I built a dummy itinerary online but Moscow was not available so I used Helsinki just to get the overall itinerary right. I then called Qantas and the operator said there would be no charge because the system didn't allow Moscow and I had to call. My understanding is that there isn't (shouldn't) be a charge if the airline (such as JAL) or city (Moscow) can't be booked online. The operator I spoke to certainly inferred that.
...I asked Christine whether it was possible to book an itinerary which included a Stop in a City as well as two Transfers in the same City. She said yes without any hesitation or any hedging. I pushed a bit more and said that I'd heard that a Stop in a City would cancel out one of the Transfers, but she said that was not the case, and that you can hit the same City three times in the same Itinerary (but only one of those can be a Stop).
On that basis I'm going to press ahead with trying to build my Itinerary using the 'Triple Hit' method once the booking windows open up sufficiently. I'll report back with results.
No. If you don't show up for your first sector the rest of the journey will get auto cancelled. You can only throw out the very last segmentFor those keeping score at home...
Being too impatient to wait for the booking windows to open, I instead created a dummy Itinerary with three objectives:
1. 'Triple Hit' a City;
2. Use Dragon Air on a Sector (I believed it to be possible, but just wanted to check...);
3. Commence the Itinerary outside of Australia (I believed it to be possible, but just wanted to check...).
I was able to build the Itinerary including all three elements, all the way to the 'Check Itinerary' screen. As I didn't go through to the screen in the process where I would actually BOOK the Itinerary, I can't really claim complete proof; but I think that I now have sufficient justification to believe that all three can be done successfully.
As a side note, the reason we want to start outside Australia is that we want to have a mid-Itinerary stop in hometown Melbourne. So, as can be seen in Flight #1 in the screen shot, I dummied it up to begin in Auckland. By coincidence, the AUK-HKG flight I was seeking for this purpose happens to transit through MEL. That prompted Mrs.TOOJ to pose a question along these lines: So, does that mean we could book the AUK-MEL-HKG flight and then 'miss' the AUK-MEL leg and 'rejoin' for the MEL-HKG leg?'
Interesting thought - could it work?
I have yet another problem with Qantas and this time it's this oneworld award.
The itinerary so far is:
PER-xDOH-ZAG
ZAG-LHR
LHR-IST
IST-xDOH-JFK
JFK-xHKG-PER
So four stops so far (ZAG, LHR, IST and JFK). I want to add in JFK-xMIA-SJU. There is award space but only in economy. Fine. Suck it up. There's no award space to come back, at anytime that would connect with the existing flight to HKG, so, again, suck it up and pay for a seat SJU-JFK.
Qantas tells me, for a reason I can't understand (and, so far, no agent can point me to the rule) that if I did JFK would count as a stop on the second entry, SJU-JFK, thereby putting me at six stops instead of the maximum five.
Is this correct?
No. If you don't show up for your first sector the rest of the journey will get auto cancelled. You can only throw out the very last segment
Bummer. I thought we might have stumbled onto a cunning plan.
We'll just have to by a one-way cheapy to get out of OZ to get started.
Thanks for the advice.
I have yet another problem with Qantas and this time it's this oneworld award.
The itinerary so far is:
PER-xDOH-ZAG
ZAG-LHR
LHR-IST
IST-xDOH-JFK
JFK-xHKG-PER
So four stops so far (ZAG, LHR, IST and JFK). I want to add in JFK-xMIA-SJU. There is award space but only in economy. Fine. Suck it up. There's no award space to come back, at anytime that would connect with the existing flight to HKG, so, again, suck it up and pay for a seat SJU-JFK.
Qantas tells me, for a reason I can't understand (and, so far, no agent can point me to the rule) that if I did JFK would count as a stop on the second entry, SJU-JFK, thereby putting me at six stops instead of the maximum five.
Is this correct?
On face value there shouldn't be a problem with you transiting through JFK on the return from SJU but your problem might be that because you intend to buy the SJU - JFK ticket separately, from your award ticket point of view, you have no arrival time in JFK for the QF system to reference in regard to your departure time to HKG. Therefore maybe it can't recognise that you are within the less than 24 hr transit time requirement. If you could get a Y ticket back to JFK via MIA (for both legs preferably - but either would do) your problem might be solved because then there would be a reference time on your award booking for your arrival in NY to have it designated only a transit.
Are you stopping over in JFK coming from DOH? If yes then you will have a second stopover in JFK as part of the SJU-JFK open jaw.
If you are only transiting JFK coming from DOH, then it looks like a valid itinerary. Five stops and no duplicate stopovers.
I've looked through this thread and have a few questions about things I'm finding confusing. I have around 150,000 Qantas FF points and have been trying to book a Multi-City Award itinerary using 140,000 points - which I believe is the only way I can do this online? So I get the drop-down city selector and have ticked the box "Show Qantas and Partner Classic Award Cities". A small squiggly icon appears next to a few cities after I do this and I'm assuming that I can only select those cities? The available cities are ridiculous - there's no New York, Dallas or LA or anything resembling a capital city in South America. London City is the only airport in England (only Gatwick is listed there is no Heathrow - and no squiggly icon for Gatwick).
I'm sure I must be missing something. Can anyone advise me please? I'm sure it's probably in this thread somewhere but I have spent several hours going through it over the last few days - apologies if I've missed this information and am asking something already answered elsewhere.
It's my understanding that a stopover is considered a transit as far as 14.5.4 is concerned - so you can have one stopover plus one transit or two transits but not a stopover plus 2 transits.
I have had 1 stopover and 2 transits in LHR on a Oneworld award. I actually wanted 3 transits but had to make one of them a stopover.Definitely can't argue with you TOOJ and I have seen dissenting opinions on AFF regarding the stop-over/transit point but have never read a post on here from anyone who claimed that they had had a stop-over plus 2 transits in the same city. I did ask a QF call centre operator about this in Jan or Feb this year when putting together an early itinerary and the answer I got was that you could only have one transit if you also had a stop-over. I didn't pursue it because it wasn't relevant to the itinerary I settled on. I have received incorrect info from the call centre in the past though, so I can't categorically state that it's "definite".
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