Predictions of when international flights may resume/bans lifted

[Supersonic Swinger]

When does this all stop?

By the end of the year if this speculation from an investment website holds:

"Federal Government is in no rush to open the borders as it gives a fake perception that the job market is solid. The government also has in an ideological war with universities and lack of overseas students are way for them attacking back. The federal government needs to call the election in Sep/Oct cycle as that will allow them to open the borders and RBA will cut QE by Dec. Set the clock…we already have tax payer funded advertising in play by the government and they can only do that till they call the election. They have to open the borders by Dec or the job market will tighten up and we may actually get wages growth. No one wants that…definitely not corporates, governments or RBA!!!"

Winter is coming…Sep/Oct federal election to clear the way for opening the borders and budget austerity

Local market delivered a slight positive day while the size dynamics flipped from recent days. Large Caps were negative while Mid, Small and Micro Caps all had a solid day. Global investors were selling while local investors were buying the dip in growth/small stocks. Markets are looking at the...

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[clifford]

job market will tighten up and we may actually get wages growth. No one wants that…definitely not corporates, governments or RBA!!!"

Perhaps the average wage earner might want it. But who cares????

 

[oznflfan]

This article has a prediction that we'll be in a good position for a decision on whether to reopen in March next year!: When international border might reopen

Maybe I'm being unrealistic but I still have hopes of travelling overseas at the end of the 2021 calendar year to see family some of whom I haven't seen since before the pandemic and some of whom I've never met in person.

Sorry, nothing outside of NZ this year. Two things need to happen before any movement on international borders opening.

*Election needs to be held. Stated several times, the PM is mad if he doesn't pull an early election. The longer he waits the worse it is for him. Sportsbet have pretty much joint best odds of Oct 2021, April 2022 and May 2022 as election date.

*More vaccines in arms. This will look better by Christmas, and better again by March 2022.

In my opinion, best case for travel (if vaccinated), and hopefully no quarantine (though to start maybe home quarantine), would be middle of 2022. I'm booking Krakow return leaving Australia 1st July 2022. I'm giving the trip a 60% chance of happening.

 

[Supersonic Swinger]

Perhaps the average wage earner might want it. But who cares????

At the moment, trying to recruit anyone in a field which traditionally relied on expats to fill roles - engineering, technology, accounting, finance, marketing etc - is crazy. I know of consulting firms turning around offer letters the day after a first interview in the hope they lock in a candidate, and people 5 years out of uni are being offered crazy salaries because there aren't enough qualified candidates out there. For other companies like the one I'm at, we're either adjusting hiring budgets or reevaluating our plans for the rest of the year.

That can only go on for so long before it flows through into prices, inflation and interest rates - which will be bad for mortgages and house prices. Hence the speculation is that borders have to open later in the year to take that pressure off.

 

[roogirl]

At the moment, trying to recruit anyone in a field which traditionally relied on expats to fill roles - engineering, technology, accounting, finance, marketing etc - is crazy. I know of consulting firms turning around offer letters the day after a first interview in the hope they lock in a candidate, and people 5 years out of uni are being offered crazy salaries because there aren't enough qualified candidates out there. For other companies like the one I'm at, we're either adjusting hiring budgets or reevaluating our plans for the rest of the year.

That can only go on for so long before it flows through into prices, inflation and interest rates - which will be bad for mortgages and house prices. Hence the speculation is that borders have to open later in the year to take that pressure off.

What expat would come to australia in the current environment? You run the risk of getting cut off from the rest of the world at the drop of a hat. I imagine a lot of current expats will leave once the borders reopen too. I think this isolationist approach will have really long lasting impacts.

 

[jakeseven7]

What expat would come to australia in the current environment? You run the risk of getting cut off from the rest of the world at the drop of a hat. I imagine a lot of current expats will leave once the borders reopen too. I think this isolationist approach will have really long lasting impacts.

Doubt it. People have short memories. Unbelievably short I’ve found. We have 160 expats fighting for a senior role in Brissy right now...

 

[roogirl]

Doubt it. People have short memories. Unbelievably short I’ve found. We have 160 expats fighting for a senior role in Brissy right now...

Are they aussies? I cannot imagine being foreign and wanting to come and work in australia. Madness.

 

[clifford]

Are they aussies? I cannot imagine being foreign and wanting to come and work in australia. Madness.

You have to understand what the rest of the world looks like at the moment.

My relatives in the UK certainly do. Perhaps you don't?

 

[dajop]

What expat would come to australia in the current environment? You run the risk of getting cut off from the rest of the world at the drop of a hat. I imagine a lot of current expats will leave once the borders reopen too. I think this isolationist approach will have really long lasting impacts.

I tell you a lot of expats here might well prefer the expat life in Australia to one in Singapore. At least the prison is 3000km x 3000km and not 30km x 30km.

 

[roogirl]

You have to understand what the rest of the world looks like at the moment.

My relatives in the UK certainly do. Perhaps you don't?

I live in the U.K. I would much rather be here than in australia right now.

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I tell you a lot of expats here might well prefer the expat life in Australia to one in Singapore. At least the prison is 3000km x 3000km and not 30km x 30km.

Ha that’s true - I forget that most asian countries are pretty restrictive too.

 

[hb13]

You have to understand what the rest of the world looks like at the moment.

My relatives in the UK certainly do. Perhaps you don't?

Roogirl is in the UK if I'm not mistaken. I'm also in the UK. I know many Aussie expats here. Not a single one of us would want to go to Australia now.

The situation in the UK is worse regarding numbers of cases, but the vaccines have shown to drastically reduce hospitalisations & deaths. The UK/US/EU understand Covid-0 is IMPOSSIBLE; unless you want to destroy the economy permanently. Australia is going to be cut off the rest of world soon, and no one can come in or out - everyone I know personally would rather not be there.

 

[jakeseven7]

Are they aussies? I cannot imagine being foreign and wanting to come and work in australia. Madness.

Nope. Everyone who has applied seems desperate to wants to come and live in the island paradise / fortress!

 

[Seat0B]

James wasn't permitted to see his dying mother after flying home from overseas — now he's on a hunger strike

A West Australian man whose mother died while he was in hotel quarantine in Melbourne is on a hunger strike to draw attention to the way people with compassionate reasons are treated in quarantine.

www.abc.net.au

another example of total heartlessness. I hope his hunger strike gets some attention.

 

[roogirl]

James wasn't permitted to see his dying mother after flying home from overseas — now he's on a hunger strike

A West Australian man whose mother died while he was in hotel quarantine in Melbourne is on a hunger strike to draw attention to the way people with compassionate reasons are treated in quarantine.

www.abc.net.au

another example of total heartlessness. I hope his hunger strike gets some attention.

This is the guy from Belgium. Not a funny issue at all but this bit from the article did make me laugh


Mr Turbitt said he was not sure how long he would continue the hunger strike.

"The first few days I was so distraught with despair and grief, I wasn't even hungry anyway," he said.

"I'm not really hungry, still.

"When I feel really weak, I'll probably eat something."

 

[clifford]

- everyone I know personally would rather not be there.

Everyone I know personally would rather be here (well apart from some of my red wall Boris converts).

 

[Seat0B]

Couple granted quarantine exemption to visit dying father

Mark Kilian and his wife Anneli Gericke had been refused permission to leave quarantine to visit his dying father — but Queensland Health later changed its tune.

www.abc.net.au

Well I never thought I’d say this, but at least QLD has finally made a common sense decision, unlike WA. I hope it’s not too late for this family.
I honestly despair of our total lack of commonsense decision making. We have become a nation of scaredy cat namby-pambies with no empathy or can do innovative thinking. I am just astounded that we are still apparently unable to put suitable systems and PPE in place to allow these very small numbers of people in the most dire circumstances the chance to farewell their family members.

I never thought I’d say it, but I’m glad my mother-in-law died in December 2019 or else we would for sure have missed her final days and funeral as she lived in QLD and we do not.

I am so ashamed of what my country has become - or maybe always was and I just didn’t know it.

 

[Pushka]

What expat would come to australia in the current environment? You run the risk of getting cut off from the rest of the world at the drop of a hat. I imagine a lot of current expats will leave once the borders reopen too. I think this isolationist approach will have really long lasting impacts.

Only one that intends to visit for less than 6 months because they can escape again.

 

[clifford]

Only one that intends to visit for less than 6 months because they can escape again.

I think you're missing the point that many people in the UK really do want to come here. It's paradise...

 

[hb13]

I think you're missing the point that many people in the UK really do want to come here. It's paradise...

That's incorrect. From those of us actually living here - Australia is pretty much seen as a communist state. Unless you can bring in hard evidence of that statement, don't say it.

Australia definitely dealt with the virus pretty much better than anywhere else, and the first year was the place to be. But now, Australia is falling behind at an extremely quick rate.

Why would anyone want to be in a country where there is a lockdown every 3 minutes because of one or two cases? Or where the state borders shut all the time with no notice? Paradise? You've got to be kidding.

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Everyone I know personally would rather be here (well apart from some of my red wall Boris converts).

How many people do you personally know in the UK? It must be hundreds of thousands based on your statement that we all want to come to Australia now? lol

 

[SydneySwan]

I think you're missing the point that many people in the UK really do want to come here. It's paradise...

I have lived in Australia on and off since June 1980. I have probably spent around 32 years here in total.

Paradise? Prior to Covid I would largely agree. In fact for most of 2020 I would agree. But since then Australia has seriously dropped the ball and it seems to have no idea where the ball went or even what the game is about anymore. For the first time since I came here I would prefer to be living in the UK.