Qantas FF and Woolworths create new loyalty alliance

[PLANT]

Hi all,

Concerning this 500 point bonus.
1. If I have the Wollies Rewards that has 2 other family members linked to my card and then link My Wollies rewards card to QFF then I get:

1. 500 QFF points?
2. 1500 QFF points?

or

Do I have to get the 1 family QFF member to link his card individually?

Regards

 

[moa999]

Orange Balloons and Qantas signage over the security gates outside my Woolies this morning.
Ready for a big shop this week - my fridge is almost bare!

 

[penegal]

Orange Balloons and Qantas signage over the security gates outside my Woolies this morning.
Ready for a big shop this week - my fridge is almost bare!

Likewise, my fridge is getting pretty empty. I think 'this week' means tonight after work for me

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Hi all,

Concerning this 500 point bonus.
1. If I have the Wollies Rewards that has 2 other family members linked to my card and then link My Wollies rewards card to QFF then I get:

1. 500 QFF points?
2. 1500 QFF points?

or

Do I have to get the 1 family QFF member to link his card individually?

Regards

Each person has to have their own Everday crad and QFF account.

Linking only applies to fuel vouchers.

On the 500 point bonus I think you had to be joined up by today...and so hence that oppoortunity has most likely now gone.

 

[321takeoff]

There are no different levels of point earning relating to how you join QFF.

For those who previously considered joining QFF but baulked at the $82.50 fee this is a great way to avoid that fee.

awesome, thanks for the clarification serfty!

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Going by the flood of newbies to this site one consequence of this Woolies/QFF alliance is going to be a lot of new AFF members and lurkers.

 

[samh004]

Orange Balloons and Qantas signage over the security gates outside my Woolies this morning.
Ready for a big shop this week - my fridge is almost bare!

Ditto, except I'm leaving tomorrow, so buying a whole load of new food would be a bit wasteful. Will have to wait a month before I can start earning.

Going by the flood of newbies to this site one consequence of this Woolies/QFF alliance is going to be a lot of new AFF members and lurkers.

I was going to suggest perhaps closing this thread and opening a new thread, with the first post being a long FAQ anticipating any questions so we don't have those questions posted once a day when new members don't read. Admittedly, they still wont read, but everyone can just post a link to the first post.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I was going to suggest perhaps closing this thread and opening a new thread, with the first post being a long FAQ anticipating any questions so we don't have those questions posted once a day when new members don't read. Admittedly, they still wont read, but everyone can just post a link to the first post.

Beyond that the Mods may wish to give consderation to a new explanatory Stickie/s.

For if a lot of newbies join in a short period there will be huge increase in basic questions in threads, and this has already started from what I can see.

This may help then, as well as existing users.

 

[Flying Fox]

Just noticed something on the QF webpage. If you follow the link below -

Frequent Flyer - Earning Points

And within the Cars box, use the drop-down button and there is a new FUEL option. It links to a missing web page.

Not sure if its related to Woolworths fuel or something else.

Maybe someone accidently let the cat out of the bag?

 

[one9]

Seems the Woolworths IT department was not very well prepared. I am trying to register my card on their website but it keeps timing out and getting errors.

 

[oz_mark]

Not sure if its related to Woolworths fuel or something else.

Maybe someone accidently let the cat out of the bag?

Woolworths-Caltex have been announced as a coming later this year partner, so I would assume this is what it is for. Similarly under shopping you will find Electronics, which presumably will be for **** Smith when it comes on board.

 

[samh004]

Seems the Woolworths IT department was not very well prepared. I am trying to register my card on their website but it keeps timing out and getting errors.

Yeah I've been having problems too. Awful. Been getting a little better, but still had a few problems.

 

[Harpoon]

Is my rough calculation wrong? And BTW I'm just pasing my evening with some maths! How sad

But something seems seriously bad value about this scheme.... UNLESS you pump massive amounts through woolies owned stores.

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Say over a period of 1 year, a couple spends $130 a week on groceries from WW. $6760 spent in the year.

130 -30 = 100 points per week. 5200 points earned from the new scheme each year. Plus the 6760 points from a credit card double dip on a 1:1 ratio card. So it's 11960 points lets just call it 12k

If the same groceries were to cost $125 a week at Coles or IGA for arguments sake...$6500 spent. Plus 6500 points on the credit card.

A saving of $260 plus 6500 points.

Currently Qantas has $69 fares MEL-SYD one way. Not to mention Virgin and Tiger and Jetstar every day and sale fares etc

12k points gets you to Syd and half way back (16k needed).

So for this couple, the whole scheme seems rather silly to dedicate yourself to woolies. better to shop smart and shop for the lowest prices.

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Compare it to say a large family spending $400 a week on groceries.

370*52 = 19,240 points + cc 20,800 = ~40k points.

Now thats more substantial..... but not sure how much large families spend on shopping each week. I live alone atm But again they need to dedicate themselves to woolies and lose out if coles or other supermarkets are cheaper.

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Thoughts?

 

[serfty]

Hey, the way I approach it is that since a lot of our shopping is at woollies anyway, any extra can't hurt - for me it's a nice top up, certainly easier than the restaurant earnings ...

Wether to change one's habits due to this, I think not.

 

[oz_mark]

Thoughts?

My grocery purchases are shared between Woolworths, Aldi and Coles and is generally price driven. This is not going to change my spending habits.

Maybe if there are bonus points thrown around for specific products, I'd look at it, but at its base rate, I'll take the points but won't chase them.

 

[Harpoon]

Hey, the way I approach it is that since a lot of our shopping is at woollies anyway, any extra can't hurt - for me it's a nice top up, certainly easier than the restaurant earnings ...

Wether to change one's habits due to this, I think not.

Yeah I just hope people don't see this as some awsome scheme where they will earn zillions of points for nothing.

Ultimately, woolies could put their prices up 1% (just for my argument) and people would stay with them because of the QFF points.

It's brilliant.

My grocery purchases are shared between Woolworths, Aldi and Coles and is generally price driven. This is not going to change my spending habits.

Maybe if there are bonus points thrown around for specific products, I'd look at it, but at its base rate, I'll take the points but won't chase them.

I shop at woolies anyway since around my house there are 3 within 900m and the coles thats a bit further is a pretty cough store compared to the new woolies they just opened.

Anyway just thought it was worth pointing out. I know it should be obvious anyway but readers of this forum should realise the BEST way to get flights out of shopping is in fact to shop smart and buy cheap and put the savings in the bank I hope the hype of this scheme doesnt overwhelm people like a read on about 20 pages where people were figuring out how to get the most out of the wish cards etc. :/

 

[lovetravellingoz]

So for this couple, the whole scheme seems rather silly to dedicate yourself to woolies. better to shop smart and shop for the lowest prices.


Thoughts?

Indeed...but this is my attitude in general.

I value everything...including my time.

I optimise everything including cash discounts.

I also optimise which FF program I award points to and run three. QF, KF and BMI.

1 QFF point is worth say 2 cents (or a 2 % discount) to me...maybe 4 cents if I get that RTW J Award.

So that is too small a discount to go out of my way for in a significant way when most of what I buy is on sale or discounted. That is I can often save more than the 2 % by buying elsewhere....and that the 2% is not worth a lot in terms of my time.

ie I spent $130 at Safeways today and earnt 100 points. this is worth $2-4 to me. An ok saving, but not worth that much of an effort to get.


So I will:

• buy at Safeways where things are the same price , accept that Safeways is my closest Supermarket and so hence will score some convenience purchases (ie I value my time...). I will however alter my behaviour to do some bigger shops to minimise the $30 minimum.
• buy at NQR because many things are cheaper
• some things at Aldis...but there is not one near me, otherwise I would use it more
• still buy meat at the Coles near my work on Monday as I get meat /fish for upto 50% off and while there will buy other sale/discounted items...and so that 2 % saving at Safeways is not relevant.
• still buy a lot of my fruit and veg at my local greengrocers for flavour, quality and cost savings..

So I won't

• automatically now buy at Safeways.

I will earn somewhere between 5-10K QFF points per year from this (worth $100-400) and so this is "nice" rather than great. it is worth me getting the card out of my wallet, but is not worth much in changing my shopping habits.

On the other hand I would estimate that my "selective" shopping habits save me $3000-5000 per year. But I am a ruthless shopper. So this is a strong incentive for me to not switch exclusively to Safeways.

I do however but most of my Petrol from Safeways (the servo I pas just so happens to always be upto a 1 cent per litre than the Shell and so when added to the 4 cent voucher is always cheaper than the Independents in my case) and so am hoping that they award 1 QFF per $ for petrol purchases....and so this would make my current fuel purchase even more economical.

Big W on getting the QFF point will probably have me go there where in the past I might have thought K-Mart.

 

[medhead]

I'm surprised by the importance that is being placed on chasing specials. I really don't think that that saves very much at all. The biggest saving that you can make is to not enter a shop in the first place. These stores depend on impulse buying to get money out of customers, certainly extra impluse spending makes them more money then they lose of specials. Everyone knows that no matter what you enter a store intending to buy 8 out of 10 times you leave with something extra. The way to avoid this trap is to shop with a list and to shop as few times as possible.

We spend, for a 2+2 family, $250 per week on groceries. That is regardless of woolies or coles. We only buy from a list and only shop once per week. The family is feed and we have plenty of snacks. The specials are checked each week purchases of certain items are only made when on special. ATM Woolies is the closest and most convenient shop, so we shop there.

I'm going to start buying Wish cards @ 5% discount. So I miss out on 55 points per $100 (visa vs AMEX), but I save $5. My spend should get me 440 points per week. These points are only a top up in my view. Hence I can't fault Harpoon's maths.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I'm surprised by the importance that is being placed on chasing specials. I really don't think that that saves very much at all. .

I don't so much chase specials..as mark downs.,,but yes take advantage of specials as well and in particular loss-leader specials. I rarely pay full-price for anything. I don't bother browsing catalogues (which are mainly for impulse buyers) but have an excellent memory for prices...and for when particular stores reduce their prices. Not to mention choice of store in the first place.

Today I cooked for dinner chilli calamari ($5 instead of $11) followed by a stuffed turkey roast ( $6 instead of $13) all purchased from Coles washed down witha nice white I bought at Vintage Cellars Clearance bin ($11 down from $30). Half price Porterhouse Steak is on the menu for tomorrow night. I had no idea what I would be eating tonight till I entered the store...but I know that that particular store always has massive mark-downs each Monday (most other stores only knock off a $1 or 2).

The biggest saving that you can make is to not enter a shop in the first place. These stores depend on impulse buying to get money out of customers, certainly extra impluse spending makes them more money then they lose of specials. .

While it is true that not entering will reduce expenditure, I do like to eat as does my wife and three kids.

While I realise some are...I am not an impulse buyer.

Indeed I am the opposite as I maximise my savings by buying at the best price...and as mentioned I am not wedded to the major supermarkets.

If you are a desciplined shopper though, and flexible with your menu, and I am on both counts, one can take advantage of the loss leader items that these stores offer, as well as mark-downs and good specials.

Stores are creatures of habit..and if one notices their cycles and habits there are genuine savings to be made.

And yes I avoid engineered "sale" items which are not real with illusionary savings.

 

[samh004]

Nobody should be looking at this as their sole way to get free flights, it's just an extra that goes along with all the other earning opportunities... and ... actually flying on a plane.

I certainly have no delusions, but already shop at Woolworths and will now just make sure I make one larger purchase than several smaller ones, to take advantage of any earning. I doubt it'll get me a free flight anytime soon, but I wouldn't be looking for that either.