QF Double Status Credits (SC) offer for all :)

[wandering_fred]

If I was working for QFF I would especially target DSC offers at silvers who might make it to gold with some extra SCs. Once they have tasted gold benefits they're likely to be hooked and want to retain gold or go higher, so they will pay more in future to keep gold. (I'm not saying other tiers shouldn't get offers. I'm saying who I would target most).
For me the DSC offer brought forward a booking I was probably going to make anyway. Actually it was the price of the sale fare more than the DSC offer that made me book.

Well actually the best incentive to try for (the easier to obtain) QFF SG is the major re-calibration of qualification in both CX and AA. Though with QFF SG the main benefit seems to be lounge access and some extra baggage allowance.

While I am waiting for the final resolution with the AA program, ATM CX Silver seems the best alternative given the international gateway of PER. Double SCs when you don't fly domestic very often is not very useful. QF could change the dynamics of that with more international flights from PER, but I'm not holding my breath.

Happy wandering

Fred

 

[nlagalle]

Is that right again? I know someone who yesterday had different concerns but chose to voice them over a PM. LOL.

I've raised my concerns. Enough on this matter from me.

well that's someone. I don't have any concerns that this will lead to QF "devaluing" status.. the two are not related. as I had said. the subset of people using this promo to attain or retain a status level is small compared to the FF pool. most flyers have no clue about status credits.

But i'll say it again JohnK, if you are so against these promotions then you should be boycotting them rather than being a hypocrite and utilising them..

 

[RichardMEL]

If I was working for QFF I would especially target DSC offers at silvers who might make it to gold with some extra SCs. Once they have tasted gold benefits they're likely to be hooked and want to retain gold or go higher, so they will pay more in future to keep gold. (I'm not saying other tiers shouldn't get offers. I'm saying who I would target most).

Agree totally

This is how QF did it with me. I think I had 2 DSC offers in a row. 1 got me from Silver to Gold, then I made Plat, then I got another one and I pushed it to P1. Untiul now, 3 years later, I've not had any kind of offer - which makes PERFECT sense - QF doesn't need to give me incentive at all.

It may seem that many reported offers in the past have been somewhat random, but I think the thinking, as you suggest, is reasonable enough. Get some more revenue and induce ongoing loyalty(that may otherwise go to VA or to another carrier). Once you have them locked in to the higher level, either they pay up to keep it, or not but the offer has done its job.

if that hypothetical Silver becomes Gold, then in their next membership year flies more then they maybe would have to keep Gold (say flying 650SC worth over maybe 400 SC) then QF has made a good call as the revenue would outweigh the "cost" of the Gold benefits. If pax doesn't fly more, then they still do OK as the cost of that offer goes down relatively with less use of Gold benefits that following membership year. Plus Mrs new-Gold may rave and get others to join up and fly more QF via word of mouth.

 

[RichardMEL]

Those concerned over potential removal of benefits and/or overcrowding of lounges and the like - maybe they can go over to VA where it seems all those new QF elite may be coming from - it may be empty and comfy over there and their benefits may stay the same

maybe

 

[MH_fan]

Whatever the motive behind this DSC promotion, it was a clever move on QF's part: score more early bookings, bait the travellers who are short of reaching a new level, etc. I also think the game plan was also to keep VA at bay. VA are starting to have their new J cabin on the 777s and a DSC offer may just sway someone away from VA back to QF with a now-inferior product across the Pacific and to the Middle East. The DSC promotion travel period ends in April 2017. Guess what? VA should have all their 777s refurbished by September/October. People who could have potentially booked with VA have now booked on QF. Win for QF or VA.

 

[nlagalle]

Good for you. I think they will as this promotion is now out of control.

out of control?? oh please Johnk... how many people do you REALLY think will use this offer to attain a new status level.. i doubt it will be even 1% of the FF pool. Qantas got exactly what they wanted - people making forward bookings.

I'm assuming the next time this happens you will make a stand and NOT utilise it? you seem to be whinging that people have used it as Qantas intended, yet you have used it yourself. Why is it ok for you to utilise this offer but no one else?

 

[JohnK]

Those concerned over potential removal of benefits and/or overcrowding of lounges and the like - maybe they can go over to VA where it seems all those new QF elite may be coming from - it may be empty and comfy over there and their benefits may stay the same

maybe

The grass is definitely not greener on the other side.

 

[Awesom Andy]

I too have seen many times when the dom J lounges and SYD/MEL F lounges at capacity. I don't know the increase in elite numbers due to the promotion, but it's plausible that QF suddenly finds itself in a few months time that the lounges are too packed and some sub groups will need to be kicked out.

 

[mviy]

I will achieve WP this year as a result of this promo, but I may only have a limited amount of international travel next year though having the status and opportunity to use the F Lounge may encourage me to book a bit more international travel than I would have otherwise which is exactly what QANTAS would be hoping that having achieved status I will increase my flying to utilise the benefits doing trips I may not have otherwise done. Could be nice to visit NZ.

 

[RichardMEL]

Good for you. I think they will as this promotion is now out of control.

this promotion is out of use as it's over.

Shall we send you a "Silver is the new Gold" shirt?

 

[RichardMEL]

The grass is definitely not greener on the other side.

well then you're in a bind aren't you?

I hear the Tiger Lounge at MEL T4 is pretty nice. I forget is it Maccas or Red Rooster?

 

[wandering_fred]

this promotion is out of use as it's over.
Shall we send you a "Silver is the new Gold" shirt?

Actually "CX MPC Silver is the new QFF Gold" fits reasonably well for single travelers...
Probably about the same "difficulty" to obtain.

Happy wandering

Fred

 

[mviy]

Whilst I will like having WP generally where possible I would prefer to avoid travelling at peak times domestically and I would think some others who have had some help from this offer to achieve status will feel the same. Though some routes, particularly international don't give you any choice as to when to fly.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

Is that right? I thought I was simply expressing my concerns. Best I stop then.

Once again I am astounded at you. I must go find the quote from a year or two ago where you proudly tell us all that you loiter outside lounge entrances and guest RANDOM STRANGERS into lounges. People with no access that you have never met.

 

[RichardMEL]

OK look I think this discussion offshoot has probably reached it's useful end in terms of overly-statussed and the like.

the real fact is that it's happened. whatever the results are will probably be experienced differently by each of us based on time of day and place etc.

I agree crowding in lounges is chronic. MEL J oN Friday > 4pm can be *insane* so I do avoid it, but it's that way if there's x more WP's or not IMHO.

Anyway I feel the bottom line is it's happened. complaining won't do much about it. I agree with some of the concerns expressed but it seems to me that the double points promo didn't generate enough interest for QF so the DSC offer was an attempt to sweeten that deal.

Guess we'll see what happens.

For now I'd just like to start seeing some reports of people actually having DSC post from flights (so far, none for me 5 days post)

 

[JohnK]

Once again I am astounded at you. I must go find the quote from a year or two ago where you proudly tell us all that you loiter outside lounge entrances and guest RANDOM STRANGERS into lounges. People with no access that you have never met.

I started a thread on the topic a few years ago. There was a recent thread as well. I don't do that now. It sounded like a good idea at the time. But I will guest one of pythonisman's parents into the F lounge in 4 weeks time and I haven't met any of them. Is that OK?

 

[juddles]

I started a thread on the topic a few years ago. There was a recent thread as well. I don't do that now. It sounded like a good idea at the time. But I will guest one of pythonisman's parents into the F lounge in 4 weeks time and I haven't met any of them. Is that OK?

This has gone way off topic. But just to answer IMHO, guesting strangers is a no-no that devalues hard-earned status. But guesting a fellow Aff'er or their parent is OK also IMHO

 

[mviy]

For now I'd just like to start seeing some reports of people actually having DSC post from flights (so far, none for me 5 days post)

Me too. I need my DSCs to post for my first trip booked using the promo within about 5 weeks after I fly that in order to be SG in time for a flight home on another trip I booked a while back (I hope SG helps get me over the line for an upgrade on points to J whether or not I am allowed into the lounge or not without having the card yet).

Anyway soon I will be amongst those daily (or more often) checking their accounts to see if DSCs have posted.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

I started a thread on the topic a few years ago. There was a recent thread as well. I don't do that now. It sounded like a good idea at the time. But I will guest one of pythonisman's parents into the F lounge in 4 weeks time and I haven't met any of them. Is that OK?

Oh you have changed your mind about that, interesting!

I'm with nlagelle, this DSC offer will have next to zero effect on lounges and diluting your status benefits. It's been said time and time again but when someone has to go on a status run with double SC's they dont ACTUALLY fly an awful lot, so even with the new status they still don't fly much so they won't be in lounges very much.

 

[nlagalle]

Oh you have changed your mind about that, interesting!

I'm with nlagelle, this DSC offer will have next to zero effect on lounges and diluting your status benefits. It's been said time and time again but when someone has to go on a status run with double SC's they dont ACTUALLY fly an awful lot, so even with the new status they still don't fly much so they won't be in lounges very much.

and they also then need to fly more to actually keep said status..