Oz Federal Election 2013 - Discussion and Comments

[amaroo]

Story doing rounds is Julia will be gone before June 30th. If that is the case I pick June 26th as her departures lounge date.

Yes, heard the same story.....my money is before 28th June. All revolves around Super.......allegedly.

 

[Pukka]

Yes, heard the same story.....my money is before 28th June. All revolves around Super.......allegedly.

What her super entitlements?

 

[amaroo]

What her super entitlements?

Thats the story......who knows? The only thing I can find that might make sense - is the proposed super changes that Biily Shorthorn has committed to bring into force by 30 June 2013......relating to Pollies & other linked professions.

It's either BS or correct! Don't know.

One thing I am confident on - is that Gillard won't be leading the ALP into the election.

 

[Pukka]

Thats the story......who knows? The only thing I can find that might make sense - is the proposed super changes that Biily Shorthorn has committed to bring into force by 30 June 2013......relating to Pollies & other linked professions.

It's either BS or correct! Don't know.

One thing I am confident on - is that Gillard won't be leading the ALP into the election.

Well that's a shame because it can only be a positive for ALP but I still think they have no chance even if Kev steps up. If he does expect Wayne Swan & co to star in the Lib election ads lol They really trashed him

 

[joeymelb]

Story doing rounds is Julia will be gone before June 30th. If that is the case I pick June 26th as her departures lounge date.

Quote from Jullia Gillard during "Women for Gillard" event: ''It's a decision about whether, once again, we will banish women's voices from our political life.''

So, my question is, will she be banished by men in blue tie or red tie? Or the men wearing a tie with Fifty Shade of Grey"? Personally, my money is strong Labor women who are familiar with Bunnings' rope section.

 

[drron]

Well it will be by the blue ties as all the Labor men are wearing them.Also at the Northern tablelands by election here the ALP signs were all blue,the booth workers were in blue even the busload of Young Labor members from Sydney.

 

[Moody]

It worked. Cheers.

Very enlightening ... but just what I expected of you. Hard to hide your bias, isn't it?

 

[Moody]

How is this relevant?

Because I knew you would reply as you did and it shows your bias.

This is rich coming from you, drron! Now which one of us has ever been a card-carrying member of a political party? That would be you! Which one of us campaigned for election as a member of a political party? Yep - that's you again!! Which one of us believes Mal Brough lied through his teeth regarding his involvement with the Ashby affair, and is being investigated by the police due to his abuse of legal process? Oh - that one is just me apparently.

But don't worry - your favourite liar has stacked the branch to get pre-selection and enjoys nearly 50% support in the electorate whilst Slipper is in single digits. Pity the smell will never go away but that rarely bothers professional politicians, does it?

 

[drron]

I like this bit by Anne Summers-

Only saying it now! Anne Summers, The Age, yesterday:
(TONY) Abbott is, of course, trying to reassure us all he is not the man he once was on abortion ... he now likes to use a 20-year-old quote from Bill Clinton that abortion should be "safe, legal and rare".

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Julia Gillard,Hansard 2006-

Many members, including the minister for health (Tony Abbott), have adopted the Bill Clinton terminology that they would like to see a circumstance where abortion was safe, legal and rare. I agree with those comments. We would all like to see a circumstance where abortion was safe, legal and rare.

And I must apologise to John Mcternan,Julia has used the misogyny line before again from Hansard 2006 to Joe Hockey-

YELL as much as you like, mate, because you are not worrying me ... the ugly face of the Howard government is on display - the misogynist and the fat man.

In 2009 the ABC reported her description of Mr.Pyne-
Gillard labels Pyne 'mincing poodle' - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Funny in the article she is quoted as saying she wanted to see Tony Abbott stage a comeback-proves you have to be careful what you wish for.

 

[drron]

Moody I have been a card carrying member of both the Liberal and ALP if you read my post.I have declared my positions so everyone knows where I am coming from.You have not.

As I said Mal Brough had already won preselection before the judgement.
In the electorate of Fisher it was well known that Peter Slipper for years had been stacking the branches.And as I said although I am an elector in Fisher I have not voted for Peter Slipper for 20 years.Do you just somehow get an inkling of what I as a committed Liberal at the time felt about Peter Slipper's reputation?
Your comments on the electorate of Fisher are made in ignorance.
Funny you didn't mention the ongoing police investigation into Julia Gillard.

 

[Sprucegoose]

What her super entitlements?

shes an Australian politician, so world class......

 

[Sprucegoose]

Story doing rounds is Julia will be gone before June 30th. If that is the case I pick June 26th as her departures lounge date.

i hope she stays. It would be terrible if she ducked the electorates response now

 

[cove]

Yes I hope she stays so she sees what we really think.
It will take almost a decade to get Australia back to where our biggest problem is funding the public service retirement system.
I am not convinced that Tasmania has woken up to the Greens but I think the recession they are experiencing may get them thinking about options.

 

[drron]

Yes I hope she stays so she sees what we really think.
It will take almost a decade to get Australia back to where our biggest problem is funding the public service retirement system.
I am not convinced that Tasmania has woken up to the Greens but I think the recession they are experiencing may get them thinking about options.

This poll reported in the Hobart Mercury suggests they have.17.6% swing against the ALP and 6.3% against the greens.Tasmanians want to be blue.
ALP faces federal wipeout Tasmania News - The Mercury - The Voice of Tasmania

 

[Moody]

Moody I have been a card carrying member of both the Liberal and ALP if you read my post.I have declared my positions so everyone knows where I am coming from.You have not.

I am not a member of any political party and have never worked for a political party, and the closest I have come to being part of that rabble is working at a polling booth back in the '80s to earn a few bucks. I think a scrutineer stood beside me during one of the re-counts but I couldn't even tell you what party he was from and we didn't exchange names or phone numbers.

So we can put that particular smear and innuendo to bed now, can't we?

As I said Mal Brough had already won preselection before the judgement.

What a politicians answer that one is .... true to form of course. Mal Brough had been working on Peter Slipper to get him disendorsed since 2010, and possibly earlier than that. (You should know since you are an expert on the situation in Fisher). The Ashby affair was merely his piece de resistance

Funny you didn't mention the ongoing police investigation into Julia Gillard.

Fine - I'll look into it as we now seem done with lying scumbag politicians from Fisher. What is JG accused of in this instance?

 

[amaroo]

This poll reported in the Hobart Mercury suggests they have.17.6% swing against the ALP and 6.3% against the greens.Tasmanians want to be blue.
ALP faces federal wipeout Tasmania News - The Mercury - The Voice of Tasmania

What a wonderful read

Julia might not see the weekend out!

 

[Skyring]

I am not a member of any political party and have never worked for a political party, and the closest I have come to being part of that rabble is working at a polling booth back in the '80s to earn a few bucks. I think a scrutineer stood beside me during one of the re-counts but I couldn't even tell you what party he was from and we didn't exchange names or phone numbers.

If you go along to a football match this weekend, ask yourselves how many of the fans cheering themselves hoarse are or have been players of the club they are supporting.

Bias and prejudice don't depend on reason.

They cannot.

 

[drron]

I am not a member of any political party and have never worked for a political party, and the closest I have come to being part of that rabble is working at a polling booth back in the '80s to earn a few bucks. I think a scrutineer stood beside me during one of the re-counts but I couldn't even tell you what party he was from and we didn't exchange names or phone numbers.

So we can put that particular smear and innuendo to bed now, can't we?




What a politicians answer that one is .... true to form of course. Mal Brough had been working on Peter Slipper to get him disendorsed since 2010, and possibly earlier than that. (You should know since you are an expert on the situation in Fisher). The Ashby affair was merely his piece de resistance




Fine - I'll look into it as we now seem done with lying scumbag politicians from Fisher. What is JG accused of in this instance?

Shows you don't really read my posts.
You mean you worked for the electoral commission not a party polling booth worker.

Oh and by the way-people can and are biased even if they have never belonged to a political party.Your bias is well and truly evident.And what I said is not a smear.I stated my facts.if you don't want to explain your bias fair enough but stop complaining about mine.

And if you had read my posts Mal Brough would have won preselection in 2010 but was prevented from doing so by the amalgamation of the Liberal and National party.

And JG is being investigated re the Union slush fund.She has been accused by a former Union delegate of witnessing his signature when he was in Perth and she in Melbourne.However she has the right to be presumed innocent until found guilty just as Mal Brough has the same right.Though you obviously believe that an accusation against any right wing politician is automatically proven even if dismissed in court.A clear case of bias.

 

[Moody]

Shows you don't really read my posts.
You mean you worked for the electoral commission not a party polling booth worker.

Oh and by the way-people can and are biased even if they have never belonged to a political party.Your bias is well and truly evident.And what I said is not a smear.I stated my facts.if you don't want to explain your bias fair enough but stop complaining about mine..

I read your posts and those of your pals ..... you know - the ones about "reading from the labour playbook" and the latest one where you claim that "I have been open about my affiliations but you haven't Moody" as if that vindicates your lack of bias and confirms mine. What utter drivel! I am happy to defend myself against claims of bias based on fact, but not innuendo and shock jock diatribe.

But I thought it was worth pointing out that I have never been a member of a political party, whereas you had. On the face of that fact who is likely to be the most biassed? Honest answer if you can ...

And if you had read my posts Mal Brough would have won preselection in 2010 but was prevented from doing so by the amalgamation of the Liberal and National party.

Hypothetical and irrelevant .... except if true it makes his campaign against Slipper seem even more pointless and tawdry than ever. What a star for your side, you must be so proud.

And JG is being investigated re the Union slush fund.She has been accused by a former Union delegate of witnessing his signature when he was in Perth and she in Melbourne.However she has the right to be presumed innocent until found guilty just as Mal Brough has the same right.Though you obviously believe that an accusation against any right wing politician is automatically proven even if dismissed in court.A clear case of bias.

OK - so Julia Gillard is accused of witnessing a signature whilst not actually present. Is that it? Get the tar and feathers out, Jed, we got ourselves another lynching!

And if Tony's only altercation with women had been that one sexual assault case then he would be entitled to both legal innocence and the benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately it hasn't been the only incident, has it?

 

[Pushka]

OK - so Julia Gillard is accused of witnessing a signature whilst not actually present. Is that it? Get the tar and feathers out, Jed, we got ourselves another lynching!

It's a tad more serious than that. She was acting in the capacity of a Lawyer. That action could get her disbarred and subject to criminal proceedings.