Predictions of when international flights may resume/bans lifted

[ayushamity]

Australians to 'FINALLY enjoy foreign holidays in 2021

Trade and Tourism Minister Simon Birmingham has flagged the potential to reopen the country's borders to the Asia Pacific region.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Lets begin a poll.... March 2021 ? April 2021 ? May 2021 ?

 

[oznflfan]

Australians to 'FINALLY enjoy foreign holidays in 2021

Trade and Tourism Minister Simon Birmingham has flagged the potential to reopen the country's borders to the Asia Pacific region.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Lets begin a poll.... March 2021 ? April 2021 ? May 2021 ?

Pretty sure this is re-hash of 4 week old news item.

1/7/2021 is my guess for quarantine free travel from Australia to at least one country in SE Asia (excluding NZ or Pacific Islands).

 

[jakeseven7]

Australians to 'FINALLY enjoy foreign holidays in 2021

Trade and Tourism Minister Simon Birmingham has flagged the potential to reopen the country's borders to the Asia Pacific region.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Lets begin a poll.... March 2021 ? April 2021 ? May 2021 ?

Nope, nope and nope to your dates

This article is just a treading water nothingness.

Australians clearly don’t want people coming here and ruining our basically/relatively Covid free oasis.

DFATs official waiting list for Australians to get back urgently has grown by another 2k to 34,000 so these people need to be prioritised.

 

[ayushamity]

Nope, nope and nope.

When do you say then ? 2022 ? 2023? 2024 ???

There has to be a timeline at which this ban becomes taking it way too far. To me, that timeframe is already here

I do have a fiance (as mentioned before) overseas haven't seen since Feb this year . Her mental health is starting to break down now (as is mine) and I am juts not sure how far it is before breaking point.


This comment is not directed to you but it really irks me when people want to live in a Covid free world in Australia and don't care about other partners being separated. That is downright seflish.

 

[jakeseven7]

When do you say then ? 2022 ? 2023? 2024 ???

There has to be a timeline at which this ban becomes taking it way too far. To me, that timeframe is already here

I do have a fiance (as mentioned before) overseas haven't seen since Feb this year . Her mental health is starting to break down now (as is mine) and I am juts not sure how far it is before breaking point.


This comment is not directed to you but it really irks me when people want to live in a Covid free world in Australia and don't care about other partners being separated. That is downright seflish.

I totally agree and very empathetic to your situation, in my family we have a similarish situation too, trying to work out how we get someone here from overseas too

I am however very realistic about the appetite for the government and population here to open borders and flights in any meaningful way and I just don’t see that in the near future. Just like NZ - they won’t even open to Australia properly...

So my guess on a date is meaningless... I suspect not until a widespread effective vaccine is available whenever that is would’ve be my best estimate...

 

[straitman]

I totally agree and very empathetic to your situation, in my family we have a similarish situation too, trying to work out how we get someone here from overseas too

I am however very realistic about the appetite for the government and population here to open borders and flights in any meaningful way and I just don’t see that in the near future. Just like NZ - they won’t even open to Australia properly...

So my guess on a date is meaningless... I suspect not until a widespread effective vaccine is available whenever that is would’ve be my best estimate...

Agreed entirely.
Getting Aussies home is a priority much as I really want to go to Fiji.
The current arrangement needs sorting though. Our daughter and family have been quoted $US100,000 to get 4 people (2A & 2C) back to Australia from Panama.

 

[Gremlin]

This comment is not directed to you but it really irks me when people want to live in a Covid free world in Australia and don't care about other partners being separated. That is downright seflish.

I'm sorry, but I find the implication of your comment highly, highly offensive.

My aunt died from COVID a couple of months ago. She died alone. Unable to see her husband and family and in immense pain. Not all of the family were allowed to attend her funeral. This was nothing short of a devastating experience for her and those left behind.

I, for one, absolutely want to see a COVID free world here in Australia. I wouldn't wish the experience my aunt and her family went through on my worst enemy.

And yet, I empathise with your situation and understand your frustration. I think it's entirely possible to hold those two positions at the same time. And I don't, for a single minute, think that constitutes selfishness in the slightest.

 

[jakeseven7]

Agreed entirely.
Getting Aussies home is a priority much as I really want to go to Fiji.
The current arrangement needs sorting though. Our daughter and family have been quoted $US100,000 to get 4 people (2A & 2C) back to Australia from Panama.

At least some more international capacity coming online to help clear the Australians stranded overseas with Qantas announced to be operating more international repatriation flights directly into HBA.

Tasmania to take hundreds of stranded Australians

Tasmania has committed to taking hundreds of stranded Australians wanting to return home by opening up Hobart hotels for quarantine spaces.

www.watoday.com.au

 

[dajop]

At least some more international capacity coming online to help clear the Australians stranded overseas with Qantas announced to be operating more international repatriation flights directly into HBA.

Tasmania to take hundreds of stranded Australians

Tasmania has committed to taking hundreds of stranded Australians wanting to return home by opening up Hobart hotels for quarantine spaces.

www.watoday.com.au

Whilst this is helpful, it's still relatively minor in the grand scheme of things, and seems to as much about the optics as anything.

The article you posted positions it as "The state .... has indicated it will increase the nation’s hotel quarantine capacity by 450. The additional capacity is on top of the 6315 weekly quarantine spaces currently agreed to by states and territories." The implication is 450 seats a week. But it is not. Other articles (see link below) suggest it is 450 arrivals over three months (a flash in the pan?) I've also seen a version, which I can't find that suggests it will be 450 between now and Christmas. But if it is over three months, that's effectively taking the average from 6315/week to 6350 ...

Also, why do they have to be QF flights direct to Tasmania? I mean surely the government could buy up 30 seats on five of the ten daily flights into Sydney one particular day, sell them to those wanting to repatriate (gets over the airline extortion piece) and then shuttle them down to Tasmania on a flight from the international terminal. But that wouldn't support the message in as compelling way.

New hope for stranded Aussies

Tasmania will become a new international entry point into Australia, both for citizens stranded overseas and for New Zealand tourists.

www.news.com.au

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Pretty sure this is re-hash of 4 week old news item.

1/7/2021 is my guess for quarantine free travel from Australia to at least one country in SE Asia (excluding NZ or Pacific Islands).

Do you mean departure or arrival, or perhaps lifting of the travel ban? I think I heard Singapore allow travellers from Australia quarantine free already after a test on arrival (rapid test??)

 

[ayushamity]

Do you mean departure or arrival, or perhaps lifting of the travel ban? I think I heard Singapore allow travellers from Australia quarantine free already after a test on arrival (rapid test??)

Oooh...good question considering I have been spending my Sunday last 2 hours researching on Singapore travel

You cant leave Australia at the moment but Singapore has opened quarantine free travel from 5 countries - Australia, Vietnam, China, NZ and Brunei

SO yes if you could leave Australia, you could travel to Singapore and just do a Covid test.

With regards to leaving Australia, You can get an exemption if you state leaving for more than 3 months. As far as I am aware and have trialed, you don't actually have to show proof of visa or return flight tickets to verify the 3 month travel - If you just state ETA as more than 3 months in advance, you can get automatic exemption usually in 12 hours or so.

My fiance is from Vietnam so if covid stays under control in our part of the world, we will meet in Singapore for about a month or so in Jan-Feb next year.

By then, hoping that Australia lets home based quarantine from low risk countries like Singapore and incoming caps have increased to avoid being bumped off flights

 

[RAM]

Agreed entirely.
Getting Aussies home is a priority much as I really want to go to Fiji.
The current arrangement needs sorting though. Our daughter and family have been quoted $US100,000 to get 4 people (2A & 2C) back to Australia from Panama.

Time to contact your local Federal & State MPs and ask what are they doing to help their electors get home? Perhaps also cultivate local media.

 

[Pom-DownUnder]

if this vaccine starts getting rolled out in Jan / Feb, travel needs to be open March / April and by travel i dont mean just a few countries here and there i mean an end to this absolutely psychotic approach of citizens being told they CANNOT leave their country.

if you want to test people fine, if you want positive people to stay quarantined and penalise them if they dont, fine.

 

[ayushamity]

if this vaccine starts getting rolled out in Jan / Feb, travel needs to be open March / April and by travel i dont mean just a few countries here and there i mean an end to this absolutely psychotic approach of citizens being told they CANNOT leave their country.

It will be travel only if vaccinated. 100%

 

[burmans]

So my guess on a date is meaningless... I suspect not until a widespread effective vaccine is available whenever that is would’ve be my best estimate...

Totally agree this will be outcome based rather than date based.

 

[oznflfan]

Nope, nope and nope to your dates

This article is just a treading water nothingness.

Australians clearly don’t want people coming here and ruining our basically/relatively Covid free oasis.

DFATs official waiting list for Australians to get back urgently has grown by another 2k to 34,000 so these people need to be prioritised.

Acknowledge thoughts, but the world would really have to cave in and be zombified if I can't travel freely after 1/1/2022, if:

*I am vaccinated prior to end of 2021 - assuming vaccine available.
*Several tests, before, at airport and on arrival both ways.
*Better treatments.
*If quarantine free travel for region I am going not appropriate, 7 days home quarantine, backed up by test pre-flight, test on arrival, and additional negative test on day 7.

I would be OK home quarantining for 7 days and testing, probably not 14 days, and 14 days in hotel quarantine DEFINATELY NOT.

 

[mrsterryn]

Just a tad sad as my most wanted place is California and I doubt USA will be fun for a while

 

[oznflfan]

Just a tad sad as my most wanted place is California and I doubt USA will be fun for a while

Maybe incoming US administration can change things. Maybe post 2021/2022 winter they'll have proven to be out of the pandemic that's currently rife there.

 

[DC3]

.... Maybe post 2021/2022 winter they'll have proven to be out of the pandemic that's currently rife there.

Well, the incoming USA administration sees getting on top of the pandemic as the No.1 priority.

 

[ayushamity]

So the next national cabinet meeting is this Friday. If I remember correctly, last time they were working on a traffic light system and home quarantine for low risk countries.

What's the bet that they actually have not done anything about it and are just 'discussing' again