is a big pit in front of the pillar - would not be surprised if fibre was pulled through that pit - its one of those where the workmen climb into. Usually the NBN Node will be situated close to the Pillar.


Whats that grey rectangular spot behind the Pillar?

You said node to house is 130m but Whats the distance from Node to pillar to house? they generally follow the footpaths and roads therefore all corners should be right angles - can cross under roads

I use the Google Maps "measure distance function"
Right click on your house - select "Measure distance"
drag the little black circle to the correct spot
then left click on another spot and so on and include Pillar and Node location
To delete just look for window box at the bottom of map and delete the window
Here is an example

 

[Himeno]

When you go NBN you should get rid of one phone socket . Best to only have one socket. Minimise any wire branches and throw away the ADSL filter.

Looks like a new pillar design

Interesting there is a big pit in front of the pillar - would not be surprised if fibre was pulled through that pit - its one of those where the workmen climb into. Usually the NBN Node will be situated close to the Pillar.


Whats that grey rectangular spot behind the Pillar?

You said node to house is 130m but Whats the distance from Node to pillar to house?

I use the Google Maps "measure distance function"

I thought that was the node. If it isn't, I'm not sure where the node is, unless it is in a pit or at the exchange. There are a number of pits around the pillar, with Telstra, TPG and Optus branding on them.

Other then marked comms pits, the only other nearby infrastructure points I could find near by are marked as water or electricity related (underground power around here).

 

[Quickstatus]

Nodes are not located in pits or exchanges.

Are you sure you got FTTN?

This is an NBN node:

 

[Himeno]

Didn't see any of those near by this afternoon.
If this map is right, it looks like NBN Co is screwing the area.
Scullin FSA - Pillars and Nodes - Google My Maps
:/

NBN website lists address as "Service available | nbn™ Fibre to the node (FTTN)" (but shows suburb as "Build commenced" and not "Service available")