Predictions of when international flights may resume/bans lifted

[MARTINE]

been hearing murmurs about international borders opening up in some capacity by December.
Hope it happens.

Old proverb …’ the faintest line is more powerful than the loudest voice’…I hope so too

 

[OATEK]

My understanding is - vaccines don't prevent infection, but vaccines reduce the likelihood of more serious illness (ie. stopping Covid moving down to the respiratory tract).

So people who are vaccinated will get infected, might have a "light flu" for a week or two, and might suffer some random "Covid" side-effects.

And if there is a bad mutation, with borders open it will be really hard to prevent a big spread.

Is Australia ready to live with that in 2022 ? I doubt it

How can we avoid it?

 

[Pom-DownUnder]

been hearing murmurs about international borders opening up in some capacity by December.
Hope it happens.

Please expand

 

[somebol]

Please expand

All I can say is that, there are projects happening in dept of home affairs to facilitate opening of borders to some degree.

of course, all of that depends on our political overlords not changing their minds

 

[mviy]

So long as it includes being able to visit the UK or next best some third country that both Australia and UK can freely visit that'll be good.

 

[Pom-DownUnder]

All I can say is that, there are projects happening in dept of home affairs to facilitate opening of borders to some degree.

of course, all of that depends on our political overlords not changing their minds

damnable cloak and dagger, fair enough i'm booked in for leaving Aus on 8/12/21 for the UK for christmas so i'm QUITE interested thanks

 

[somebol]

damnable cloak and dagger, fair enough i'm booked in for leaving Aus on 8/12/21 for the UK for christmas so i'm QUITE interested thanks

i am booked for 11/12

 

[Pom-DownUnder]

i am booked for 11/12

with my luck i expect they will open on the 9th lol

 

[burmans]

All I can say is that, there are projects happening in dept of home affairs to facilitate opening of borders to some degree.

of course, all of that depends on our political overlords not changing their minds

I think its clear that Fed government wants to use the Dougherty report to open up somewhat when we reach the 70/80% thresholds and on todays rates that may happen well before Xmas (whether that stays the case is still to be seen). So of course government departments will have been tasked to look at this.

We know that NSW are on board with this strategy but would NSW be able to go it alone, maybe but not likely. Given all states have in theory accepted the report then they should but unfortunately this fight is not over for some states.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

I think its clear that Fed government wants to use the Dougherty report to open up somewhat when we reach the 70/80% thresholds and on todays rates that may happen well before Xmas (whether that stays the case is still to be seen). So of course government departments will have been tasked to look at this.

We know that NSW are on board with this strategy but would NSW be able to go it alone, maybe but not likely. Given all states have in theory accepted the report then they should but unfortunately this fight is not over for some states.

Well in terms of the topic of international travel - perhaps its enough for NSW and the Federal Government to go it alone.

Everyone can leave via Sydney in a worse case scenario.

Every other State/Territory can have as a worse case scenario a ban or double quarantine requirement.

 

[mviy]

I wouldn't like double quarantine, but it would be worth it to see family. It's been too long.

 

[Seat0B]

Based on today's situation in NSW, Vic, ACT and NT I am feeling ever more gloomy about our prospects of opening international border any time soon. We certainly won't be opening any state borders in the near future. Over. It.

 

[mviy]

The Pinkenba quarantine facility in QLD will be operational sometime in the first half of next year: New 1000 bed quarantine facility confirmed

I do wonder if once these facilities are operational the state governments will want to close hotel quarantine and send everyone to these facilities rather than implement the home quarantine needed to ease international travel restrictions.

 

[Pom-DownUnder]

Based on today's situation in NSW, Vic, ACT and NT I am feeling ever more gloomy about our prospects of opening international border any time soon. We certainly won't be opening any state borders in the near future. Over. It.

I really dont think its all that bad, I was jumping up and down 6 / 7 months ago screaming that the rollout was going to be weak as while the rest of the world was driving for it we were ambling around in our "not really connected to the rest of the world it'll be fine" attitude.

A little bit of pain a little bit of squeeze to get those jabs into people so we can tick whatever box is needed to say to the Gov "we did your lockdown, we took your vaccines, get out of our lives please".

 

[kamchatsky]

All I can say is that, there are projects happening in dept of home affairs to facilitate opening of borders to some degree.

of course, all of that depends on our political overlords not changing their minds

That would be music to my ears if it is true.

I cannot wait for my parent-in-laws to go back to their country. They have been staying with us since Jan 2020, when the whole COVID started, and they were not allowed to leave. I am surprised that I am not yet an alcoholic.

 

[Seat0B]

I really dont think its all that bad, I was jumping up and down 6 / 7 months ago screaming that the rollout was going to be weak as while the rest of the world was driving for it we were ambling around in our "not really connected to the rest of the world it'll be fine" attitude.

A little bit of pain a little bit of squeeze to get those jabs into people so we can tick whatever box is needed to say to the Gov "we did your lockdown, we took your vaccines, get out of our lives please".

I hear you, but the talk from politicians today is that getting to the 70/80% will not actually make that much of a difference after all. I don't see how this is going to resolve.

 

[Pom-DownUnder]

I hear you, but the talk from politicians today is that getting to the 70/80% will not actually make that much of a difference after all. I don't see how this is going to resolve.

I really think shame will get us across that line, the rest of the western world is getting on with it, as sad as the situation in SYD is, its 7 people yesterday. I mean ... what is this even comparable to? amount of people that fell off a ladder? accidentally took too many pills? death by motorvehicle? and we are shutting the country down for it. This will not stand long term.

 

[jb747]

I hear you, but the talk from politicians today is that getting to the 70/80% will not actually make that much of a difference after all. I don't see how this is going to resolve.

Presumably the politicians would like it to go on forever, as it gives them something to blame for the state of the country, other than themselves. I suspect that will come home to roost soon enough though.

 

[dajop]

I really think shame will get us across that line, the rest of the western world is getting on with it, as sad as the situation in SYD is, its 7 people yesterday. I mean ... what is this even comparable to? amount of people that fell off a ladder? accidentally took too many pills? death by motorvehicle? and we are shutting the country down for it. This will not stand long term.

7 people a day in a population of 8 million people across a year is equal to roughly 8000 a year on an annual basis Australia wide. Or around #4/#5 cause of death - similar to lung cancer, about 6-7 times the annual road toll.

Causes of Death, Australia, 2019

Statistics on the number of deaths, by sex, selected age groups, and cause of death classified to the International Classification of Diseases (ICD)

www.abs.gov.au

 

[JB expat]

Based on today's situation in NSW, Vic, ACT and NT I am feeling ever more gloomy about our prospects of opening international border any time soon. We certainly won't be opening any state borders in the near future. Over. It.

Totally agree - I'm practically in tears today here in Melbourne.