NBN Discussion

[ozjuice]

Faster download is generally all you need to enhance your experience. No movie's buffering, Lag free online gaming, faster movie / music downloads. A good ping and fast download is all i need. Bottlenecks will not occur if download speeds are maintained, they go hand in hand. I can't wait to get something faster than 4-5Mb....it's painful especially when you have kids.

 

[Jeffrey O'Neill]

I know where you can get a 25/25 guaranteed speed. 1TB per month. $1800 per month.

100/100 speed and 5TB per month is $3500 per month

any takers? guaranteed speed, no sharing no party line.

Vocus offers 500Mbs unlimited days on its fibre network at $499 a month.

TPG have 400Mbs plans for about $399 a month.

Catch is your business needs to be in a building that has there fibre installed

 

[Jeffrey O'Neill]

Faster download is generally all you need to enhance your experience. No movie's buffering, Lag free online gaming, faster movie / music downloads. A good ping and fast download is all i need. Bottlenecks will not occur if download speeds are maintained, they go hand in hand. I can't wait to get something faster than 4-5Mb....it's painful especially when you have kids.

I'll be so happy to get a faster connection so that my share household is no longer constrained by a 10Mbs adsl link. Increased bandwidth is just as much about letting more to be done at the same time as to doing one thing faster. If anything I think being able to note at the same time is what will drive productivity growth.

 

[Quickstatus]

i got 2-3 down and 0.5 up. And can get netflix, spotify etc etc. So dont know what I will need 25/5 for. Hopefully some richer content websites will come around to clog up the bandwidth

 

[ozjuice]

i got 2-3 down and 0.5 up. And can get netflix, spotify etc etc. So dont know what I will need 25/5 for. Hopefully some richer content websites will come around to clog up the bandwidth

Try watching youtube in HD while windows is updating and your kids are downloading music or watching netflix. Believe me you'll want 25/5. Then if you're a gamer life is hell!

 

[Jeffrey O'Neill]

i got 2-3 down and 0.5 up. And can get netflix, spotify etc etc. So dont know what I will need 25/5 for. Hopefully some richer content websites will come around to clog up the bandwidth

Can you run 2 netflix streams at the same time, or netflix and web pages loading at a decent speed?

I notice web pages loading a lot slower when my housemate is watching netflix, and I have a a decently powerful router so that it's not a bottleneck.

I still remember my dad's reaction on going from 1.5Mbs to 12Mbs NBN with him saying it just loads instantly, or something to that effect. my parents use of the internet has likely gone up a factor of 10 over the years of having NBN

 

[Quickstatus]

I have 4 users for netflix. we have 1 tv. so no issues there. But 3 kids watching stuff on laptops, and I can still netflix with the 3rd kid on spotify
I can understand 1.5 to 12. But to 25 and to 100? Dont see the benefit there. I suppose Later on down the track there might be netflix 4K etc etc.

So much for building technologically savvy community. The vast community will just be consumers.

 

[drsmithy]

i got 2-3 down and 0.5 up. And can get netflix, spotify etc etc. So dont know what I will need 25/5 for. Hopefully some richer content websites will come around to clog up the bandwidth

I'm sure we can find someone sitting on a 256k ADSL line who would say the same thing about you needlessly fast 3Mb.

 

[Quickstatus]

Possibly but all Im saying is that increasing speeds to 25, 50, 100 does not necessarily increase download speed. The bottlenecks will still exist.

 

[samh004]

Checking out the NBN Co website today I noticed it now lists the technology they plan to use in your area. For my area, this is HFC (not to be confused with anything else), but I'm confused at to why they would choose this path as all the houses in my area (we live in a body corporate bordering on other bodies corporate) have satellite dishes on their roofs for Foxtel (or what was formerly Austar). As such, there wouldn't be an coaxial in the ground AFAIK, right?

Does anyone know if the plan would therefore be to lay HFC/cable or are they going to try give me a satellite service :shock:?

I'm based in a fairly densely populated suburb of the Gold Coast, not regional Australia

 

[Quickstatus]

Have a look in your street. Does it have a thick grey cable strung below the electric wires?

Are you in an apartment building or a town house commnity?

 

[samh004]

Have a look in your street. Does it have a thick grey cable strung below the electric wires?

You'll have to wait till later today for me to answer that as I'm not near the street

Are you in an apartment building or a town house commnity?

They're townhouses, duplex to be precise.

Everything is below ground inside the complex, hence why I'd need to walk out the front gate to take a look at the telegraph poles.

 

[drsmithy]

Checking out the NBN Co website today I noticed it now lists the technology they plan to use in your area. For my area, this is HFC (not to be confused with anything else), but I'm confused at to why they would choose this path as all the houses in my area (we live in a body corporate bordering on other bodies corporate) have satellite dishes on their roofs for Foxtel (or what was formerly Austar). As such, there wouldn't be an coaxial in the ground AFAIK, right?

It's not unusual for apartments to have Foxtel via satellite even with Foxtel cable nearby (or outside).

Presumably at some point it was cheaper to put a satellite dish on the roof than pay Telstra to run a cable.

 

[Quickstatus]

The issue is the body corporate. you will need agreement of body corporate for the installation of NBN from HFC to your premises. While it may be FTTN ie last mile internet comes through your phone line, NBN still needs to install equipment at each premises.

http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco2/documents/nbn-frustrated-premises-protocol.PDF


suggest getting body corporate members on to it early to get written permission of all owners, so when NBN rolls by your street address you are ready to go.

 

[PLANT]

Well my NBN sweet spot is 1gbs! Yanks have it, Europe has it, I want it!

 

[samh004]

The issue is the body corporate. you will need agreement of body corporate for the installation of NBN from HFC to your premises. While it may be FTTN ie last mile internet comes through your phone line, NBN still needs to install equipment at each premises.

http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco2/documents/nbn-frustrated-premises-protocol.PDF


suggest getting body corporate members on to it early to get written permission of all owners, so when NBN rolls by your street address you are ready to go.

Thank you for this.

Luckily there is an AGM coming up soon so I can bring this up at the meeting... and realistically, who wouldn't want to agree to what could be a value boost to the complex/property?!

 

[Quickstatus]

it surprises some people sometimes as to how recalcitrant some owners are.

some can be sneaky and say no and wait for others to do their installation and pay for the bulk of the work, and then they come in as johnny come latelys and do their connect at the cheap price because others have paid for the "infrastructure".

was like this for the gas connection at my brother's place. everyone wanted town gas but two did not want it. So the other 9 thought well we are not waiting, so paid for AGL to install gas pipe in the street, which went past the house of the 2 recalcitrants who did not pay because they did not want it. A year later the two connected to an "existing" gas pipe. Too hard to take them to court

 

[Quickstatus]

Well my NBN sweet spot is 1Gbps! Yanks have it, Europe has it, I want it!

You may want it but you wont get it even if they say your speed is 1Gbps.
No server will be able to send and receive at 1gbps unless you are the only one interrogating the server and it has multi gbps connections to the internet backbone. Addtionally there are probably several servers between the server hosting the interrogated website and you.
Do you really think that Telstra or some other internet backhauler will have a dedicated 1gps link for you across the Southern Cross underwater fibre cable?


Say you have netflix account and want to watch netflix 4k (on 4 separate TV as you can get 4 subaccounts I think) you will only need 100mbps. what else are you going to need the other 0.9gbps for? You probably will need a "marketed" 1gbps connection and will prob in actual real world only get sustained 100mbps. who knows. Be prepared to pay lots. Not because the the fibre can carry much more but the internet backhauler will have to lease multi gbps links across the southern cross cable. Current capaciy across Southern cross cable is 7.4 Tbps. Thats 7400 Gbps. Theoretical capacity is 22Tbps (at the moment).

 

[PLANT]

Never say never.....you do know technology is evolving...ie. Apollo 13 less CPU than a smartphone!
Anyways if I'm going to be a 5million Youtuber...I need them upload speeds for my 8K presentations

 

[Quickstatus]

I suppose you will be a virtual reality 8K 3D youtuber. Then you can star in your own avatar movie

i hope you dont live in my street, I may not be able to download my AFF forums when you are in avatar mode.