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Just "ok"? :shock:
Last night I pulled this out of one of the wine cabinets where it's been slumbering for a while. 'Twas very good.
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Just "ok"? :shock:
Probably too technical - good, b.. good and f.. awesome should be adequate :mrgreen:.
two glasses JohnM - one for each hand or is there something we don't know
2007 Dry River (Martinborough NZ). This was divisive among the group. The nose showed apple wax (now that’s a descriptor I have never used before!) raisins, tomato leaf, white pepper and some meatiness. The palate appears to show over-ripe fruit, more meaty notes – like the after taste of a juicy steak, and prominent acid.
Whoa, not technical enough - back to the phrasebook . Where would it sit on my highly technical 3-step scale :mrgreen:.
Hehe. Did you ever watch Oz and James wine adventures? If so, you will understand when I say you should have blown the ponce whistle in my direction
It was a good wine. Very different to any of the other wines on the night. In short, I enjoyed it and would happily drink more. Worth the money? Probably. My suggestion, crack on the oldest one of yours and see what you think though. Everyone likes different things in wine
Here's one from left field:
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For those unfamiliar with S America, Concha Y Toro is a Chilean company that is the third largest wine company in the world.
For those unfamiliar with carmenere, it is regarded as Chile's 'own' red wine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carm%C3%A9n%C3%A8re.)
Anyone who has travelled on LAN, in J at least, would know that there is always one carmenere on the list of usually three reds.
Casillero del Diablo (Cave of the Devil) is a mass-produced commercial label of good quality (think Jacob's Creek, Penfolds Koonunga Hill) for several varieties of which the carmenere and sauvignon blanc (and probably cabernet sauvignon) are readily available in Australia at quite reasonable prices ($20 range).
The winery HQ, outside Santiago, is worth (an albeit touristy) visit. Plenty of day trips are available from Santiago.
I don't have daver6's touch for simple tasting notes hyperbole () but carmenere is a rich red in the way of cabernet sauvignon or merlot but, to me, is more juicy - yet still with good acid. I think it goes particularly nicely with lamb chops on the BBQ or something like a meaty pizza. On the JohnM Highly Technical Wine Evaluation Scale[SUP]TM[/SUP], I rate it b.. good - particularly when price is put into the multivariate equation. It got an enthusiastic thumbs-up from PartnerJohnM who had never tried carmenere before.
On LAN, I often have it with the cheese. The higher-level examples they list in J are usually a lot more grippy than the Casillero.
The sauvignon blanc I think is also worth a try. It has neither the overt tropical fruit/gooseberry/cat pee flavours that put me, at least, off many except the best NZ sauvys, nor does it have the steeliness of the best Adelaide Hills examples (think Shaw & Smith). Rather, there's a sort of musty in-between flavour that I think offers an good counterpoint to the Aus & NZ styles.
Give 'em a crack - I don't think you'll be too disappointed, especially if, like me, you like to try something a bit different. I got mine at Vintage Cellars.
Here's one from left field:
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For those unfamiliar with S America, Concha Y Toro is a Chilean company that is the third largest wine company in the world.
For those unfamiliar with carmenere, it is regarded as Chile's 'own' red wine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carm%C3%A9n%C3%A8re.)
Anyone who has travelled on LAN, in J at least, would know that there is always one carmenere on the list of usually three reds.
Casillero del Diablo (Cave of the Devil) is a mass-produced commercial label of good quality (think Jacob's Creek, Penfolds Koonunga Hill) for several varieties of which the carmenere and sauvignon blanc (and probably cabernet sauvignon) are readily available in Australia at quite reasonable prices ($20 range).
The winery HQ, outside Santiago, is worth (an albeit touristy) visit. Plenty of day trips are available from Santiago.
I don't have daver6's touch for simple tasting notes hyperbole () but carmenere is a rich red in the way of cabernet sauvignon or merlot but, to me, is more juicy - yet still with good acid. I think it goes particularly nicely with lamb chops on the BBQ or something like a meaty pizza. On the JohnM Highly Technical Wine Evaluation Scale[SUP]TM[/SUP], I rate it b.. good - particularly when price is put into the multivariate equation. It got an enthusiastic thumbs-up from PartnerJohnM who had never tried carmenere before.
On LAN, I often have it with the cheese. The higher-level examples they list in J are usually a lot more grippy than the Casillero.
The sauvignon blanc I think is also worth a try. It has neither the overt tropical fruit/gooseberry/cat pee flavours that put me, at least, off many except the best NZ sauvys, nor does it have the steeliness of the best Adelaide Hills examples (think Shaw & Smith). Rather, there's a sort of musty in-between flavour that I think offers an good counterpoint to the Aus & NZ styles.
Give 'em a crack - I don't think you'll be too disappointed, especially if, like me, you like to try something a bit different. I got mine at Vintage Cellars.
Here's one from left field:
View attachment 37818
For those unfamiliar with S America, Concha Y Toro is a Chilean company that is the third largest wine company in the world.
For those unfamiliar with carmenere, it is regarded as Chile's 'own' red wine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carm%C3%A9n%C3%A8re.)
Anyone who has travelled on LAN, in J at least, would know that there is always one carmenere on the list of usually three reds.
Casillero del Diablo (Cave of the Devil) is a mass-produced commercial label of good quality (think Jacob's Creek, Penfolds Koonunga Hill) for several varieties of which the carmenere and sauvignon blanc (and probably cabernet sauvignon) are readily available in Australia at quite reasonable prices ($20 range).
The winery HQ, outside Santiago, is worth (an albeit touristy) visit. Plenty of day trips are available from Santiago.
I don't have daver6's touch for simple tasting notes hyperbole () but carmenere is a rich red in the way of cabernet sauvignon or merlot but, to me, is more juicy - yet still with good acid. I think it goes particularly nicely with lamb chops on the BBQ or something like a meaty pizza. On the JohnM Highly Technical Wine Evaluation Scale[SUP]TM[/SUP], I rate it b.. good - particularly when price is put into the multivariate equation. It got an enthusiastic thumbs-up from PartnerJohnM who had never tried carmenere before.
Give 'em a crack - I don't think you'll be too disappointed, especially if, like me, you like to try something a bit different. I got mine at Vintage Cellars.
OMG, retirement is nice when your kids who work away hit town! .