Qantas boosts international capacity, wet lease Finnair aircraft

[Princess Fiona]

Just a small but quite important point I have thought of.

The bedding ie. Pillows and blanket would ideally need to be supplied by AY for the J cabin.
The tiny white QF pillow won’t be remotely sufficient for this seat.

 

[encryptededdy]

Just a small but quite important point I have thought of.

The bedding ie. Pillows and blanket would ideally need to be supplied by AY for the J cabin.
The tiny white QF pillow won’t be remotely sufficient for this seat.

Also I believe there's a special AirLounge mattress topper too.

 

[Princess Fiona]

Also I believe there's a special AirLounge mattress topper too.

There is but that’s neither here nor there to the comfort of the seat. It’s shaped for the base with the cut outs etc but wouldn’t be essential.

The pillows are non negotiable

 

[AndyC1970]

In January this year I flew J QF Mel-Per , QR Per-DOH, AY DOH-HEL. I loved the new AY product, as well as the meals. The cabin staff were fun and attentive. Both the QR and AY flights were so good they reminded my of how much QF's standards have dropped under AJ.

 

[SCM]

Good news a lot more flights to Tokyo, that should help bring down airfares.

 

[levelnine]

Good news a lot more flights to Tokyo, that should help bring down airfares.

Indeed. This is actually the best news of this announcement. Qantas is driving down its own prices by supplying the market with a lot more capacity — may it continue to do so.

 

[Quickstatus]

At least SC will be uploaded a lot quicker than an AY flight operated by AY.

 

[pauly7]

I can understand that. A lot of people I know have no interest going via the ME.

And some companies actually don’t allow their staff to transit through ME as well (I am able to, but not all my clients are able to), after the Qatar incident this increased.

 

[DrGlobeTrekker]

It is great to hear that there is full mileage and status credit accrual for QF frequent flyer members. However, what does the new arrangement mean for those on other OW airlines' frequent flyer programmes. Do they receive mileage and status credit following their airline's accrual rate with QF or with AY or do they receive nothing as these flights (based on their QF flight numbers) are technically sold as QF codeshare flights? Interested to hear the thoughts of fellow AFF members.

 

[DrGlobeTrekker]

QF newsroom --> QANTAS BOOSTS INTERNATIONAL NETWORK: RESTORING CAPACITY, ADDING MORE AIRCRAFT, LAUNCHING NEW ROUTES



In a small E190 ! Little surprised BNE-WLG is not OOL-WLG

Based on Flightradar24's flight records, the average flight time by Air NZ (currently, the sole operator for WLG-BNE vv.) on this route is approx. 3.5-4 hours. I imagine it would be quite dreadful to be flying in the small E190s that have no IFE in both C and Y classes on any flights longer than 2 hours. Seriously hope that QF will reconsider the plane that they would use for this route.

 

[justinbrett]

It is great to hear that there is full mileage and status credit accrual for QF frequent flyer members. However, what does the new arrangement mean for those on other OW airlines' frequent flyer programmes. Do they receive mileage and status credit following their airline's accrual rate with QF or with AY or do they receive nothing as these flights (based on their QF flight numbers) are technically sold as QF codeshare flights? Interested to hear the thoughts of fellow AFF members.

It’s just a regular QF flight, not a codeshare. It will work like QantasLink - for all intents and purposes these are Qantas operated. There will be no AY code unless that is a marketing AY code (codeshare), not an operating code.

In the GDS these are marked with an asterisk QF (**) which is how subsidiary / wetlease flights appear including QantasLink. If it was a codeshare it would appear as QF (AY).

 

[ausfox]

I have flown AY from Asia to Europe a number of times and received SCs in a timely manner each time.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Based on Flightradar24's flight records, the average flight time by Air NZ (currently, the sole operator for WLG-BNE vv.) on this route is approx. 3.5-4 hours. I imagine it would be quite dreadful to be flying in the small E190s that have no IFE in both C and Y classes on any flights longer than 2 hours. Seriously hope that QF will reconsider the plane that they would use for this route.

E190s are great! Loads of legroom even though the pitch can be quite small. 2+2 so no middle seat. Business class has generous seating with solo options available.

IFE will be a problem, as will hand luggage.

 

[justinbrett]

When I read the ** I get the impression that it's not a treaty - some agreement of a lower status than a treaty.

That's how all of the air services treaties are named

eg
UK - Agreement between the Government of Australia and the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland concerning Air Services.
USA - Air Transport Agreement between the Government of Australia and the Government of the United States of America

 

[Ade]

Sounds like labour hire companies.

Finnair partners based in Singapore and Bangkok

Please not DNATA from SIN. They have, in my personal experience, the worst customer service.

Post automatically merged: May 21, 2023

no more routing via the other caps.

But ... But ... that'd also mean no additional SC?

 

[Princess Fiona]

Please not DNATA from SIN. They have, in my personal experience, the worst customer service.

Post automatically merged: May 21, 2023

But ... But ... that'd also mean no additional SC?

These aren’t new cabin crew. They are already flying for AY and based in SIN.

 

[AIRwin]

Sydney – Singapore

Flights to increase from 14 to 15 per week from 31 March 2024.

Deja vu:
Post in thread 'Additional flights to SIN, CGK, NOU from Dec 2018' Additional flights to SIN, CGK, NOU from Dec 2018

 

[SYD]

Deja vu:
Post in thread 'Additional flights to SIN, CGK, NOU from Dec 2018' Additional flights to SIN, CGK, NOU from Dec 2018

Do know yet the schedule for this extra flight? As per that old thread, it would be so good to have another day flight back to Oz (as QF32 once did).

 

[AIRwin]

Do know yet the schedule for this extra flight?

 

[ShrinkWrapped]

These aren’t new cabin crew. They are already flying for AY and based in SIN.

Specifically AY has cabin crew bases at Asian destinations - SIN/HKG/DEL
Crew are from an outsourced company called AAP aviation. They will wear AY uniform, fly AY planes, conduct AY service but will be from an outport base. NZ similarly did the same with its PVG route where they had a PVG base where they paid their FAs less than the salary a NZ based FA would cost them

I’ve done AY HEL-HKG and HEL-SIN a few times. On each occasion that FAs have actually been very attentive, professional and I feel very high quality. Better than a lot of QF crew if I’m entirely honest. It’s a little like CX-lite if anything. If i got to choose between QF 81/82 and 291/292, I would definitely pick the latter since I like the new AY J seat and AY sin-based FAs