Predictions of when international flights may resume/bans lifted

As I said, that is something that will have to be worked out. I am not a public health or logistics expert. I referred to a member of the family picking you up, not using public transport. Currently buses are used to take everyone to hotel quarantine, so something would have to be arranged if international arrivals are to quarantine at home.
We will put our car into long term car parking and treat this cost as part of the deal to get overseas. No brainer. My brother had his son take their car to the airport on the day of his arrival and let him know where it was parked. Many ways to skin a cat.
 
We will put our car into long term car parking and treat this cost as part of the deal to get overseas. No brainer. My brother had his son take their car to the airport on the day of his arrival and let him know where it was parked. Many ways to skin a cat.
Make sure you consider the car battery in this equation. A modern car and a few weeks at a car park don’t always mix well. Then you would need to interact with someone to get it going, and the only possible government reaction to that would be to lock down again.
 
This is what we already have in Western Australia when returning from medium risk states, although only 4 mins IIRC to respond. Then a telephone call rather than an immediate visit by police.

It might seem Orwellian, but considering that some people go shopping, to gyms and visiting when they are supposed to be quarantining, it became necessary.

It is not stressful at all, and very easy if you are doing the right thing and staying home, which most do. Plus each day you open the app and confirm your health is good. Much better being at home isolating than in a hotel room!
I’m fine with it, if that’s what I need to do to see Seat Son, so be it. However, all the people who actually have COVID and are quarantining at home must also have to do it. Those people have also been found going to the gym, work, shopping and visiting when they actually have COVID and are 100% a risk to the community. Whereas people from overseas may or may not (and given vax and testing regime, probably don’t) actual have COVID.

So I at least half agree with you @Pom-DownUnder. I’m ok to do it, but agree that it is a continuing discrimination against overseas Australians.
 
I don’t disagree that it would be fair to have local infections face the same rules as returning overseas travellers.

However in SA people who hadn’t tested positive were thrown into medi hotels for two weeks simply for being at exposure sites. If the measures for people catching COVID-19 or exposed to it are too onerous then people will try to avoid doing check-ins.

Whereas people coming from overseas can’t avoid having the rules applied to them.

We also don’t want the situation where the govts say home quarantine is at capacity with local infections so we need another pause on international arrivals.
 
Where are you going to get crew from, given that in this dystopia they’ll be permanently in quarantine?
For non-Aussie international crew - I would imagine that there will be vaccination requirements as per airline policies and/or country policies as well as testing, plus continued designated hotels and strict rules.

For Aussie international crew - vaccination plus testing...and yes, they could end up being a source of an outbreak, but at 80%+ vaccination, my take is that this is an acceptable risk.
 
We will put our car into long term car parking and treat this cost as part of the deal to get overseas. No brainer. My brother had his son take their car to the airport on the day of his arrival and let him know where it was parked. Many ways to skin a cat.
Same. It wouldn't be THAT much higher than the cost of Ubers each way. And certainly less than the cost of hotel quarantine. We have been overseas in the past for 6 weeks at a time and no issues with the car battery.

I am the sort that if I give my word to do something I do it. If I signed up for travel overseas under the stipulation of 14 days home quarantine, ankle bracelet, govt padlock on the front gate, phone apps then I would 100% honour my word and I would not sneak out or allow visitors to my property.
 
Same. It wouldn't be THAT much higher than the cost of Ubers each way. And certainly less than the cost of hotel quarantine. We have been overseas in the past for 6 weeks at a time and no issues with the car battery.

I am the sort that if I give my word to do something I do it. If I signed up for travel overseas under the stipulation of 14 days home quarantine, ankle bracelet, govt padlock on the front gate, phone apps then I would 100% honour my word and I would not sneak out or allow visitors to my property.
What i'm willing to do does not equal what i'm willing to have forced on people, especially selectively.
 
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No one is forcing anyone to travel overseas. It is called a consequence of doing so in a pandemic.
I'm curious what other liberal democracies are doing. I get the feeling they are all having some form of traffic light quarantine, depending on country risk and personal vaccination status.

Commonsense will only take people so far - many think you are not at risk of sunburn on a cloudy day, but science tell us otherwise.

I think its been shown Australia will never be a Sweden and go out on a limb as to its covid policy.
 
No I don’t anymore. But we quarantine local first level contacts for 14 days so moot point.
do we? do they get made to instal apps with 15 minute check ins? or do we ask them to and trust them, perhaps a check or two along the way
 
do we? do they get made to instal apps with 15 minute check ins? or do we ask them to and trust them, perhaps a check or two along the way
Where are you getting these 15 minute ping info from? On the other hand if following quarantine rules it’s not an issue, is it.
 
do we? do they get made to instal apps with 15 minute check ins? or do we ask them to and trust them, perhaps a check or two along the way
I think the OP is referring to the close contacts being rounded up and forced into HQ.
 
Where are you getting these 15 minute ping info from? On the other hand if following quarantine rules it’s not an issue, is it.
my point is that people arriving from overseas and thereby 'suspicious;' in regard to covid should not face MORE stringent restrictions than those who are in 'suspicious' circumstance in a domestic setting, in a restaurant with a positive, on a train with a positive etc.
 

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