QF Double Status Credits (SC) offer for all :)

[mviy]

Let's hope that QF do this again!

I think most of us who wouldn't get a status level without this would agree with that. Though those who would get the status without the bonus credits would be concerned about a potential dilution of benefits, more crowded lounges and more passengers entitled to priority boarding.

 

[wandering_fred]

Well QF got two (cheap) gift vouchers they wouldn't have gotten otherwise. If the vouchers work - fine. If not I will have saved two CC fees.

Happy wandering

Fred

 

[sumthinfornuthin]

I hope so too, but suspect it would be prudent to assess the full effect, which will take quite some time (is it a bring-forward, what are the real impacts on numbers of status pax and effects on lounges etc etc).

I hope they offer a temporary xASA window. But that's wishful thinking.

If the lounges are full Qantas is (hopefully) doing well and the Merry Go Round keeps turning

 

[sumthinfornuthin]

You can be certain the will be further dilution of benefits after this silly exercise. My guess is arrivals access will go and I will be fuming.


Why oh why? So people can go from Silver/Gold to Platinum with a couple of flights? How wonderful.

Not all of us have our fares paid by Business, ( not saying you do )BUT as a private self funded flyer, loyal to Qantas and a WP in the past it is nice to get the opportunity to get a taste of it again after spending a LOT of MY hard earned cash, otherwise it would have been done on points and I still would have accessed the lounge so no real difference in pax load really IMHO but happy to be crucified !

 

[Ric]

The way I read the DSC offer is that you must register and book by the stipulated date and travel occurs at the time period given.

I did not read it as register, book AND ticketed by the stipulated date. So am I correct in assuming that once registered and booked with a PNR allocated, ticketing can be done closer to travel dates?

Cheers!

 

[marki]

If lounges are full people are going to be turned away. Qantas is not going to increase lounge space because more frequent flyers have access. On the contrary. They will do exactly as they have done in the past. Revoke access rights to certain groups.

Looks like in the US of A a certain room has a legal right to 150 people anything over that it's illegal! That will be the excuse run by the powers when there is a huge rush!

 

[Quickstatus]

If lounges are full people are going to be turned away. Qantas is not going to increase lounge space because more frequent flyers have access. On the contrary. They will do exactly as they have done in the past. Revoke access rights to certain groups.

First to be barred will be the guests of SG, WP. Which means the entire group relying on the card carrying member incl the member will not get in

 

[mviy]

My guess is arrivals access will go and I will be fuming.

I hope not. I was hoping to use that occasionally, but probably not very often.

Why oh why? So people can go from Silver/Gold to Platinum with a couple of flights? How wonderful.

It may not be wonderful for you if you already have that status, but for those of us who wouldn't experience being WP otherwise it's a great opportunity.

 

[nlagalle]

If lounges are full people are going to be turned away. Qantas is not going to increase lounge space because more frequent flyers have access. On the contrary. They will do exactly as they have done in the past. Revoke access rights to certain groups.

how often have you seen QF turn people away from lounges? I never have personally..

 

[nlagalle]

You can be certain the will be further dilution of benefits after this silly exercise. My guess is arrivals access will go and I will be fuming.

What makes you think that JohnK? in the scheme of the FF world, this will be a small bump, nothing huge. But i do assume that if this was a silly exercise you didn't take advantage of it?

Why oh why? So people can go from Silver/Gold to Platinum with a couple of flights? How wonderful.

no it encourages people who may have booked with another airline to now book with QF.. it's a win all round.

My guess is there will be no changes to benefits..

 

[Quickstatus]

In the past at some lounges eligible lounge entrants were turned away because the lounge was at licensed capacity. The spurned included WP.

Lounge entry is not guaranteed and will always be at the ultimate discretion of the lounge dragon in charge. Capacity issues included in their algorithm.

I believe if it does happen it will be at the busier hubs at their peak visitation times.

There will also be longer queuing at the lounges for a table.

 

[medhead]

no it encourages people who may have booked with another airline to now book with QF.. it's a win all round.

My guess is there will be no changes to benefits..

Indeed, I booked a number of flights that were going to go to VA with QF for the DSC.

 

[nlagalle]

In the past at some lounges eligible lounge entrants were turned away because the lounge was at licensed capacity. The spurned included WP.

Lounge entry is not guaranteed and will always be at the ultimate discretion of the lounge dragon in charge. Capacity issues included in their algorithm.

I believe if it does happen it will be at the busier hubs at their peak visitation times.

There will also be longer queuing at the lounges for a table.

A busy lounge means the airline is getting bums on seats which means it's revenue is up.

I've been in the SYD J lounge when it was packed due to weather and no one was refused at the door either.. We are talking about extreme cases here..

 

[nlagalle]

I've been in domestic lounges where it has been standing room only. You will turn yourself away.'

Not so close to home we constantly read of issues at LAX and SFO. These are capacity issues caused by swelling status numbers and paid up Qantas club members. Qantas is not going to relent due to higher numbers earning status.

Given QF doesn't have a lounge in SFO that's a moot point - it's a shared lounge and LAX has only just finished being re-done.. so again a moot point.

You can add MNL, BKK, LHR to this list. I have been in the SIN lounge since refurbishments where it has been standing room only.

Closer to home I have been in the SYD F lounge where it was difficult to get a seat. Who do you think will be the first to lose access? Platinums flying JQ, quickly followed by Platinums on non Qantas flights in economy and possibly followed by Platinums on Qantas flights in economy.

you are simply scaremongering JohnK... of course the other result is less people flying so benefits get taken away to reduce costs.. do you want to see that...

I'm assuming you didn't take advantage of the DSC offer given your dislike for it?

 

[Ansett]

With Domestic lounges I have noticed these to be much quieter now with the move of JQ to other terminals. The opening of the Perth J lounge has certainly provided more space and capacity and combined with the down turn in FIFO, I haven't seen a problem.

The only lounge that does seem to be busy permanently and over crowded is BNE where changes and expansions are planned I understand.

I have never been turned away from any lounge nor do I know of anyone that has been.

The LAX issue is a separate issue to WP numbers expansion and is related more so to AA plats than any one else. This again was supposed to be fixed with clarification of entry rules. I have not seen any posts for a very long time where a gold or plat has been refused entry to any lounges in LAX.

Johnk have you never taken advantage of any DSC or other Status promotions to retain or obtain Status levels including LTG achievement?

 

[RichardMEL]

I'm assuming you didn't take advantage of the DSC offer given your dislike for it?

While endlessly telling us how Gold is the new Platinum, or the other way around, JohnK has booked enough DSC flights for 2 years of P1

just kidding.

I think discussions of benefits, lounge issues(potential and current) and so on are a whole different thread really

yes, this is a very generous promotion by QF, and reflects where they are at and with the recent Double Points promo seems to point to what their short-medium term goals/needs are.

As for arrivals access (domestic) for WP/WP1 - honestly I think most people don't use it. I may have used it twice in the last year - one of those due to an early arrival in BNE and I spent maybe 30min in the lounge before train in the city to hotel. Another time was at some place(I forget where, maybe ADL) where I wanted a pit stop and a quick drink before meeting a mate. Most people, myself included, just want to get where we're going (moreso if at home base) so I really don't think that will be a big issue. Moreso the lounges don't appear to record numbers that use arrivals (I've always just been waved through, no card scan for example) so how would they know apart from anecdotal evidence (and I know some people will point to this and say so it's easy to revoke on this basis alone)

the other point about dilution of the elite level crowds, benefits etc is that seems to me every other day someone has posted over the past few years of getting a DSC or +50% SC offer personally. Let's say over the last 18 months 50% of the QFF population may have got these things - and of those a certain number would take advantage - over the entire QFF population, I imagine only a similar number would have used this DSC promo.

My point is that I feel the expected influx of elite-lites is probably not much more than one is currently seeing due to targeted offers.

I'm a self funded flyer 100% I got my first year P1, in part, from a DSC offer then the past 2 years have self funded, and this year (headed into my 4th year) I have 90% self funded, and just added one flight from this promo to get me over the line. very nice, but I probably would have done it anyway - this just means I get there sooner. net change to QF = some extra revenue (but maybe a little less than they might have got, in reality).

there's clearly a reason the bean counters have done this. I suspect they think the week's booking window was short enough to not make a massive number of elites

one also has to remember those NB's and PS's that may have taken this up are, likely, rare flyers anyway so what's it matter if they become Gold or WP but still only fly a few trips a year? Most people's travel patterns are unlikely to change in a huge way as a result of being bumped up a level or two in status. Maybe business swiped from VA (which is good for QF) from some, but otherwise it's probably going to be a smallish ripple in the elite "pond"

my 2 cents.

 

[JohnK]

Johnk have you never taken advantage of any DSC or other Status promotions to retain or obtain Status levels including LTG achievement?

I am earning an additional 80 SCs from this promotion. I think I earned 50 SCs from recent award bookings earning SCs promotion.

Hardly the numbers that are discussed in this thread. People who are 700-800 SCs away from Platinum have booked travel to achieve Platinum. That doesn't ring alarm bells? And we have started seeing trip reports.

Last time Qantas ran a similar promotion we had significant "enhancements" not long after. If you remember we lost arrivals access and it was only reinstated after all the complaints mainly from AFF and other social media. You should remember as you were one of the ones complaining loudly and we were lucky to have you around to complain. This has the potential to cause the same sort of damage although Any sest awards are not around.

My concern is not with the people taking advantage of the promotion. Sites such as AFF are there to share knowledge and exploit every possible way to achieve the best result. My concern is with Qantas and this silly promotion. People shouldn't see my comments as a personal attack.

I remember what happened recently. We have a lot to lose. We won the fight last time. We may not win this time. I don't expect everyone to agree with me.

 

[Anna]

If I was working for QFF I would especially target DSC offers at silvers who might make it to gold with some extra SCs. Once they have tasted gold benefits they're likely to be hooked and want to retain gold or go higher, so they will pay more in future to keep gold. (I'm not saying other tiers shouldn't get offers. I'm saying who I would target most).

For me the DSC offer brought forward a booking I was probably going to make anyway. Actually it was the price of the sale fare more than the DSC offer that made me book.

 

[nlagalle]

I am earning an additional 80 SCs from this promotion. I think I earned 50 SCs from recent award bookings earning SCs promotion.

Hardly the numbers that are discussed in this thread. People who are 700-800 SCs away from Platinum have booked travel to achieve Platinum. That doesn't ring alarm bells? And we have started seeing trip reports.

Last time Qantas ran a similar promotion we had significant "enhancements" not long after. If you remember we lost arrivals access and it was only reinstated after all the complaints mainly from AFF and other social media. You should remember as you were one of the ones complaining loudly and we were lucky to have you around to complain. This has the potential to cause the same sort of damage although Any sest awards are not around.

My concern is not with the people taking advantage of the promotion. Sites such as AFF are there to share knowledge and exploit every possible way to achieve the best result. My concern is with Qantas and this silly promotion. People shouldn't see my comments as a personal attack.

I remember what happened recently. We have a lot to lose. We won the fight last time. We may not win this time. I don't expect everyone to agree with me.

so you are still earning from a promotion.. As for people earning more, well they are also forking out heard earned $$$ and putting bums on seats which is what QF wants.

if it's a "silly" promotion, why did you participate? why do you think it will be the end of the world? what makes you think the other 10.999 million other people will take them up on it? most average flyers will want the double points.. we are talking a very small percentage of the FF pool.

You are really scaremongering.. you seem to think they sky will fall in with this promo (which clearly it won't). life will continue on as it has in the past, you will still be able to access the lounge when you want.. Remember there is still competition out there for QF to deal with and thats a good thing.

 

[nlagalle]

Is that right? I thought I was simply expressing my concerns. Best I stop then.

your concerns have zero basis... there is no correlation between removal of benefits over a promotion run.. you idea that the lounges will be overrun with people are simply wrong. An empty lounge means no one is flying and that is far worse for QF than a lounge that is getting full

As i said if you don't like these offers, then best you make a stand and not accept them.. But you are in the same boat as everyone else who clicked accept and booked some flights. kinda hypocritical don't you think?