NBN Discussion

[Quickstatus]

That makes sense . Hopefully you will have a nice green node popping up near the pillar.as suggested in your link in which case you have won Node Lotto!!

 

[Himeno]

That makes sense . Hopefully you will have a nice green node popping up near the pillar.as suggested in your link

makes sense? That they claim the service is available, yet are still building the network?

Guess I'll have to see if NBN replies to my question.
If that map from Whirlpool is right, and they aren't adding any more nodes in the area, then it might not even be worth it to change to NBN since the amount of copper (house-pillar-node if I'm understanding right) would be the same either way.

 

[Quickstatus]

makes sense? That they claim the service is available, yet are still building the network?

Guess I'll have to see if NBN replies to my question.
If that map from Whirlpool is right, and they aren't adding any more nodes in the area, then it might not even be worth it to change to NBN since the amount of copper (house-pillar-node if I'm understanding right) would be the same either way.

Haha!! Welcome to NBN!!
You should have much faster because unlike currently when it is Exchange to Pillar to House (all copper), it will now be Fibre from Exchange to Node them copper to Pillar and House. In any case you have 18 months when available before you are forced to change.

What speed are you getting now?

 

[Himeno]

forced to change? Are they going to pull up the copper between the exchanges and pillars?

According to the whirlpool map, there are 7 pillars in this suburb. 3, all in the north of the suburb, have nearby nodes, the 4 in the south (and the 4 closest to me) don't have nodes. The nearest (current) node is about the same distance away to the north as the exchange is to the east.

Internode replied to my tweet to NBN (tagged Internode as well), stating they won't say where nodes are and suggested that NBN roll out might be delayed and there may be more nodes coming.

 

[Quickstatus]

Yes 18 months after NBN availability all the copper in the area goes to NBN control and ADSL will be switched off along with landline. The only way to get landline calls then is via NBN VoIP through the NBN modem via the same copper though you can keep phone number. This means that in a blackout 000 will not work unless you have optional NBN backup battery

During the 18month period both ADSL and VDSL (= the NBN FTTN - which is essentially a higher frequency version of ADSL) are available in a “co-existence period” in adjacent copper and the FTTN operates at lower power in order to minimise interference with ADSL in adjacent copper. After the coexistence period the NBN FTTN can be turned up to full power

The only areas where this does not happen are areas services by Fixed Wireless and Satellite

You should get NBN speedabove 50/10 if your node and pillar is as close as you suggest and certainly if it’s within 400m

But will you need 50/10?. The vast majority of NBN customers are on 25/5 and 12/1 in which case you could be 1km away from pillar and node

NBN tends to say service available as soon as one node is live so people can start their connections. The rest will connect as the nodes in the area progressively become available.

Welcome to NBN!!!

 

[Buzzard]

The closest Telstra pillar to our house is more than 1km away. May not be so good for the NBN?

 

[Quickstatus]

Pillar 1km away means node is further away (even if closer as the crow flies) and total copper length is at least 1km.

Other forums have suggested speeds can still OK. Maybe around 25 if the copper is good. If you get 25/5 and above NBN will say they have achieved their mission and no more complaining about it will be entertained.

Can you find you premises in NBN MTM Alpha . Have to zoom in and locate your premises
Are you sure you are getting FTTN?

 

[Buzzard]

I'll have to try on a PC, no good trying to zoom in on my phone.

 

[Himeno]

Got a letter from Telstra yesterday address to "The Householder" with "changes to network in your area" on the envelope.
Thought they might be talking about the copper network and NBN related changes, but nope.
Opened it to see they were trying to sell NBN plans.

(How did the government/NBN Co convince Telstra to give up the copper network anyway?)

 

[DC3]

.... (How did the government/NBN Co convince Telstra to give up the copper network anyway?)

BIG $$$$$$, is my guess.

Edit: Since found this (old ) article (but may be just the tip of the iceberg): NBN Co buys 1800 kilometres of copper to make Malcolm Turnbull's fibre-to-the-node network work

 

[Quickstatus]

NBN paid $11 billion for Telstra’s copper and HFC then paid another billion or so to Telstra to fix it!.

When someone comes with a pot of money wanting to buy your ageing assets which had little prospect of turning a profit especially as NBN was to be the new technology who would say no!

 

[PLANT]

Christ Christ Christ..... New NBN Date...... By the time it arrives to me.....5G will be taking over or there will actually be flying cars!!!!!

 

[TheRealTMA]

Christ Christ Christ..... New NBN Date...... By the time it arrives to me.....5G will be taking over or there will actually be flying cars!!!!!

No, not really. Fibre will [sorry, can, could] always beat wireless.

And what’s religion got to do with it? Ah, I see! Flying cars, carpets and who knows?

 

[Quickstatus]

A lot of hype with 5G. The telcos are talking up 5G hoping NBN will reduce its CVC/AVC pricing and maybe even asking price when it’s privatised after 2020

@PLANT when are you supposed to get getting yours and what technology are you getting

 

[PLANT]

HFC late 2019.... Ment to be connected by April this year!

 

[Quickstatus]

HFC late 2019.... Ment to be connected by April this year!

The assumption then is that you have telstra/foxtel HFC in your area.
Do you already have a HFC lead in cable to your premises and did you get a letter saying HFC testing in your area in a 6 month window?

201x can be slipped to 2020 and maybe even beyond especially when you see the disclaimer:
"Some premises may require more work before they are ready to connect"

 

[coriander]

I'm confused.
At work we were supposed to be connected via HFC early this year. Then an NBN person rocked up in February and said (not in so many words) that the HFC was stuffed and we would be getting FTTC by June 2018.
Now I see on the NBN website that we're back to HFC and a 2019 connection.

Planned availability: Upgrading the network.
Network upgrades to improve your customer experience will add an average of 6-9 months to your HFC connection.
We are currently finalising our new rollout schedule. New information will be available over the coming weeks.
Planned technology: nbn™ Hybrid Fibre Coaxial (HFC).

So we continue on dial-up speeds (0.5Mbps) for another 12 months or so.

 

[Quickstatus]

@coriander
What cable is in your street?. Telstra/Foxtel and/or Optus?

 

[coriander]

@coriander
What cable is in your street?. Telstra/Foxtel and/or Optus?

Telstra/Foxtel on the other side of road.

 

[Quickstatus]

After the HFC suspension of activation debacle the NBN decided to go one of 2 ways.

One was to go FTTC for the entire Optus HFC cable network because it was oversubscribed and many parts was end of life. (Too many customers not enough bandwidth in cable )

The other was to remediate sections of the Telstra HFC. Some sections of Telstra cable was thought to be as bad as Optus so was also supposed to go to FTTC. Maybe they thought your area is better than thought and remediation would fix it,

The remediation of the Telstra HFC involves fixing the taps where the consumers leadin plugs (taps) into the network at the telegraph pole. The other involved entering the house to fix damaged HFC sockets