Qatar airways to join Oneworld on 30th October 2013

[drron]

re: [Confirmed] Qatar May be Invited to Join One World

Delta and Alaska also have an announcement scheduled for Monday.

So we can start some new rumours.
1.Delta and Alaska announcing the end of codeshares as Alaska joining OW.
2.Delta and Alaska announcing closer ties and Alaska dropping AA codeshares.

Ah the possibilities!:shock:

PS-on a serious note went to the Alaska website and their FF site is out Friday to Sunday.Seems something happening.
http://www.alaskaair.com/content/tr...es.aspx?lid=home-page:news-advisories::outage

 

[markis10]

re: [Confirmed] Qatar May be Invited to Join One World

So we can start some new rumours.
1.Delta and Alaska announcing the end of codeshares as Alaska joining OW.
2.Delta and Alaska announcing closer ties and Alaska dropping AA codeshares.

Ah the possibilities!:shock:

PS-on a serious note went to the Alaska website and their FF site is out Friday to Sunday.Seems something happening.
Travel Advisories - Alaska Airlines

With both CEOs in town it's significant:

What are Alaska and Delta Up to In Seattle? You Tell Me. | AirlineReporter.com - seattlepi.com

 

[Platinum A332]

re: [Confirmed] Qatar May be Invited to Join One World

1) Delta to buy AA and Alaska Airlines and form a mega mega US airline.
2) The new mega airline to defect from Skyteam to oneworld

 

[futaris]

re: [Confirmed] Qatar May be Invited to Join One World

Upcoming enhancements to the Privilege Club Programme

Dear Esteemed Customer ,Qatar Airways has grown significantly in the last few years; thanks to your continued support. New destinations are being added regularly to our rapidly expanding network to offer our discerning passengers more choice.

In order to keep pace with Qatar Airways' expansion, Privilege Club programme will undergo a few important changes to make it more relevant to our members.


We are delighted to share with you these programme enhancements that will come into effect from 1st November 2012:

We invite you to click here to view more details on all our upcoming changes and take this opportunity to thank you for your continued patronage.

Looks like Qatar are making changes to their frequent flyer programme.

 

[YQY]

re: [Confirmed] Qatar May be Invited to Join One World

Clive "I hate QF" Dormant's (pointless) take on Alliances with references to Qatar --> Airline alliances | Star Alliance | Oneworld | Are they useful?

 

[simongr]

re: [Confirmed] Qatar May be Invited to Join One World

I would like a middle eastern airline to become part of Oneworld so I could go there on my RTW trip

Does RJ not count?

 

[Ansett]

re: [Confirmed] Qatar May be Invited to Join One World

Well Qatar it is then. This makes it interesting with EK and QF

News - oneworld

 

[Oneworldplus2]

re: [Confirmed] Qatar May be Invited to Join One World

Well Qatar it is then. This makes it interesting with EK and QF

News - oneworld

And why I don't trust the Qatar CEO on anything he says....

 

[scaredeycat]

re: [Confirmed] Qatar May be Invited to Join One World

Hooray! But as Ansett has already said, how will this work with Qantas and Emirates? I won't be so impressed if QF plans to leave OW. Surely they couldn't - or maybe the plan is to replace them with J* (God forbid!).

 

[Timba-Jet]

A significant addition for OW. For us QFFers, we now have a choice if both EK and QR, choices choices choices

 

[markis10]

re: [Confirmed] Qatar May be Invited to Join One World

The sandgropers who fly OneWorld will be happy with recent events, a lot more options now!

 

[Nick85]

Finally, all the rumors are confirmed!

Qatar Airways has been elected as a oneworld member designate with an expected implementation time into oneworld of 12-18 months.

Wonder what this will mean for the QF/EK tie-up? Maybe QF intentionally chose Dubai to allow both QR and QF to continue their lucrative Australia-London routes...?
News - oneworld

I’m very happy with the news. I’m moving to Doha next year and was bracing myself to eventually lose my oneworld Emerald status (QF) and jump ship to Qmiles (Qatar’s FF program) – but not anymore!
I think Qatar Airways are fantastic – by far the best long haul business class I’ve ever flown. They have great connections into Europe from Doha too.

http://www.oneworld.com/news-information/oneworldnews/details/?objectID=52692

 

[777]

Re: [Confirmed] Qatar May be Invited to Join One World

I wonder if the ACCC will look negatively on the Emirates Qantas deal as a result of this? This makes Emirates, Malaysia, Cathay Pacific and now Qatar all partners of Qantas directly or indirectly -- will interesting to see the competitive implications.

 

[serfty]

Re: [Confirmed] Qatar May be Invited to Join One World

I doubt that would be an issue, QR have an insignificant footprint in Oz compared to EK.

 

[cmon0005]

Re: [Confirmed] Qatar May be Invited to Join One World

A significant addition for OW. For us QFFers, we now have a choice if both EK and QR, choices choices choices

I see QR as the option to fly and get SC's in the event the QF/EK partnership doesn't offer SC's on EK only flights, at least we will have a regional OW airline to use.
Hopefully this will help QF make up their minds and force the hands so to speak and offer SC's on EK only flights.

 

[beardoc]

Re: [Confirmed] Qatar May be Invited to Join One World

Africa suddenly becomes a great option for an xONEx fare - this is friggin' awesome!

 

[markis10]

Re: [Confirmed] Qatar May be Invited to Join One World

I wonder if the ACCC will look negatively on the Emirates Qantas deal as a result of this? This makes Emirates, Malaysia, Cathay Pacific and now Qatar all partners of Qantas directly or indirectly -- will interesting to see the competitive implications.

Its always worth having a fresh look at the numbers, in July for instance (before Qatar doubles it capacity over summer to Australia), given they are now carrying more traffic than BA I am not sure I would call it insignificant even before the upcoming capacity increase, and the middle eastern carriers are punching above their weight in the freight area:

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[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Inbound[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
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[TD][/TD]
[TD]Outbound[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
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[TD]Scheduled Operator[/TD]
[TD]Country to/from[/TD]
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[TD]Freight[/TD]
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[TD]Passengers[/TD]
[TD]Freight[/TD]
[TD]Mail[/TD]
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[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]British Airways[/TD]
[TD]ALL SERVICES[/TD]
[TD] 10 035[/TD]
[TD] 316.0[/TD]
[TD] 21.6[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD] 7 484[/TD]
[TD] 177.0[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]Cathay Pacific Airways[/TD]
[TD]Hong Kong (SAR)[/TD]
[TD] 70 483[/TD]
[TD] 4 536.6[/TD]
[TD] 196.9[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD] 47 206[/TD]
[TD] 1 975.5[/TD]
[TD] 20.7[/TD]
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[TD]Emirates[/TD]
[TD]ALL SERVICES[/TD]
[TD] 121 571[/TD]
[TD] 5 451.3[/TD]
[TD] 72.9[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD] 92 378[/TD]
[TD] 3 519.4[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
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[TD]Japan Airlines[/TD]
[TD]Japan[/TD]
[TD] 6 687[/TD]
[TD] 319.0[/TD]
[TD] 152.2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD] 4 350[/TD]
[TD] 120.3[/TD]
[TD] 0.0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jetstar[/TD]
[TD]ALL SERVICES[/TD]
[TD] 115 316[/TD]
[TD] 1 200.3[/TD]
[TD] 31.3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD] 104 357[/TD]
[TD] 578.0[/TD]
[TD] 36.1[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]Jetstar Asia[/TD]
[TD]Singapore[/TD]
[TD] 4 488[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD] 4 348[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]LAN Airlines[/TD]
[TD]ALL SERVICES[/TD]
[TD] 4 282[/TD]
[TD] 196.2[/TD]
[TD] 1.2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD] 4 156[/TD]
[TD] 181.2[/TD]
[TD] 4.0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Malaysia Airlines[/TD]
[TD]ALL SERVICES[/TD]
[TD] 55 595[/TD]
[TD] 3 672.7[/TD]
[TD] 21.7[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD] 38 642[/TD]
[TD] 1 237.0[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]Qantas Airways[/TD]
[TD]ALL SERVICES[/TD]
[TD] 242 634[/TD]
[TD] 8 078.0[/TD]
[TD] 627.7[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD] 201 902[/TD]
[TD] 3 642.2[/TD]
[TD] 628.3[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]Qatar Airways[/TD]
[TD]Qatar[/TD]
[TD] 10 603[/TD]
[TD] 460.6[/TD]
[TD] 12.2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD] 7 168[/TD]
[TD] 825.1[/TD]
[TD] 0.0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Total One World[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD] 641 694[/TD]
[TD] 24 231[/TD]
[TD] 1 138[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD] 511 991[/TD]
[TD] 12 256[/TD]
[TD] 689[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Market Segement Share[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]45.50%[/TD]
[TD]51.00%[/TD]
[TD]43.80%[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]43.20%[/TD]
[TD]48.10%[/TD]
[TD]80.30%[/TD]
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[TD]TOTAL[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1 410 088[/TD]
[TD] 47 538.0[/TD]
[TD] 2 598.7[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1 184 819[/TD]
[TD] 25 471.7[/TD]
[TD] 857.6[/TD]
[/TR]
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[browski]

Re: [Confirmed] Qatar May be Invited to Join One World

For Qantas FFlyers, here's a list of (non-QR) Qantas Partner flights from Doha.

British Airways: DOH-Bahrain and DOH-London
Royal Jordanian: DOH-Amman
Sri Lankan Airlines: DOH-Colombo (pending)

Jet Airways: DOH-Delhi DOH-Mumbai and DOH- Kochi
Emirates: DOH-DXB (perhaps)

 

[serfty]

Re: [Confirmed] Qatar May be Invited to Join One World

... I am not sure I would call it insignificant even before the upcoming capacity increase, and the middle eastern carriers are punching above their weight in the freight area:
...

Maybe not insignificant in relation to BA, but in relation to the EK/QF combine EK has ~1100% more inbound, QF has ~2300% more inbound with a combined 3500% more it is insignificant by more than an order of magnitude.

i.e. QR's inbound is 3% that of EK/QF combined.

 

[markis10]

Re: [Confirmed] Qatar May be Invited to Join One World

Maybe not insignificant in relation to BA, but in relation to the EK/QF combine EK has ~1100% more inbound, QF has ~2300% more inbound with a combined 3500% more it is insignificant by more than an order of magnitude.

i.e. QR's inbound is 3% that of EK/QF combined.

Agree, however the fact capacity is being doubled, and One World becomes the dominant carrier in some cities as a result of both changes, I think its a significant factor that could influence the regulators. Qatar alone will soon have a similar number of services monthly to Etihad, making the arguments QF put to the authorities re the hookuo with DJ somewhat redundant regardless of the EK partnership.