Qantas / Emirates tie up (Partnership inc. Codeshare, Status)

[zachary.august]

Does this mean that Qantas will cease flying to Johannesburg since you can get there with EK via Dubai?

 

[suziec]

Hi K3nnis,

I do not have that specific detail at this stage. More info will come out over the coming weeks as we work through all the changes.

Cheers,
Red Roo

Thanks Red Roo, sorry our posts crossed.

 

[TheInsider]

Does this mean that Qantas will cease flying to Johannesburg since you can get there with EK via Dubai?

Wouldn't surprise me since the JSA with SAA is coming to an end.

 

[deka2]

My wife and I have a J 280K booking next May/June with the last flights being DXB-HKG-SYD, om CX and QF(747).

I would gladly change this for EK 380 DXB-SYD if the flights become available.

 

[TonyHancock]

Glad to see the AF partnership end. I don't think that was an airline worth associating with.

It keeps getting better. Anything that takes AF out of the equation can only be a good thing.

I presume EK flies from T3 at LHR, so another lounge option presumably.............on top of the usual OW ones.

 

[pmdg7444]

Hopefully someone can correct me here - but as I understand it, if you are booked on SIN - LHR, SIN - FRA post Apr 2013, you wont be rerouted via DXB on EK. It would have to be on BA and for FRA, via LHR all on BA

 

[Red Roo]

That would be a very long flight! No, we have no plans to cancel any flights to Johannesburg.

 

[markis10]

Hopefully someone can correct me here - but as I understand it, if you are booked on SIN - LHR, SIN - FRA post Apr 2013, you wont be rerouted via DXB on EK. It would have to be on BA and for FRA, via LHR all on BA

As with the many route changes we have seen in the past year or so, the commercial policy on options for affected passengers will be released promptly and soon, I would not be expecting an answer just yet.

 

[amaroo]

I wonder if someone in QF has remembered to ring the builder working on the new SIN Flounge - seems like his services are no longer required

 

[Oneworldplus2]

I wonder if someone in QF has remembered to ring the builder working on the new SIN Flounge - seems like his services are no longer required

What about QF's ugly little sister? JQ? You never know....

 

[Geoffrey]

I'm a Y traveller.
Will it be possible to fly SYD-DXB-LHR on EK, since their product is better than QF's, and earn the same amount of QFF points?
What would be the point of flying QF on the first leg?

 

[anat0l]

The question remains what aircraft will QF use for SYD-SIN-SYD ?

I suppose QF could do what they did with HKG and still have 388s on this route (MEL-SIN, on the other hand, may miss out and be relegated either to 744s or 333s).

That said, if they did that and maintained QF1 / QF9 via DXB, there aren't enough QF 388s with F fitted for that to work unless they used their upcoming 3-class J/W/Y 388s on the route (which would have the same virtual effect as putting a refitted 744 on the route).

Otherwise, it's 333s all around. Seeing as QF probably views SIN as a jump point for JQ (especially if they are really thinking of just beefing up the number of services to SIN), I don't see them being too excited in putting an aircraft equipped with F on this route. (That doesn't seem congruous with the HKG strategy, but so there).

That cheers me up.

Here's a $64,000 question: What timings will the hypothetical QF1 / QF9 (SYD-DXB-LHR and MEL-DXB-LHR) take? Or what would people prefer?

I'm not sure what EK connections to Europe are like at DXB, but the brains trust mainly at FT reckon that the most connecting activity at DXB happens in the wee hours of the morning. Not sure if people are ready to be frazzled by that (though connecting in SIN after only 8 hours and leaving just after midnight is another thing).

If QF1 leaves quite late (close to 11pm) then it's going to be a sure sucker for being a high risk of regularly being cancelled due to overstepping curfew limitations.

I'm assuming that QF's A380s will easily make SYD-DXB and MEL-DXB without needing to stop along the way for refuelling (adverse conditions notwithstanding). That said, I'd be looking forward (pun intended, F) to having a degustation meal at the start of a 14 hour flight which then leaves plenty of time for sleep (and the inevitable pre-landing meal). Of course, if QF start either service in the morning (breakfast service first up) or late at night (supper service), then they don't have to stock a degustation (that would be sneaky and a bummer).

 

[oz_mark]

I wonder if someone in QF has remembered to ring the builder working on the new SIN Flounge - seems like his services are no longer required

Why? They have only said the flights are being retimed to offer better connections on Asia. They seem to still have plans there, in fact, Asia is part of the strategy.

So, he better keep building!

 

[markis10]

Nice capital gain for those that bought in last month, the market is reacting well to the news.

 

[dajop]

So the answer to my question is no, there will be no more A380s to SIN? For those of us who fly to SIN and not all the way to London.

Just to speculate, it can't be ruled out. Today HKG has a non-continuing A380 service, so it could be used to service SYD-SIN. I can't see both SIN& HKG being serviced by A380s though. And certainly not MEL-SIN.

 

[kezsco]

Now...who's lining up hungrily with their points (or banking up points) to try and snare some EK F seats (even if only for Classic Awards)?

Well, if this opens up a whole heap of Classic Awards, then even better. I have a stack of points that I can't really use because work doesn't allow me to plan much more than 6 months in advance. And by then, all the Qantas Classic awards are gone. I blame the lack of international routes for that dilemma. (I'm not using my points on domestic flights).

It will also work well for Qantas too. They may lure me back for international flights through them. My next bookings are to LHR via CX in J. Yes, I know that I don't get the chance to 'lottery' it to first class or double FFPs, but CX J is between a QFJ and F (no freepajamas though) and if I can't sensibly spend my points now, then it doesn't bother me that I am missing out on the double FFPs. But, if I can start using my points sensibly again on international J award flights, then I am back on wagon - keep those handcuffs on!

For me - I am looking forward to going one stop to Zurich.

 

[k3nnis]

Doesn't SYD-SIN justify a A380 for QF? Is SYD-HKG a busier route?

 

[markis10]

Doesn't SYD-SIN justify a A380 for QF? Is SYD-HKG a busier route?

SYD-SIN gets 50% more pax then SYD-HKG overall, operating the A380 to HKG gives QF a different story to sell, versus SQ and their A380s (of which the last was delivered today).

 

[k3nnis]

Ok thanks. It will be nice for the pax if QF can keep A380 for SYD-SIN and SYD-HKG

Although I think I would prefer to go via CX for SYD-HKG in their new J....

SYD-SIN gets 50% more pax then SYD-HKG overall, operating the A380 to HKG gives QF a different story to sell, versus SQ and their A380s (of which the last was delivered today).

 

[Awesom Andy]

Today HKG has a non-continuing A380 service, so it could be used to service SYD-SIN.

I think it's going to Manila for a refit.

At the moment, the A380 fleet is being used as much as they can already, so in keeping QF1/2/9/10, there simply aren't any A380 to service SIN unless there are new aircrafts (not for a while) or aircrafts being pulled from current routes (unlikely).

My guess is the ex FRA 744 taking up the slack for now, until the 787 are delivered to JQ, when they can further add services with the A330, and then eventually retire the 744s. Adding code shares on to the SIN-MEL/BNE EK flights would also be included in the "frequency increase".