Predictions of when international flights may resume/bans lifted

[lovetravellingoz]

Actually, I'm quite happy to take a vaccine, as long as its efficacy is proven and of a high order. I'd be wary of the Astra Zeneca vaccine, which our politicians appear to be foisting upon us, as its efficacy appears to be in question. It might be cheap and easy to produce/distribute, but is it any good? From what I've seen, the UQ vaccine (now deemed unsuitable) would have been better (who cares about false AIDS tests readings?).

Taking a vaccine with a low/uncertain efficacy is a bit like Russian roulette, and will be counterproductive in a country like Australia IMHO.

Well one advantage of Australia rolling out slower than elsewhere is that some of your questions may have better answers by the time you get to say yes, or no, to being vaccinated.

 

[DC3]

... I'd be wary of the Astra Zeneca vaccine ...

Maybe you can get on-board with the first 5 million, if eligible for that.

 

[Pushka]

It seems that production of 53M doses of the AstraZeneca is already underway in Australia, by CSL. The plan is for most of us to receive that one, during 2021, according to the report, below.

However, the first vax available will be 10M doses of Pfizer, probably beginning in February. So, 5M people.

Most people in Australia likely to get AstraZeneca COVID vaccine rather than Pfizer shot

While the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine will likely be the first to get approval in Australia, most of us will end up receiving the Oxford-AstraZeneca shot, Chief Medical Officer Paul Kelly says.

www.abc.net.au

I had read that last year and again today. Bring it on.

 

[DC3]

I had read that last year and again today. Bring it on.

Oops. . Meant to edit the other post. Was trying to add the chart:

 

[Pom-DownUnder]

Actually, I'm quite happy to take a vaccine, as long as its efficacy is proven and of a high order. I'd be wary of the Astra Zeneca vaccine, which our politicians appear to be foisting upon us, as its efficacy appears to be in question. It might be cheap and easy to produce/distribute, but is it any good? From what I've seen, the UQ vaccine (now deemed unsuitable) would have been better (who cares about false AIDS tests readings?).

Taking a vaccine with a low/uncertain efficacy is a bit like Russian roulette, and will be counterproductive in a country like Australia IMHO.

if you are being wary the oxford one is certainly the one to go for.

pzfiser / moderna are both entirely new types of vaccination utilising mRNA where the oxford is a much more tried and tested method of spike proteins.

but either way, shoot me up, let me fly.

 

[drron]

I will be happy to go with the Oxford vaccine.
Pfizer have always been the master of spin.

 

[tgh]

Based on the numbers you may be offered the Pfizer vaccine, Drron.

 

[I love to travel]

I will be happy to go with the Oxford vaccine.
Pfizer have always been the master of spin.

Will we be allowed to choose?

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

I will be happy to go with the Oxford vaccine.
Pfizer have always been the master of spin.

Will we be allowed to choose?

I assume Dr Ron is a frontline health worker and in one of the first 2 batch (and hence the first 5 million) - will he be allowed to choose?

 

[Pushka]

For full international travel safety I’d prefer Pfizer.

 

[drron]

It depends as I finish my current contract at the end of February.I won't be around for the second shot and I haven't got another contract yet so not sure If I will be in the first group or not.
I will have whatever vaccine I am offered but was just making the point I don't really trust Pfizer and what they say.

 

[jakeseven7]

Will we be allowed to choose?

Some of us may not if only one is available at the time and work requires it....

 

[drron]

One of the major reasons people are encouraged by the Pfizer spin is the belief if you do develope Covid after vaccination it will be mild.However the Phase 3 trial actually had an increased percentage of severe cases both in the vaccinated and placebo arms.

"There are nonetheless minor issues. The number of severe cases of Covid-19 (one in the vaccine group and nine in the placebo group) is too small to draw any conclusions about whether the rare cases that occur in vaccinated persons are actually more severe. For practical reasons, the investigators relied on trial participants to report symptoms and present for testing. Since reactogenicity was more common in vaccine recipients, it is possible that they were less inclined to believe that minor symptoms were due to Covid-19 and therefore less likely to refer themselves for testing. And some important data, such as the rate of asymptomatic disease (as measured by seroconversion to a viral nucleoprotein that is not a component of the vaccine), have not yet been reported."
SARS-CoV-2 Vaccination — An Ounce (Actually, Much Less) of Prevention | NEJM (hcn.com.au)

Now so far no serious cases since the mass rollout but that has been going for only just over a month.You really need at least 3 months and maybe longer to see what the incidence of severe cases is.
As I have said elsewhere I don't trust Pfizer spin.

 

[Must...Fly!]

I feel somewhat lucky at this stage to be toward the back of the queue for a vaccine. I'd line up for the Oxford-AZ vaccine right now if asked. Probably keep on walking if it was the others.

 

[Toula92122]

I'd prefer the Oxford A-Z as I also do not trust Pfizer one little bit.

With regards to the Qld vaccine causing false HIV positive tests, that might be an issue if one was seeking life insurance down the track. Probably not applicable to those of us older, but for many younger ones it could cause significant issues as insurance companies are not known to apply logic to a situation.

 

[DC3]

For those who are in the top branch(es) of the roll-out tree, we know that the Pfizer is expected to be rolled out first, with an expected 10M doses, so 5M people. Those who are eligible for that, but don’t want it, could just delay, and will get the Oxford. At least others can “take their place”, as such.

I’ll take the first that I’m offered. . I’m not waiting. Horses for courses.

 

[oznflfan]

For those who are in the top branch(es) of the roll-out tree, we know that the Pfizer is expected to be rolled out first, with an expected 10M doses, so 5M people. Those who are eligible for that, but don’t want it, could just delay, and will get the Oxford. At least others can “take their place”, as such.

I’ll take the first that I’m offered. . I’m not waiting. Horses for courses.

But if jabbed, can I go to anywhere in SE Asia before end of 2021. That's the big question. How many quarterly extensions past 17th March?

 

[DC3]

But if jabbed, can I go to anywhere in SE Asia before end of 2021. That's the big question. How many quarterly extensions past 17th March?

Maybe just get back on the end of the line and keep going around.

CSL is supposed to be producing (in Victoria) as much Oxford as is needed in any case. And it’s dirt cheap, even if we have to pay for it ourselves, later on. Where’s Scomo? Paging Scomo.

 

[drron]

I believe the Pfizer vaccine is being delivered at the rate of 1 million doses per month so at some stage well before the 5 million mark is passed there will be both vaccines available.

 

[oz_mark]

How many quarterly extensions past 17th March?

AT least one. Probably mid-year before we get a solid indication of what effect mass vaccinations are having.