Qantas Points Club Discussion

[Lynda2475]

Members who are already gold or platinum are not the target market of Points Club.

They may not be the primary market but the fact that PC and PC+ get SC earn on classic awards and PC+ get 100 SC rollover shows they considered higher status flyers some.

 

[freney]

I've got a question about Points Club and status points reward. Very sorry if it's answered elsewhere - I've searched but not found it.

Does the status credits on reward flights perk apply if you're Points Club at the time of booking, or at the time of flying?

I'm booking a couple of flights in about 4 weeks time. I'm not currently Points Club, but will be by the time I fly. Do you reckon I'll earn the status credits on the flights?

 

[Lynda2475]

Does the status credits on reward flights perk apply if you're Points Club at the time of booking, or at the time of flying?

At the time of flying.

 

[DejaBrew]

Welcome aboard @freney

 

[exceladdict]

I feel like if you're P1, you're probably in a different category of customer as points club target. While it would be nice to have benefits, let's be real the overlap here is tiny and the program is designed more for the masses, especially Bronze / Silver.

100 SC rollover for WP/Gold is actually reasonably relevant. Thats 1/12 of the way to requal on platinum.

They may not be the primary market but the fact that PC and PC+ get SC earn on classic awards and PC+ get 100 SC rollover shows they considered higher status flyers some.

I think they're both tools to try to convert frequent buyers (or credit card applicants) to frequent flyers.

 

[RichardMEL]

I think they're both tools to try to convert frequent buyers (or credit card applicants) to frequent flyers.

Plus the cost of the SCs awarded is easily covered by the revenue of the hugher spend, so it's not like it's really costing them much to provide.. so win/win.. for those of us who may work to get to PC for the SC earn then we get something at minomal cost to them (and the points spend reduces liability too) but if SC earn, QC membership/passes is not a motivation for the frequent buyers.. well again a win for QF.

It's actually pretty well done when looking at it that way imo.

 

[Flyingwombat]

I've got a question about Points Club and status points reward. Very sorry if it's answered elsewhere - I've searched but not found it.

Does the status credits on reward flights perk apply if you're Points Club at the time of booking, or at the time of flying?

I'm booking a couple of flights in about 4 weeks time. I'm not currently Points Club, but will be by the time I fly. Do you reckon I'll earn the status credits on the flights?

Ts & Cs "Points Club and Points Club Plus members will earn Status Credits on Qantas Marketed Classic Flight Rewards if they are a Points Club or Points Club Plus member at the time they fly." So you will get them!

 

[Danger]

They may not be the primary market but the fact that PC and PC+ get SC earn on classic awards and PC+ get 100 SC rollover shows they considered higher status flyers some.

I see the status credit benefit as 100% targeted towards non-status flyers, intended to give them a leg up out of the lacklustre world of Points Club and into silver (also lacklustre) or higher.

 

[http_x92]

I see the status credit benefit as 100% targeted towards non-status flyers, intended to give them a leg up out of the lacklustre world of Points Club and into silver (also lacklustre) or higher.

Started out the QFF journey during the lockdowns and it certainly put me down a big rabbit hole. Stacked up a lot of points with CCs. Started with using Qantas Club access just after the lockdowns, then using points I accumulated for domestic CR J, which earns SCs with PC. Get a taste of what business class experience looks like, then it leaves me wanting more lol. Then figuring out ways to get to Gold etc.

I have no doubt others have been on the same journey the past few years.

 

[SYD]

I see the status credit benefit as 100% targeted towards non-status flyers, intended to give them a leg up out of the lacklustre world of Points Club and into silver (also lacklustre) or higher.

But status flyers (or the seekers thereof) are the ones who’ll see 100 SCs as a shiny thing! .

Gees, some peeps here have spent shedloads of $$$ on dubious SRs possibly for less?

 

[RichardMEL]

I see the status credit benefit as 100% targeted towards non-status flyers, intended to give them a leg up out of the lacklustre world of Points Club and into silver (also lacklustre) or higher.

It's an interesting idea isn't it? On the surface I agree with you, but looking at the forum here (and yes, in the "status bubble") a lot - myself included - derive a fair number of SC's from reward flights (and those count just like regular ones even for P1, LB etc) so there's incentive also there for the higher tiers also to retain (more easily at least) and/or advance.. and from QF's point of view - burning of those points on rewards both reduces liability and also keeps those handcuffs nice and firmly on.. so again, they win from the PC qualifying spend revenue, and the use of points.

So was this deliberate in the initial calculations of when the program was set up? Wouldn't that be interesting to know. I suspect it was factored in (specially since we know the 100 rollover SC's don't apply to P1 earn for example).

I'd say in some ways it's likely targeted at ALL status holders. And if you're a frequent spender, but not a frequent flyer, and only fy a few flights a year, even reward flight SC's wouldn't get much past Silver at the most - and short of a high spend ticket(s) even getting there could be a challenge - but it's still aspirational.. and they lose nothing if SC's earned end up conferring no status and just a little to LTSC earn. Again, a win/win.

so I reckon it's more than just the frequent spenders/low flying volume customers that the SC earn is aimed at (plus, to many non status flyers SC's are probably not a factor - as in not a lot of casual flyers may know about what they mean or care - but that is a bit of an assumption I admit).

 

[SYD]

Certainly PC (basic) is a no brainer for QF status PAX sitting on large points balance but otherwise on the status hamster wheel. Breaks that nexus of not flying on points and relying on $!

I love it - especially with the current sky high J fares and I’ve not had major issues burning points on long haul J CRs!

 

[chrispy3276]

FYI bonus points for PC/PC+ members in the Marketplace has just been extended for another 5 months (bringing it to around 14 months in total, may as well just make it permanent!)

6 points per dollar spend for PC members, 9 points per dollar spend for PC+ members until 30 June 2024.

 

[dairyfloss]

As P1, I've never had a direct communication from QF regarding PC or PC+ that links to my status in particular - apart from retaining PC that is - but it's quite separate in my view.

Same here - I've received e-mails on attaining or retaining PC & PC+, but never anything spruiking it, that I can recall.

With business related travel for me drying up during/after the pandemic (all meetings now online), I've had to rework my methods of retaining WP each year on leisure travel alone, and PC+ is not an inconsequential part of that strategy.

Cheers,
Matt.

 

[sudoer]

Same here - I've received e-mails on attaining or retaining PC & PC+, but never anything spruiking it, that I can recall.

In the past year I've received 9 emails from "Qantas Points Club" to let me know not just when retained, but also inform about PC offers like bonus points on flights and wine. I also got a $50 off a flight voucher in September (valid for one week) apparently - first time I've noticed it.

It's certainly not the same frequency of cough I get from QFF (1-2 per day) but there should be a bit more than just the attain/retain emails.

 

[dairyfloss]

In the past year I've received 9 emails from "Qantas Points Club" to let me know not just when retained, but also inform about PC offers like bonus points on flights and wine. I also got a $50 off a flight voucher in September (valid for one week) apparently - first time I've noticed it.

It's certainly not the same frequency of cough I get from QFF (1-2 per day) but there should be a bit more than just the attain/retain emails.

I've had the voucher e-mails, but nothing else aside from attained/retained.
No issue, though; I get my news - with balance - from AFF

 

[MooTime]

My points club progress bar not very accurate.

 

[There'sOnlyOneJimmy]

My points club progress bar not very accurate.

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Although very poorly expressed, is it meant to show that you’ve earned 88k on the path from PC to PC+ (ie. 150k plus another 88k).

 

[RichardMEL]

poorly expressed

Sums up QF in oh so many ways....

 

[MooTime]

Although very poorly expressed, is it meant to show that you’ve earned 88k on the path from PC to PC+ (ie. 150k plus another 88k).

No already am PC+
The bar should be at 88k
Don't believe it should say retain PC, the Retain term should only be at the 350k marker.

If there a soft landing from PC+ to PC even if you don't achieve the 150k?
I don't believe so.