Qantas Fleet

[juddles]

Side track: hope that QFs 787 dont have herring bone seating in PE/J.
Granted some like it, but to a plane buff who loves looking out the window, sitting in NZs J herring bone 777, I didnt like it.

First world problems?

Actually, I hear you. Have done J in quite a few airlines, but not herringbone yet - wonder how fun that is when travelling with partner??

 

[cmon0005]

First world problems?

Actually, I hear you. Have done J in quite a few airlines, but not herringbone yet - wonder how fun that is when travelling with partner??

I'd love for them to use the same seating QR use on their 787's, probably the best Business class I have been on so far.

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

Would bring all my flying back to QF if they have dom PE!
I dont really need J all the time, but having that bit of extra space, without paying J premium prices would be nice.
Going to pay QP via AFF once my SG runs out, so dont want/need to pay that per visit QP access fee in J tickets.
Paws crossed it (QFs 787) will be in some dom services too, to augment the 330.

 

[PaulST]

Would bring all my flying back to QF if they have dom PE!
I dont really need J all the time, but having that bit of extra space, without paying J premium prices would be nice.
Going to pay QP via AFF once my SG runs out, so dont want/need to pay that per visit QP access fee in J tickets.
Paws crossed it (QFs 787) will be in some dom services too, to augment the 330.

PE is a great option for a day flight where the flat-bed-seat is kinda wasted.

I'm curious to know, if QF want the 789 to replace the 744s, wouldn't the longer 787-10 be closer to the 744 seats wise? I do note, though, that the 787-10 isn't due until 2018 (which in Boeing language, is 2022).

 

[maninblack]

PE is a great option for a day flight where the flat-bed-seat is kinda wasted.

I'm curious to know, if QF want the 789 to replace the 744s, wouldn't the longer 787-10 be closer to the 744 seats wise? I do note, though, that the 787-10 isn't due until 2018 (which in Boeing language, is 2022).

Which in Qantas language would be no earlier than 2025 by which time they will probably be only flying domestic

 

[moa999]

I think Qantas need another aircraft to replace some of the 747s (is. 777x / 350) but will all depend on what they do with remaining A380 orders. Alternatively they can just boost frequencies / fly to secondary destinations with just the 787.

I wonder if the new LH contract also included provisions for other types.

 

[Mattg]

The Boeing 787 orders will hardly be a surprise. I heard on galley FM as far back as February that they expect QF to take its first (own) 787 by 2018. These would then be used on routes like YVR and open up new route possibilities like SFO and BER.

As for JNB and SCL, I could see these routes either operated by 787s or by A380s with reduced frequency in the future.

 

[Melburnian1]

Page 75 of the May 2015 investor day QF presentation that moa999 helpfully supplied mentions 'dual door boardings' (to be introduced as part of '35 minute turnarounds in FY16, meaning sometime between July 2015 and June 2016.

I have yet to read the remainder of the document but I assume that this means that QF passengers will be split into two with the rear half by rows having to go down and up stairs to board or alight a la VA or sometimes TT when aerobridges are used.

Interesting: please correct me, but to date this has not been a feature of QF metalled flights in recent years has it?

 

[Mattg]

Page 75 of the May 2015 investor day QF presentation that moa999 helpfully supplied mentions 'dual door boardings' (to be introduced as part of '35 minute turnarounds in FY16, meaning sometime between July 2015 and June 2016.

I have yet to read the remainder of the document but I assume that this means that QF passengers will be split into two with the rear half by rows having to go down and up stairs to board or alight a la VA or sometimes TT when aerobridges are used.

Interesting: please correct me, but to date this has not ben a feature of QF metalled flights in recent years has it?

You are correct, they are indeed planning to start using forward and rear doors for boarding. And no, this has not been usual practice in most ports previously.

 

[Ikara]

Would bring all my flying back to QF if they have dom PE!
I dont really need J all the time, but having that bit of extra space, without paying J premium prices would be nice.
Going to pay QP via AFF once my SG runs out, so dont want/need to pay that per visit QP access fee in J tickets.
Paws crossed it (QFs 787) will be in some dom services too, to augment the 330.

Now there's a thought. Three class domestic airlines. Ah, the romanticism of Australian and Ansett. For those who don't remember, they were a couple of airlines we used to have that operated three class aircraft in the OLDEN days. Ah, the old three class DC9!

"For those who are in love, and those who caaaaaaan remember!"

 

[RickyT84]

Page 75 of the May 2015 investor day QF presentation that moa999 helpfully supplied mentions 'dual door boardings' (to be introduced as part of '35 minute turnarounds in FY16, meaning sometime between July 2015 and June 2016.

I have yet to read the remainder of the document but I assume that this means that QF passengers will be split into two with the rear half by rows having to go down and up stairs to board or alight a la VA or sometimes TT when aerobridges are used.

Interesting: please correct me, but to date this has not been a feature of QF metalled flights in recent years has it?

A trial was conducted recently on a BNE-SYD flight and it seems that passengers loved the quicker boarding and disembarking process.

 

[BD1959]

A trial was conducted recently on a BNE-SYD flight and it seems that passengers loved the quicker boarding and disembarking process.

This was trialled over a number of weeks in ADL.

Regards,

BD

 

[jimmylikesitwet]

I'm curious to know, if QF want the 789 to replace the 744s, wouldn't the longer 787-10 be closer to the 744 seats wise? I do note, though, that the 787-10 isn't due until 2018 (which in Boeing language, is 2022).

The 787-10 has about 20% less range than the -9 so is not ideal for flights across the pacific. I think a combination of the 787-9 and taking up some of their options on the A380 is a good balance.

 

[gaz0303]

Happened on one of my BNE-SYD flights last week. By the time the rear door was opened most passengers had cleared. I'd rather be walking down the rear stairs than waiting on the plane or queued on the aerobridge.

 

[Himeno]

The 787-10 has about 20% less range than the -9 so is not ideal for flights across the pacific. I think a combination of the 787-9 and taking up some of their options on the A380 is a good balance.

They don't have any A380 options. They have 8 deferred firm orders.

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

Especially for SYDd, as soon as there is a smidgen of rain, or a hint, they then will announce over the PA, we will be using the front left hand door only. Dont remember ever getting the chance to use the ladder at SYD though.
So far, I have only ever used JQ ladder in MELd. Other than that, I have not ever had the chance to use a ladder for QF at MELd.
Have used ladder for QF at ADLd many times.

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

Me being barky, I do wonder, when and more so IF the 787 is brought into domestic flights, would there be a 3 class service trans Australia. East - West of Australia that is.
I never had the chance to use it, but I heard from someone that around 1992 or so, AN/QF used to sell their domestic J as a F.
Edit: I had a look, Harvyk did ask the Q on another post, but the person that mentioned a red boarding pass to me, was outside AFF, and it was years prior to me coming here.
Offtopic: Cant believe there are still AN adverts on Youtube. Brings back tears!

 

[TomVexille]

As for JNB and SCL, I could see these routes either operated by 787s or by A380s with reduced frequency in the future.

787's would require CASA to relax ETOPS rules IIRC

 

[GoldCanyon340]

I never had the chance to use it, but I heard from someone that around 1992 or so, AN/QF used to sell their domestic J as a F.

Both AN and QF (and formerly TN before it) had a domestic F and J product. I never flew in domestic AN F but the old TN 733s and 734s, absorbed into the QF fleet, had really luxurious F seats in rows 1 and 2, followed by up to 5 rows of J that could be converted to Y and hence there was a moving curtain that the Yield Management system used to vary quite a lot.

 

[Mattg]

787's would require CASA to relax ETOPS rules IIRC

Could well be the case - in which case A380s are another option. They could do SCL 3x weekly and JNB 5x weekly with A380s and maintain roughly the same number of seats on the routes.

Though I do note that Air NZ is planning to operate 2-engined 777s to Argentina.